SPELLING EDITED V-8. WHAT DOES ROMANS 8:3 TRULY MEAN?
Does Romans 8:3 teach us that Jesus pre-existed in eternity past and God sent down his pre-existing Son down from heaven to become flesh? Let us read Romans 8:3 to refresh our memory.
Romans 8:3.
“For what the law could not do, in that, it was weak through the flesh, God SENDING his OWN SON in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:”
Does the phrase “God SENDING His OWN SON”, mean that God sent His own Son down from heaven? Those who teach the doctrine of the Trinity sometimes use this verse to teach that God the SON came down out of heaven to BECOME FLESH or to take on SINFUL FLESH. Simply think this through for yourself. If the phrase “God SENDING His own Son” must, without fail, mean that God sent His literally already pre-existing Son down from heaven then one must ALSO interpret the rest of this verse to mean that Jesus was BORN with a SINFUL NATURE. For you see, the rest of this verse says that God sent His own Son in the likeness of SINFUL FLESH. And we know that Jesus did NOT have a sinful nature even IF you have been wrongly taught that ALL humans are BORN with a sinful nature. Please read the study “THE FALSE DOCTRINE OF ORIGINAL SIN!” The TRUTH of the matter is that Jesus did not actually take on sinful flesh UNTIL the Son of MAN, Jesus died on the cross and God LAID the sins of us all upon him. So then, the true meaning of this verse in Romans 8:3 is that God sent the Son of MAN to suffer and die on the cross. And Jesus asked God if there was any other way to let that cup of suffering pass from him. Then Jesus, being strengthened by his God and Father said, “Not my will but Your Will be done”. And then it was AFTER the Son of MAN, Jesus, died on the cross as to when God did the sending of the spirit and soul of Jesus down into the belly of the earth for three days and three nights with all our sins laid upon him. For you see, one of the meanings of the word “SEND” is to thrust upon or to lay upon. So then, the true meaning of Romans 8:3 is that God LAID upon His own HUMAN Son, Jesus, the SINS of us all or the SINFUL FLESH of us all to CONDEMN sin in the flesh.
Please read Isaiah 53:4-12.
“Surely he has borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted. 5. But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed. 6. All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD has LAID ON on him the iniquity of us all. (This is when Jesus bore the likeness of SINFUL FLESH. This was when his physical body died and God sent his spirit and soul into the heart of the earth to preach the gospel to the spirits and take back the keys of death) 7. He was oppressed, and he was afflicted, yet he opened not his mouth: he is brought as a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep, before her shearers is dumb, so he opened not his mouth. 8. He was taken from prison and from judgment: and who shall declare his generation? for he was cut off out of the land of the living: for the transgression of my people was he stricken. 9. And he made his grave with the wicked, and with the rich in his death; because he had done no violence, neither was any deceit in his mouth. 10. Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise him; He has put him to grief: when you shall make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in his hand. 11. He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities. 12. Therefore, will I divide him a portion with the great, and he shall divide the spoil with the strong because he has poured out his soul unto death: and he was numbered with the transgressors; and he bare the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors.”
When we see Jesus in the same way that the Apostles of our Lord and Savior saw Jesus, then we will know with certainty that Jesus was born of a virgin and the spoken word of PROPHECY was made FLESH, as in, the spoken word of God was made a little LOWER and inferior to the angels for the suffering of death for all mankind. In other words, in the light of the whole word of God, we see God’s HUMAN Son suffering and dying on the cross for his fellow man. And if you continue reading the studies here at AMatterOfTruth.com then you will see that it was BECAUSE the Son of MAN, Jesus laid down his own life of his own Free Will to suffer and die for his fellow human race as to why His God and Father HIGHLY EXALTED him and gave him a NAME above every other name. Let us read the last three verses of Isaiah chapter 53 again. Isaiah 53:10-12.
“10. Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise him; He has put him to grief: when you shall make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in his hand. 11. He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities. 12. Therefore, will I divide him a portion with the great, and he shall divide the spoil with the strong, because he has poured out his soul unto death: and he was numbered with the transgressors; and he bare the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors.”
The word “THEREFORE” highlighted in green means “for this very REASON”. So then, for what very reason will Yahweh divide to His own Son a portion with the great, and then Jesus will divide the spoil with the strong? That REASON is BECAUSE OF the Son of man, Jesus pouring out his OWN SOUL unto death to bear the sins of the whole world so that WHOSOEVER BELIEVES in him should not perish but have eternal life. Now let us read Philippians 2:8-11 where the Son of MAN, Jesus, is HIGHLY EXALTED because he became obedient to his God and Father even to suffer and die on the cross for the sins of others and not for himself.
Philippians 2:8-11.
“And (Or ALSO) being found in fashion as a MAN, he humbled himself and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross. 9. WHEREFORE (Also meaning for this very REASON. What reason? The very reason of the Son of MAN, Jesus becoming obedient to do all the “WILL” of his God and Father even to lay down his own life to drink the cup of salvation by suffering and dying on the cross for the human race, his fellow man) God also has HIGHLY EXALTED him and has GIVEN him a NAME which is above every name: (This is speaking of Jesus’ NEW NAME that he will be called by in the world to come when he rules FOR Yahweh for 1000 years) 10. THAT (Or so that) AT the NAME of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; 11. And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, TO the glory OF God the Father.”
And we know that in the world to come when Jesus returns that even the angels will bow and worship Jesus as their Lord.
Please read Hebrews 1:1-9.
“God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, 2. Has in these last days spoken unto us by His Son, whom He has appointed HEIR of all things, by whom (Or more precisely FOR whom) also He made the worlds; (Speaking of this present world, as in, God RESTORING the earth that BECAME void and empty because of the WAR between Lucifer and God, the world yet to come, and the New Earth after this present world passes away at the end to the 1000 year reign of Jesus. Clearly, Yahweh Himself is the creator of the worlds and everything that exists. And clearly God appointed His Messiah to be the HEIR of the worlds yet to come. Right now, Satan is the god of this present world, BUT Jesus will INHERIT this present world. The kingdoms of this world will BECOME the Kingdom of our Lord. All the treasures and wealth of the sinners is laid up for the righteous in the world yet to come. Some preachers abuse the Scriptures and claim that the riches of this world belong to Christians NOW but that is not what Proverbs 13:22 and other verses of Scripture teach us. My point right now is that God appointed His Son to be the HEIR of the worlds yet to come and an already pre-existing God the Son who IS the one true God would have already OWNED all things. So to me, Jesus was MADE both Lord and Christ BY his God and Father who ALONE is the ONE true God in ONE PERSON. Jesus was made in the IMAGE of God. Jesus is the HEIR, the one who INHERITS the worlds to come) 3. Who being the brightness of His glory, and the express IMAGE OF of His person, and upholding ALL things by the word of His power, (The English word “THINGS” is NOT in the original Greek text. And the word “ALL” is referring to the ALL of WHOSOEVER believes in Jesus as the atonement for their sins. In other words, Jesus believed the word of his God and Father that if he gave his life on the cross that Yahweh would UPHOLD the ALL of whosoever believes BY the power of His word. The gospel is the POWER of God to whosoever BELIEVES. Jesus BECAME the express IMAGE of God) WHEN he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high; 4. Being MADE so much better than the angels, as he has BY INHERITANCE OBTAINED a more excellent NAME than they. 5. For unto which of the angels said He at any time, You are my Son, THIS DAY have I begotten you? And again, I WILL BE to him a Father, and he SHALL BE to me a Son? (Why would God PROPHESY of a certain day in the future that God would beget Himself a Son if so be His Son already pre-existed in eternity past at His side that He sent down from heaven to become flesh? Can you not see my dear brothers and sisters in our Lord Jesus Christ that all the prophecies of Jesus speak of him being BORN of a virgin FIRST, and then that HUMAN Son would be GIVEN to die on the cross. And THEN in the world to come his NAME would be called the mighty God WHEN the government will be placed upon his shoulders in the world yet to come? It was AFTER the cross that Jesus was GIVEN all power and authority. It was after the cross the Thomas called Jesus by the title my Lord and my God and Acts 2:36 teaches us that Jesus was MADE Lord. Please read the PROPHESY in Isaiah 9:6,7 and notice the ORDER in which the events are prophesied to take place. “For (Order of event #1 that has already been FULFILLED at the virgin birth of Jesus) unto us, a CHILD is BORN, (THEN comes Order of event #2 that has also already been FULFILLED at the cross when the Son of MAN was given to die for our sins) unto us a son is given: (Speaking of the HUMAN Son of MAN, Jesus was given as the ONE sacrifice for the sins of the world) and (And THEN Order of event #3 is YET FUTURE and it is YET TO BE FULFILLED) the government shall be upon his shoulder: and (And THEN will come Order of event #4 is YET FUTURE and it is YET TO BE FULFILLED WHEN the government will be set upon the shoulder of Jesus IN the world to come) his name shall be called Wonderful, Counselor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, (Or more precisely, the Father or the AUTHOR of eternal life, as in, BECAUSE OF Jesus obeying his God and Father's Will, the anointed Son of MAN Jesus made it possible for whosoever believes in him shall be saved. For you see, the Son of MAN, Jesus, was GIVEN the authority and the power to JUDGE and give eternal life to whomsoever he chooses. This is why Psalms 2 prophesies to kiss the feet of God’s Son whom He ordained to be his King of kings and Lord of lords) The Prince of Peace. (And, according to Revelation 1:5, Jesus is our Prince right now standing at the right hand of God. But at his second coming, Jesus will SIT on the right hand of Yahweh to rule and reign FOR Yahweh as the Lord of the Sabbath. And at that time the kingdoms of this present world will become the kingdom of our Lord Jesus Christ. And) 7. Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even forever. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will perform this.” (And did you also notice WHO is PERFORMING His OWN spoken word of PROPHESY? It is Yahweh Himself. Jesus is the WORKMANSHIP OF Yahweh the creator) 6. And again, when He brings in the first begotten into the world, (Speaking of the second coming of Jesus as the King of kings and the Lord of lords to rule FOR Yahweh IN Yahweh’s NAME, the NEW NAME that the Son of MAN, Jesus OBTAINED by INHERITANCE) He says, And let all the angels of God worship him. (Keep in mind that God prophesied all of this to His HUMAN Son whom He made a little LOWER and inferior to the angels. God could have replaced Lucifer with another angel, but in order to clear His name, God chose to create another species of beings called the humans to be inferior to the angelic beings. And when an inferior MAN lived without sin then Yahweh’s name would be cleared. But God also desired to have MANY more sons and daughters to replace the fallen angels. Please read all the studies under the heading >>>WHY ARE WE HERE-IS GOD AT WAR?<<<) 7. And of the angels He said, Who makes his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire. (Speaking of God making the angels to be the ministers to the inferior species of human beings who will be HEIRS of SALVATION if they believe unto the end to be saved. And the angels said what is this human race to You Yahweh and why do You visit the Son of MAN?) 8. But unto the Son He says, Your throne, O God, is forever and ever: a scepter of righteousness is the scepter of your kingdom. 9. You have loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; THEREFORE God, EVEN YOUR God, has anointed you with the oil of gladness above your fellows.”
There are hundreds of verses of Scripture that clearly teach us in SIMPLICITY that Jesus is the FULFILLMENT of God’s spoken word of PROPHECY but yet there is not one single prophecy of a so-called pre-existing God the Son being sent down from heaven to become flesh and yet remain the fully Almighty God having TWO natures at the SAME time, one divine, and one human. The TRUTH of the matter is that there are different Greek words that are translated as “SENT” and each of those Greek words have different meanings, and one of those meanings is “COMMISSIONED”. God “commissioned” the Son of MAN, Jesus, to go into the world, as in, to go OUT into the world to PREACH the gospel of the Kingdom of God as being at hand. The word “commission” means to GIVE authority and power to someone to accomplish the task that he or she is given to accomplish. The Bible calls this commissioning as being ANOINTED. The Son of MAN, Jesus was ANOINTED with the earnest of the Holy Spirit and power. In other words, just like we can do nothing of ourselves to heal people and to live without sin, Jesus could do NOTHING OF himself. Jesus said that it was the Father dwelling IN him who was the one doing the works that men saw Jesus doing. Some of the Jews said that no man can do these things EXCEPT God is WITH him. And that is what the Bible ITSELF teaches us in simplicity. Please read Acts 10:37,38.
“That word, I say, you know, which was published throughout all Judaea, and began from Galilee, AFTER the baptism which John preached; 38. How God ANOINTED Jesus of Nazareth WITH the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; FOR (Or BECAUSE) God was WITH him.”
God was WITH the Son of MAN, Jesus who could do NOTHING OF himself by DWELLING IN the Son of Man. And the SAME God now dwells in us as Christians to empower us to do the SAME works that Jesus did THROUGH the eternal Spirit dwelling in him. Now some Christians will argue and say no, you are wrong about Jesus having only an “earnest” of God’s Holy Spirit because the Bible says that the Spirit was given to him WITHOUT MEASURE. And Colossians 1 says that the FULLNESS of the Godhead dwelt in him. And I say to their argument that ONLY Jesus can live without sin, “WHEN was the Holy Spirit given to Jesus WITHOUT measure?” And WHEN did it please God that the FULLNESS of the Godhead should dwell in him BODILY? Was it at his baptism? Or was it AFTER the cross when Yahweh the Father GLORIFIED the Son of MAN with his own glory to become [a] God to sit on the very right hand of his God and Father? I myself believe that it was AFTER the cross which is WHEN God HIGHLY EXALTED the Son of MAN, Jesus, and gave him a NEW NAME that is ABOVE every other name except for the name Yahweh. Also, the pronoun him is not in the original text so in truth, the Spirit is given without measure to all of us in that we all have the SAME amount of the Holy Spirit. Please read the study “WHAT DOES THE LORD’S NAME IN VAIN MEAN?” And also read the study “HOW YOU CAN LIVE YOUR LIFE FREE FROM SIN!” Below is a complete list of all the studies that I have which show WHY I no longer believe in the doctrine of the Trinity and why I can NEVER believe in the doctrine of Oneness. I assure you that every verse that SEEMS to be saying that Jesus pre-existed in eternity past has another meaning that does NOT contradict any other verses of Scripture in the entire Bible. Thanks for reading and may God bless you richly as you CONTINUE to seek the TRUTH of the WHOLE word of Almighty God.
Your Brother in our Lord Jesus Christ, Brother Mark.
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VERSES USED TO TEACH THAT JESUS PREEXISTED! To me, the best way to know the ONE true God in ONE person is to know who Jesus TRULY IS according to the WHOLE word of Almighty God so please read ALL the studies under the heading >>>WHO IS JESUS ACCORDING TO THE BIBLE?<<< and you will see that the Bible itself teaches us that Jesus was CREATED by his God and Father. And if you have any questions related to the correct meaning of certain verses of Scripture on this subject of who Jesus is please read all the studies under the two headings >>>A LIST OF STUDIES ON THE TRINITY!<<< and >>>VERSES USED TO TEACH THAT JESUS PRE-EXISTED!<<< These two headings have ALL the studies that I have on who Jesus truly is according to what the Bible itself teaches us in simplicity. I compiled these three headings to make it easy for my readers to send just one, two, or three links to those you desire to help understand what the Bible itself teaches concerning who Jesus is in the LIGHT of the WHOLE word of Almighty God. Thanks for reading and may God bless you richly as you continue to seek the truth of the whole word of Almighty God.
Your brother in our Lord Jesus Christ, Brother Mark.
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