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In other words, what does the FULLNESS of the Godhead dwelling in Jesus BODILY truly mean in the LIGHT of the WHOLE word of Almighty God? Does Colossians 2:9 mean that Almighty God the Father manifested Himself to become FLESH? This is how the United Oneness Pentecostal Christians “INTERPRET” Colossians 2:9. And thus, to Oneness Pentecostal Christians, the FULLNESS of the Godhead dwelt in Jesus even in the womb of the Virgin Mary. So then, according to the Oneness doctrine, the FULLNESS of the Godhead dwelt in Jesus from his Virgin Birth forward to this present day and for all eternity future. And, to them, Colossians 2:9 means that Jesus is not just a PART of God, but rather, Jesus is ALL of God or FULLY Almighty God and fully human at the SAME time having TWO natures, one divine, and one human BEGINNING at the Virgin birth. In other words. Oneness Pentecostal Christians believe that from the very moment the word of Prophecy was conceived in the womb of the Virgin Mary, Jesus was brought forth in the PERFECT IMAGE of Almighty God the Father to be fully divine and fully human at the same time. So they believe that Jesus is ONE and the self-same BEING as the Father. Whereas all other Christians believe that Jesus is a distinct SEPARATE person from the Father. BUT, does the TRUE SOUND Biblical meaning of Colossians 2:9 mean that Jesus is one and the self-same BEING as the Father as the Oneness Pentecostal Christians claim? Or is Jesus a separate person from the Father? Let us begin this study in God’s word by reading Colossians 2:6-10 in order to correctly verse 9 by its CONTEXT. Colossians 2:6-10.
“As you have, therefore. received Christ Jesus the Lord, so walk you in him: 7. Rooted and built up in him, and established in the faith, as you have been taught, abounding therein with thanksgiving. 8. Beware lest any man spoils you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and NOT after Christ. (Or NOT after the ANOINTED Son of MAN, Jesus. Christ means ANOINTED) 9. For IN him DWELLS ALL the FULLNESS of the Godhead bodily. (Or in Jesus dwells all the FULLNESS of DEITY bodily) 10. And you are complete in him, which is the HEAD of all principality and power:”
Again, the United Oneness Pentecostal Christians “INTERPRET” this passage of Scripture to mean that the ONE true God in ONE person who alone is the FATHER manifested Himself to become FLESH. And, to them, the FULLNESS of Deity dwelt in Jesus from the very second Jesus was CONCEIVED in the womb of the Virgin Mary. So if you are an Oneness Christian ask yourself the following questions.
#1. Why would the Son of MAN, Jesus, who, according to the Oneness doctrine, was FULLY Almighty God and fully human even in the womb of the Virgin Mary, need to be ANOINTED with the Holy Spirit and power AT his baptism by John the Baptist? Remember that the Oneness doctrine says that ALL the FULLNESS of the Godhead dwelt in Jesus from his Virgin birth, but yet the Bible itself teaches us that Jesus was ANOINTED with the Holy Spirit and POWER at his baptism by John the Baptist.
#2. Why did Jesus say that he was not ALONE and the Father was WITH him if so be Jesus IS the Father Himself? Remember that the Oneness doctrine says that Jesus is ALL of God and NOT just a PART of God or a SEPARATE person from God.
#3. Does the FACT that the FULLNESS of the Godhead dwells IN Jesus PROVE that Jesus IS the Godhead Himself or even a PART of the Godhead as Trinitarian Christians claim?
#4. WHEN did Jesus actually RECEIVE the FULLNESS of the Godhead, according to what the Bible ITSELF teaches us in SIMPLICITY? In other words, did Jesus receive the FULLNESS of the Godhead at his virgin birth, at his baptism, or AFTER the cross and resurrection? To say this another way, WHEN did the FULLNESS of the Godhead BEGIN to dwell in Jesus bodily?
#5. Does the FACT that Jesus is the IMAGE OF the invisible God make Jesus TO BE Almighty God the Father Himself?
#6. How could Jesus speak the WORDS OF the Father and those words he spoke NOT be his OWN words if so be that Jesus IS the Father Himself?
#7. How do Oneness Christians reconcile that FACT that Yahweh the Father is the HEAD of Christ as being THE God OF Jesus whom Almighty God the Father MADE both Lord and Christ after the cross, according to Acts 13:36? The sound Biblical answer to question number ONE.
QUESTION #1 to my Oneness brothers and sisters in the Lord.
#1. Why would the Son of MAN, Jesus, who, according to the Oneness doctrine, was FULLY Almighty God and fully human even in the womb of the Virgin Mary, need to be ANOINTED with the Holy Spirit and power AT his baptism by John the Baptist? Remember that the Oneness doctrine says that ALL the FULLNESS of the Godhead dwelt in Jesus from his Virgin birth, but yet, the Bible itself says that Jesus was ANOINTED with the Holy Spirit and POWER at his baptism by John the Baptist.
You see, according to Act:10:38, Jesus was ANOINTED with the Holy Spirit and POWER at his baptism by John the Baptist. And that is WHEN the EARNEST of the Holy Spirit speaking of a PORTION OF the Holy Spirit of the Godhead began to dwell in the Son of man, Jesus. That is when Yahweh the Father called the Son of man, Jesus, to walk in righteousness. That is when Jesus BEGAN his ministry. That is WHEN Jesus began to tell WHO he was, according to the Bible itself, and NOT according to one’s own “interpretation” of the Scriptures. It was at the BEGINNING of the ministry of Jesus that he told the Jews that he was the MESSIAH called the Christ or the ANOINTED by God, according to Luke 4:1,14-21. And it was this passage of Scripture in Luke 4:1-21 that Jesus was referring to when the Jews asked Jesus WHO are you in John 8:24-30. And Jesus answered their question by saying he is the same person that he told them in the BEGINNING. And AGAIN, Jesus said he was not ALONE and the Father was WITH him.
Please read Acts 10:37,38.
“That word, I say, you know, which was published throughout all Judaea, and BEGAN from Galilee, AFTER the baptism which John preached; 38. How God ANOINTED Jesus of Nazareth WITH the Holy Ghost and WITH POWER: who (Speaking of Jesus the Christ or Jesus the ANOINTED man of God) went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; FOR (Or BECAUSE) God was WITH him.”
This passage of Scripture teaches us no less than two things. First, Jesus was ANOINTED with the “earnest” or a “deposit” of a portion of God’s Holy Spirit AFTER his baptism by John the Baptist and NOT at his Virgin birth as the Oneness doctrine teaches. And number two, Jesus was not ALONE, but rather, Almighty God the Father was WITH the Son of MAN, Jesus by DWELLING IN Jesus through the deposit or the earnest down payment of His Spirit. And that means that Jesus is NOT the Father, but rather, Jesus is a “MANIFESTATION” from or by the Father as opposed to God manifesting Himself to become flesh. For you see, 1 Timothy 3:16 does NOT say that God manifested “HIMSELF” in the flesh, but rather, it says “God” was manifest in the flesh which means that God was CLEARLY SHOWN to be IN the flesh of His human Son, Jesus. In fact, the word “God” is not in the original Greek text in 1 Timothy 3:16. And even if one dogmatically insists that the Greek word “theos” was in the original Greek text, that INTENDED meaning could have been “a” God was manifest in the flesh. God DWELT IN the flesh OF His human Son, Jesus, to GIVE him POWER. Please read the study “WHAT DOES 1 TIMOTHY 3:16 TRULY MEAN?” Now, to my Trinitarian brothers and sisters in our Lord Jesus ANOINTED, just because Jesus is a SEPARATE person FROM the Father does NOT mean that God is a Trinity Godhead. Please understand that the doctrine of the Trinity is NOT SOUND Biblical teaching either. But at the same time, the fact that the doctrine of the Trinity is in error does NOT mean that the doctrine of Oneness is true and without an error. To me, BOTH the Oneness doctrine, AND the doctrine of the Trinity are in error. And if you will be patient, I will show you WHY both have SPOILED and perverted true Christianity with vain deceit and TRADITIONS of men which the CONTEXT of Colossians 2:9 WARNS us to beware.
This brings us to question number TWO.
QUESTION #2 to my Oneness brothers and sister in the Lord.
#2. Why did Jesus say that he was not ALONE and the Father was WITH him if so be Jesus IS the one and the self-same being as the Father? Remember that the Oneness doctrine says that Jesus is ALL of God and NOT just a PART of God.
Since Jesus himself said that he is NOT ALONE and the Father is WITH him, then HOW could Jesus be one and the self-same PERSON or being as the Father. Jesus said that he could do NOTHING OF himself and that it was the Father dwelling in him who did the works. Please read the following verses of Scripture where we see TWO separate persons. We see the ANOINTED Son of MAN, Jesus, as being one person and then we see the Father who bears WITNESS that He Himself has SENT or more precisely COMMISSIONED the Son of MAN by confirming the words of Jesus with SIGNS following. In other words, we ALSO see the Father being WITH Jesus by DWELLING IN Jesus. And it was the Father IN the fully human Son of MAN who actually did the works. So then, the ONLY possible way to be ALONE is for Jesus and the Father to be ONE and the SELF-SAME PERSON or being. But the Bible itself clearly teaches us that Jesus was NOT ALONE and the Father was WITH him.
Please read John 8:16-19,29.
“And yet if I judge, my judgment is true: for I am NOT ALONE, but I AND the Father that sent me. (Or Jesus is saying in the first person, “The one SENDING me out into the world AFTER He ANOINTED me with the earnest deposit of His Holy Spirit and POWER when I was baptized by John the Baptist.” Many verses of Scripture clearly teach us that the Father is IN heaven and ALSO dwelling IN Jesus. Therefore, the phrase “ALL the FULLNESS” of the Godhead can NOT possibly mean Jesus IS the Father. It simply means that an EARNEST of the eternal Holy Spirit which IS the Father because there is only ONE eternal Holy Spirit, dwelt in the Son of MAN, Jesus to EMPOWER Jesus to do the works of healing which he could NOT do OF himself being ALONE) 17. It is also written in your law, that the testimony of TWO men is true. (Or the testimony of TWO PERSONS in true) 18. I am ONE (Or I and ONE PERSON) that bear witness of myself , AND the Father (Which is the SECOND PERSON who is the ONE) that sent me bears witness of me. (Jesus is simply saying that he is not a SELF-appointed Prophet that has come in his OWN name. Many verses of Scripture teach us that Jesus came in the NAME OF Yahweh who alone is the Father) 19. Then said they unto him, Where is your Father? Jesus answered, You neither know me, NOR my Father: if you had known me, you should have known my Father ALSO... ...29. And He that SENT me is WITH me: the Father has NOT left me ALONE; for I always do those things that please Him.”
These are SIMPLE words that are easy to understand by anyone with eyes to see and ears to hear. If you are NOT ALONE then that means that someone ELSE is WITH you. It is impossible to be ALONE when someone ELSE who is WITH you. God is WITH us but that does NOT make us TO BE God. But rather, we are ENDUED with POWER from on high the SAME as Jesus was ANOINTED with the Holy Spirit and POWER, according to Acts 10:38. The only way that Oneness Christians can remain, Oneness believers, is to IGNORE what the Scriptures ACTUALLY teach by their redefining of all of the SIMPLE English words like, “TWO”, “ALSO” “me NOR the Father”, “ALONE”, and “WITH” to mean something DIFFERENT only when they are applied to Jesus. In other words, Oneness Pentecostal Christians are just like Trinitarian Christians that also REDEFINE the word “BEGOTTEN” to mean “NOT begotten” or to be “begotten WITHOUT being begotten” only when the word “begotten” refers to Jesus because they NEED the Son of God to NOT have a BEGINNING. But you see, the word BEGOTTEN does indeed mean having a BEGINNING when “begotten” refers to everyone else. Jesus was NOT ALONE because the PERSON of the Father was WITH the PERSON of Jesus. So how can Oneness Christians continue to argue that Jesus IS the Father HIMSELF and NOT a separate person FROM the Father?
Please read John 16:32.
“Behold, the hour comes, yea has now come, that you shall be scattered, every man to his own, and shall leave me alone: and yet I am NOT ALONE, because the Father is WITH me.”
Jesus is teaching us here that during hard times of persecution it may SEEM that we are all ALONE because even our own brothers and sisters in our Lord Jesus Christ may have LEFT us, but the Holy Spirit dwelling IN us will never LEAVE or forsake us. But the main point right now is that Jesus had ANOTHER PERSON who was WITH him and that OTHER PERSON dwelling IN him was his God, the FATHER. So it is IMPOSSIBLE for Jesus to BE the Father who is a SEPARATE person FROM the Son OF God.
Please read John 14:10,11.
“Believe you not that I am IN the Father and the Father IN me? The WORDS that I speak unto you I speak NOT of myself: but the Father that DWELLS IN me, He does the WORKS. 11. Believe me that I am IN the Father, and the Father IN me: or else believe me for the very WORKS' sake.”
Know you not that WE who believe are also IN the Father and the Father is IN us as well?
Please read 1 John 2:24.
“Let that, therefore, abide IN you, which you have heard from the beginning. If that which you have heard from the beginning shall remain IN you, you also shall continue IN the Son, AND IN the Father.”
In other words, Almighty God the Father dwells IN us. Know you not that you who believe are the TEMPLE OF God and that God DWELLS IN you?
1 Corinthians 3:16.
“Know you not that YOU are the TEMPLE OF God, and that the Spirit of God dwells IN you?”
And Almighty God the Father dwelling IN us through His Holy Spirit does NOT make us TO BE the Father. And Jesus was prophesied in Malachi 3:1 to be the TEMPLE of Yahweh the Father.
Malachi 3:1.
“Behold, I will send my messenger, and he shall prepare the way before me: and the Lord, (Or the RULER or King) whom you seek, shall suddenly come to his temple, (Or more precisely, the ruler whom you seek shall suddenly come, God’s TEMPLE,) even the messenger of the covenant, whom you delight in: behold, he shall come, says the LORD of hosts.”
The Hebrew word translated as “to” in the verse is the Hebrew word “El” which means God. So the correct translation should read “God’s temple”, even the messenger of the covenant shall come suddenly or in a moment and twinkling of an eye to be Lord or ruler during the world to come. The Bible itself clearly teaches us the Almighty God the Father DWELT in the Son of MAN, Jesus. Simple read 1 Corinthians 5:16-21.
2 Corinthians 5:17-21.
“Therefore, if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things have passed away; behold, ALL things have become new. (The word things is not in the original Greek text. The subject in God’s new creation of “new creature” call the “ALL” who have become new) 18. And ALL things are of God, who has reconciled us to Himself by Jesus Christ, and has given to us (The ALL of every new creature, God’s new creation created in His Son Jesus Christ) the ministry of reconciliation; 19. To wit, that God was in Christ, (Or God was dwelling in the Messiah) reconciling the world unto Himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and has committed unto us (The ALL who believe) the word of reconciliation. 20. Now then we are ambassadors FOR Christ, as though God did beseech you by us: we pray you in Christ's stead, be you reconciled to God. 21. For He has made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we (The ALL who believe and NOT all THINGS) might be made the righteousness of God in him.”
And This brings us to question number THREE.
QUESTION #3 to my Oneness brothers and sisters in the Lord.
#3. Does the FACT that the FULLNESS of the Godhead dwells IN Jesus PROVE that Jesus IS the Godhead?
The United Pentecostal Oneness Christians “INTERPRET” the words Jesus being IN the Father and the Father being IN Jesus as meaning the FULLNESS of the Godhead dwelling in Jesus BODILY from the very moment of the Virgin birth of Jesus. Then they INTERPRET the verse of Scripture in Colossians 2:9 as Jesus actually BEING the Godhead Himself who BECAME flesh. But that is NOT what Colossians 2:9 says. It does NOT say that Jesus IS the Godhead. But rather, it says that ALL the FULLNESS OF the Godhead DWELLS IN him BODILY. Well, the promise is ALSO given to us, as believers in Jesus, that WE can receive the FULLNESS of God at the coming of Jesus.
Please read Ephesians 3:19.
“And to know the love of Christ, which passes knowledge, that YOU might be FILLED with ALL the FULLNESS OF God.”
Now, if Jesus being full of all the fullness of the Godhead means that Jesus IS the Godhead Himself, then WE ALSO will be the Father Himself when WE are filled with ALL the FULLNESS of God. Therefore, if Jesus being IN the Father and the Father being IN Jesus makes him TO BE the Father Himself, then we must be consistent in our interpreting Scripture and ALSO conclude that WE being IN God and God IN us makes us BE Almighty God Himself.
Please read 1 John 4:12-15.
“No man has seen God AT ANY TIME. If we love one another, God dwells IN us, and his love is perfected in us. 13. Hereby know we that WE dwell IN Him, AND He IN us, because He has given us of His Spirit. 14. And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent (Or COMMISSIONED) the Son to be the Savior of the world. 15. Whosoever shall confess that Jesus is the SON OF God, God dwells IN him, and he IN God.”
Are YOU a whosoever who BELIEVES? Does God DWELL in YOU and YOU IN God just like this passage of Scripture teaches us in simplicity? Does the FACT that Almighty God the Father dwells in you and you dwell in the Father make YOU TO BE the Father Himself? Absolutely NOT! So then, why do the Oneness Pentecostal Christians dogmatically INSIST that the Father dwelling IN Jesus and Jesus dwelling IN the Father means, without fail, that Jesus IS the Father Himself when it does NOT mean the WE are the Father? Can you not see that it was the “FINGER” of God that dwelt in Jesus during the days of his flesh? Can you not see that the SAME EARNEST of God's Holy Spirit or the finger of God that dwelt in Jesus NOW dwells in us to EMPOWER us to do the SAME WORKS that Jesus did THROUGH the eternal Spirit who dwelt IN him?
This brings us to question number FOUR.
QUESTION #4 to my Oneness brothers and sisters in the Lord.
#4. WHEN did Jesus actually RECEIVE the FULLNESS of the Godhead to DWELL IN him bodily, according to what the Bible ITSELF teaches us in SIMPLICITY?
If we broaden the CONTEXT Colossians 2:9 and we read Colossians 1:12-19, then you can clearly see that it was AFTER the CROSS that it PLEASED Almighty God the Father that the FULLNESS of Deity should DWELL IN the NOW glorified Son of MAN, Jesus, which again was AFTER the cross and resurrection. Please understand that I “deliberately” left out verses 16 and 17 just for the time being. I will explain the TRUE meaning of those two verses right after we read the context of Colossians 2:9 to learn WHEN all the FULLNESS of the Godhead began to dwell in Jesus BODILY to become the express IMAGE of the PERSON of the invisible God.
Please read Colossians 1:12-15,18,19.
“Giving thanks unto the Father, which has made us meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light: 13. Who has delivered us from the power of darkness, and has translated us into the kingdom of His dear Son: 14. IN whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins: 15. Who is the IMAGE OF the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:... ...18 And he is the HEAD of the body, the church: who is the BEGINNING, the FIRSTBORN from the DEAD; that in ALL things he might have the preeminence. (Again, the word “things” is NOT in the original Greek text and the SUBJECT in the CHURCH, his BODY, that Jesus might have preeminence to be the HEAD of ALL of whosoevers BELIEVES. Jesus is the FIRSTBORN from the DEAD to be made in the IMAGE of the invisible God, the FIRSTBORN of every CREATURE) 19. For it PLEASED the Father that IN him should ALL FULLNESS dwell;”
Did we have forgiveness of sin BEFORE the CROSS and resurrection of Jesus? Did we have redemption BEFORE Jesus shed his blood on the cross? NO! Absolutely not! It was AFTER the cross WHEN Jesus became the FIRSTBORN from the DEAD. And THAT is WHEN Jesus BECAME the IMAGE of the invisible God, the FIRSTBORN of every creature FROM the dead to be GIVEN the divine nature of IMMORTALITY. That is WHEN the HUMAN Son of MAN, Jesus, BECAME “hupostasis” which means to be of the SAME SUBSTANCE of the invisible God. Here is how E-Sword defines the Greek word “hupostasis” which is translated as “PERSON” in Hebrews 1:3.
G5287 hupostasis hoop-os'-tas-is From a compound of G5259 and G2476; a setting under (support), that is, (figuratively) concretely essence, or abstractly assurance (objectively or subjectively): - confidence, confident, person, substance.
The word essence means the intrinsic nature or indispensable quality of something, especially something abstract, that determines its character. To my Trinitarian brothers and sisters in our Lord Jesus Christ, please keep in mind that this Greek word ALSO means to be SET under to give ASSURANCE and confidence. In other words, the Son of MAN, Jesus, became a PARTAKER of the divine nature of God AFTER the cross which is when the human Son of God BECAME Deity. For you see, Jesus was GIVEN all power and authority AFTER the cross and resurrection. according to Matthew 28:18. Let us read Hebrews 1:1-9 so that BOTH the United Pentecostal Oneness Christians and the Trinitarian Christians can see WHEN Jesus BECAME a God to be under and subject TO his God. And you will also see that Almighty God the Father BEGAT His Son TWICE. Remember, Jesus said that we must be BORN-AGAIN. And how can you be born a second time if you were never born the FIRST time? Jesus was NOT born THREE times. In other words, Jesus was NOT begotten in the eternity past WITHOUT being begotten and then born-again at his Virgin birth, and then born-again a THIRD time at his resurrection. But rather, Jesus came into existence for the FIRST time by being BORN of the Virgin Mary to become the HUMAN mortal Son of MAN who would be called the Son of God because he has no HUMAN father. And then Jesus was BORN-AGAIN from the DEAD to BECOME God’s, ETERNAL Son. And that is WHEN Jesus BECAME the IMAGE of the invisible God who ALONE is the Father.
Please read Hebrew 1:1-9.
“God, who at sundry times (Or at a little at a time) and in divers manners (Or at a little at a time, here a little and there a little) spoke in time past unto the fathers BY (Or instrumentally through) the prophets, (In others words, Almighty God Yahweh, the Father, did the SPEAKING to the fathers in the Old Testament TIMES by way of the PROPHETS. Almighty God the Father sent His words down to His prophets by way of His angels, and by His voice from heaven. God also gave His prophets visions. And God gave his prophets dreams. Also, God spoke to His prophets through the still small voice of His own self-same Holy Spirit. Notice that there was NO Son doing ANY of the speaking in the Old Testament times. It was the SAME creator God who created the worlds FOR the now highly exalted glorified Son of MAN to inherit who did the SPEAKING whether it was through one of His prophets or one of His angelic beings. In other words, Almighty God Yahweh the FATHER) 2. Has IN THESE LAST DAYS spoken unto us BY (Or instrumentally through or by way of) His Son,(Speaking of the Son of MAN, Jesus, who was also a PROPHET, according to Deuteronomy 18:15, Acts 3:22, and Mark 6:3-5) whom He has APPOINTED HEIR of ALL things, BY (Or for the SAKE OF) whom also He made the worlds; (The worlds here is plural which means many worlds or AGES beginning with the RE-CREATION of the earth after the original earth became void and no longer habitable by the war that Lucifer waged against God to try and take over God's throne. Then there is the world to come called the Millennium or the 1000 year reign of Jesus. And then after the Millennial reign of Jesus will come the AGES to come that we know little to nothing about except for it has not entered the minds of men that which God has prepared for those who LOVE God. Jesus did NOT inherit this present world, but rather, Jesus and us who believe will inherit the worlds or AGES yet TO COME. Please read the studies under the heading >>>WHY ARE WE HERE?-IS GOD AT WAR?<<<) 3. Who being (Or who BECAME) the brightness of His glory, (Jesus was GLORIFIED to RECEIVE Yahweh the Father’s glory AFTER the CROSS. That was WHEN his God and Father HIGHLY EXALTED the Son of MAN, Jesus, the HUMAN Son of God, to become a partaker of the DIVINE NATURE of IMMORTALITY. Please read the three-part study O-14. When did Jesus Become God's Son? Part 1) and the express IMAGE OF His PERSON, and upholding all things by the word of His power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high; (The first thing that I want all my Oneness Christians to see in that one person cannot sit at the right-hand side of himself and the Bible clearly teaches us that the NOW glorified Jesus is at the right-hand SIDE of his God and Father up in heaven. Please look up the following verses of Scripture on your own. Stephen saw TWO separate persons in heaven, according to Acts 7:55-59. John saw TWO separate persons in heaven, according to Revelation 5:1-12. Jesus RECEIVED honor and GLORY after the cross. And Jesus did NOT receive glory and honor from himself, He received glory and honor from his God who alone is the Father. And that is WHEN the Son of MAN, Jesus RECEIVED the “hupostasis” that is translated as “PERSON” here in Hebrews 1:3. Again, this Greek word means the ESSENCE or the SUBSTANCE of God’s NATURE. This Greek word carries the meaning of the CHARACTER of God's nature. And the ONLY place in the Bible where the Bible ITSELF defines DIVINE NATURE is in 2 Peter 1:4 which speaks of Christians being given the promise that WE can become PARTAKERS of the DIVINE NATURE as well. So “divine nature” equates to meaning ETERNAL LIFE or immortality. And Jesus was GIVEN eternal life AFTER the cross, according to John 5:26,27 and Philippians 2:8-11. And that is WHEN the Son of MAN, Jesus, came to be in the FORM of God. Please read the study V-47. Philippians 2:6-8 Proves Jesus Pre-existed!) 4. Being MADE so much BETTER than the ANGELS, as he has BY INHERITANCE OBTAINED a more excellent NAME than they. (Hebrews 2:5-13 teaches us that Jesus was FIRST MADE a little LOWER than the angels and THEN he was CROWNED with GLORY and HONOR after the CROSS. Jesus did NOT MAKE himself, but rather, it was Yahweh the Father who MADE Jesus be BOTH Lord and Christ. Jesus was MADE PERFECT by his God and Father who ALONE is the Father. Jesus is the WORKMANSHIP OF Yahweh the Father who is the ONE true God in ONE PERSON called the FATHER. Jesus is the SON OF the FATHER and NOT the Father Himself. They are TWO SEPARATE persons. The Father has His OWN soul and will, and the Son OF God has his own soul and will. A Christian would have to be BLINDED by Satan to not see that Jesus is a SEPARATE and distinctly DIFFERENT PERSON from the Father, But again, just because Jesus IS a separate person from the Father that does NOT mean that the doctrine of the Trinity is true. Almost all the verses of Scripture speak of only TWO separate persons and NOT THREE separate persons. Please read the study M-5. WHY the HOLY SPIRIT is the FATHER?) Jesus OBTAINED a NEW NAME by inheriting that new name AFTER the CROSS that was BETTER than the ANGELS so that Jesus could JUDGE Satan and the fallen angels) 5. For unto which of the angels said he at any time, You are my Son, THIS DAY have I BEGOTTEN you? And again, I WILL BE to him a Father, and he SHALL BE to me a Son? 6. And again, (Speaking of the second coming of Jesus) WHEN He brings in the FIRST-BEGOTTEN into the world, He said, And let all the angels of God worship him. (The FIRST-BEGOTTEN means the FIRSTBORN from the DEAD to be GIVEN the divine nature of immortality to be MADE PERFECT in the IMAGE of the invisible God. Jesus is the FIRSTBORN among many BRETHREN. And we are being CONFORMED into the IMAGE of god’s dear Son who was the FIRST human being to be MADE PERFECT to become a partaker of the divine “hupostasis” that is translated as “PERSON” here in Hebrews 1:3. And Jesus RECEIVED this honor and glory to NOW exist in the FORM of God after the CROSS. Yahweh never said to any ANGEL at any time, come and sit on MY throne at my right-hand side to be ABOVE all the other angels. Therefore, it is impossible for Jesus to have been the Angel of the LORD in the Old Testament as Trinitarian Christians CLAIM. But rather, Almighty God chose a HUMAN BEING to be highly exalted ABOVE the angels to JUDGE the fallen angels) 7 And of the angels, he said, Who makes his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire. 8, BUT unto the Son He said, (And to WHICH Son did God say) Your throne, O God, is forever and ever: a scepter of righteousness is the scepter of your kingdom. 9. You have loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; THEREFORE, God, even your God, has ANOINTED you with the oil of gladness ABOVE your FELLOWS.”
Jesus was the HUMAN Son of God BEFORE he was MADE both Lord and Christ. So it was to the HUMAN Son that God said THIS DAY have I BEGOTTEN you and said to you come and sit at my right-hand side on MY throne beside me, This HONOR and GLORY I give unto you because you have loved righteousness and you have hated sin. THEREFORE, your God has HIGHLY EXALTED you to receive my divine nature of immortality to JUDGE the fallen angels. That is WHEN Jesus came to exist in the IMAGE OF the invisible God to become the FIRSTBORN of EVERY NEW creation of the church of the FIRSTBORN. Jesus is the BEGINNING of the NEW creation of God which is the CHURCH of the FIRSTBORN, the FIRST begotten Son of God. Please read the study O-13. What does Firstborn of every Creature mean?
This brings us to question number FIVE.
QUESTION #5 to my Oneness brothers and sisters in the Lord.
#5. Does the FACT that Jesus is the IMAGE OF the invisible God make Jesus BE the Father Himself?
I will answer this question with another question. Does the FACT that WE are being conformed into the IMAGE of Jesus make us to BE Jesus?
Please read Romans 8:29.
“For whom He did foreknow, He also did predestinate to be conformed to the IMAGE OF His Son, that he might be the FIRSTBORN among many BRETHREN.”
Now that you understand the TRUE SOUND Biblical meaning of Colossians 2:9 in the LIGHT of the TRUE SOUND Biblical meaning of its CONTEXT in Colossians 1:15-19 we can take a closer look at the two verse that I left out on purpose. The reason that I left out verse 17 and 17 is that I want you to FIRST see that it was the HUMAN Son of God who BECAME the FIRSTBORN of every NEW CREATURE, and NOT that Jesus was begotten in eternity past. And now, after seeing that Jesus is the FIRST human being to be made in the IMAGE of God let us read Colossians 1:16,17 to see the TRUE meaning of these two verses of Scripture.
Colossians 1:16,17.
“For by him (Or in him) were ALL things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: ALL things were created by him, (Or ALL who are created in Jesus were created by God by reason of Jesus) and for him: (God will give the all who believe TO Jesus, but the Greek word also means INTO him. We are created by God IN Jesus or into the body of Jesus, his church to become God’s new creation of new creatures of righteousness/ And Jesus is the BEGINNING of that CREATION of God, the FIRSTBORN from the DEAD to become the FIRSTBORN among many BRETHREN) 17. And he is before ALL things, and by him, ALL things consist.”
When some Christians read these verses OUT of their CONTEXT and they wrongly or incorrectly “INTERPRET” these two verses FIRST, then they will BASE their interpretation of Colossians 1:15 on the INTERPRETATION what they have ALREADY concluded that these two verses in Colossians 1:15,16 mean to THEM. And, when these two verses are taken OUT of the CONTEXT and interpreted ALONE and by themselves APART from the REST of God’s word, then it certainly SEEMS as IF these two verses are saying that Jesus is the CREATED of the entire universe. And IF Christians hold fast to that “INTERPRETATION” of these two verses of Scripture to mean that Jesus is the CREATOR of the entire universe, then they have NO CHOICE but to interpret the REST of the entire Bible based upon their own personal “INTERPRETATION” of these two verses in Colossians 1:16,17 to mean that Jesus is the CREATOR of everything that exists. But what IF that INTERPRETATION of Jesus being the creator of the entire universe and everything that exists is WRONG? What IF Colossians 1:16,17 is actually talking about God's NEW CREATION of righteous people who will INHERIT the world yet to come? Would that not CHANGE our INTERPRETATION of the WHOLE Bible? YES! Absolutely, the CORRECT understanding of Colossians 1:15,16 changes the meaning of Jesus being the creator of the entire universe and everything in the universe to Jesus being the HELPER of his God and Father to MAKE “FALLEN” man in THEIR OWN image. And that is the TRUE meaning of Genesis 1:26. God, working WITH the Son of MAN, Jesus, ANOINTED to make fallen men in their own image. But FIRST, God needed to make the Son of MAN in His EXPRESS IMAGE. According to Hebrews 5:5-10, Jesus was MADE perfect after the cross and resurrection. Let us read Colossians 1:16,17 from the LITERAL translation so that you can see for yourselves that the “English” word “THINGS” is NOT in the original Greek text.
Here is the LITERAL translation of Colossians 1:16,17.
“THAT IN him IS CREATED THE ALL THE IN the heavens and THE on the land THE seen and THE unseen whether thrones or lordships or sovereignties or authorities THE ALL through him and into him has been created.”
So then, the original Greek text does NOT say all THINGS, but rather, it says THE ALL, as in, the ALL of the whosoever who BELIEVE in Jesus to be created by Yahweh the Father IN Jesus Christ as New Creatures. And it is Jesus who will DECIDE what PLACE of AUTHORITY that each NEW CREATURE will receive. There are new creatures created who have DIED in Jesus who are up in heaven that are UNSEEN by us down on the earth. And there are new creatures created in Jesus by God who are on the LAND or on the earth which are seen. There are also DIFFERENT levels of authority here on the earth in this present world within the church body. And there will be different levels of authority in the world yet to come. We will all RULE and REIGNS WITH Jesus, but we will not all be given the same level of authority. Jesus said that he who is faithful over much that he would make faithful over MUCH. But even those faithful or little will be given authority to rule over the mortals down on the surface of the earth in the world to come. And by ruling over I mean that we will be entrusted to watch over and minister to the future heirs of salvation during the world to come.
Luke 19:17.
“And he said unto him, Well, you good servant: because you have been faithful in a very little, have you authority over ten cities.”
This brings us to question number SIX.
QUESTION #6 to my Oneness brothers and sisters in the Lord.
#6. How could Jesus speak the WORDS of the Father and those words that Jesus spoke NOT be his OWN words if so be that Jesus IS the ONE and the selfsame PERSON of the Father?
Please read the following verses of Scripture.
John 7:16-18.
“Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is NOT mine, but His that SENT me. (The Greek word translated as SENT in the past tense in in the aorist actual tense meaning Jesus is actively at that present time was being sent. This means that God was SENDING His ANOINTED Son of MAN from place to place to preach his God and Father's WORD that God put into the mouth of His anointed Prophet, Jesus) 17. If any man will do His will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or whether I speak of myself . (Now, if Jesus INTENDED for his words to mean that he IS the Father Himself then Jesus would have NEVER said these words. In other words, Jesus would have never TAUGHT that the teachings he taught was NOT his OWN teaching, but rather, it was God’s doctrines that Almighty God who ALONE is the Father TAUGHT to Jesus to teach to us. And if you do NOT believe the words of Jesus then it is the SAME as saying you do not believe the words of Yahweh the Father Himself. Jesus is a “PROPHET” of God just the same as he is also the MESSIAH ordained by God) 18. He that speaks of himself seeks his own glory: but he that seeks His glory that SENT him, the same is true, and no unrighteousness is in him.”
Jesus came to show us the Father and not to show us that the SON OF God is the Father Himself. Now let us read John 8:23-30 which is interpreted by Trinitarian Christians that a pre-existing God the Son came down from heaven above and incarnated himself to become flesh. And it is interpreted by Oneness Pentecostal Christians that Almighty God the Father manifested HIMSELF to become flesh.
John 8:23-30.
“And he said unto them, You are from beneath; I am from above: you are of this world; I am not of this world. (This does NOT mean that God the Father sent down God the Son from heaven above to incarnate himself to become flesh. For you see, Jesus says the same thing about us who BELIEVE in John 17:14-26. NOR does in mean that Almighty God the Father MANIFESTED HIMSELF to become flesh to conclude that Jesus IS the Father Himself in the flesh. For you see, in John 17: Jesus said the WE are NOT OF this world even AS Jesus is NOT OF this world. So then, in truth, this verse means that Jesus had the authority given from above to be called the SON OF God. And now, we who believe in Jesus have been given the authority or the right to be called the sons and daughters of God. Please read the study C-2. ARE ALL PEOPLE THE CHILDREN OF GOD?) 24. I said, therefore, unto you that you shall die in your sins: for if you believe NOT that I am he, you shall die in your sins. (BOTH Oneness Christians and Trinitarian Christians “INTERPRET” this verse to mean that Jesus is saying that he is the great I AM THAT I AM which they THINK is God’s NAME based on Exodus 3:14. But God’s NAME is found in the NEXT verse in Exodus 3:15. Jesus is simply saying that if we do NOT believe that he is the one PROPHESIED in the Scripture to come, speaking of Jesus as being the MESSIAH, then we will remain dead in our sins) 25. Then said they unto him, Who are you? And Jesus said unto them, (Or Jesus ANSWERED their question WHO ARE YOU?) Even the SAME that I SAID unto you from the BEGINNING. (And at the very beginning of the MINISTRY of Jesus, he read from the book of Isaiah and said THIS SCRIPTURE is FULFILLED in your ears. So from the very beginning of his ministry, Jesus has said that he is the MESSIAH the ANOINTED of God whom the SCRIPTURES testify or speak of coming) 26. I have many things to say and to judge of you: but He that SENT me is true; and I speak to the world those things which I have HEARD OF Him. 27. They understood not that he spoke to them of the Father. (Now, Oneness Christians “INTERPRET” this verse to mean that Jesus is saying that he himself IS the Father. But that is NOT what Jesus is saying. Jesus is simply saying that the WORDS he spoke are NOT his OWN words and what he HEARD the Father speak in the PROPHET’S ear then that PROPHET spoke the WORDS of HIM that SENT him) 28. Then said Jesus unto them, When you have lifted up the Son of man, (And NOT when you have lifted up God the Son, the so-called second person of a Godhead Trinity God. And NOT when you have crucified Almighty God, your creator. But RATHER, when you have crucified the ANOINTED Prophet of God, the Son of MAN, your MESSIAH, the one PROPHESIED to come) then shall you know that I am he and that I do NOTHING OF myself; but as my Father has TAUGHT me, I SPEAK these things. 29. And He that SENT me is WITH me: the Father has NOT left me ALONE; for I always do those things that please Him. (And since Jesus was NOT ALONE and the father was WITH His Son than that means there are TWO SEPARATE PERSONS and not ONE person as the Oneness doctrine CLAIMS) 30. As he spoke these words, many BELIEVED on him.”
For you see THESE words make perfect sense. No Jesus would ever believe that a MAN is Almighty God the Father, the creator. The Jews finally understood that Jesus was saying that he is the MESSIAH, the one prophesied in the Scripture to come. You may have heard the Oneness and Trinitarian argument that the Jews knew perfectly well that Jesus was saying he is Yahweh Himself and that is why they took up stones to stone him. So WHY did the Jews NOT pick up stones to stone Jesus THIS time if Jesus intended his words to mean that he is Yahweh Himself, the great I AM THAT I AM? Let us continue reading the Scriptures where Jesus says that the words he spoke are NOT his OWN words, but rather, they are the words of Almighty God the FATHER.
John 12: 47-50.
“And if any man hears my words, and believes not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world. 48. He that rejects me, and receives not my words, has one that judges him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day. 49. For I have NOT spoken of myself; but the Father which SENT me, He GAVE me a commandment, WHAT I should SAY, and what I should SPEAK. 50. And I know that His commandment is life everlasting: whatsoever I speak, THEREFORE, even as the Father SAID unto me, so I speak.
Clearly, Jesus is identifying the Father as someone ELSE other than the Son OF Almighty God the Father. Jesus was COMMANDED by the Father WHAT to say and speak. Jesus was SENT by the Father. Jesus prayed TO the Father. Jesus had his OWN WILL but he OBEYED his God and Father’s WILL over his OWN WILL. Please read the study N-11. 37 Facts to Ponder about Jesus being GOD!
Please read John 14:8-24.
“Philip said unto him, Lord, show us the Father, and it suffices us. (And in John 17:1-3 Jesus clearly identified the ONLY TRUE God as being the FATHER and himself as the one being SENT BY the Father) 9. Jesus said unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet have you not known ME, Philip? (Have you not been an eyewitness to all the WORKS you have seen me do?) He that has seen ME has seen the Father; and how say you then, Show us the Father? (Oneness Christians “INTERPRET” these words of Jesus to mean that Jesus is saying that he himself IS the Father. But what Jesus is actually saying that EVERYTHING thing Jesus TAUGHT was the teaching FROM the father and NOT his OWN teaching. And EVERY might WORK of healing is the FATHER doing those WORK because Jesus could do NOTHING OF himself. So Philip, how can you say, SHOW us the father when I HAVE ALREADY been SHOWING you the Father by teaching you HIS teaching and SHOWING you his good character by the WORKS the HE is doing through me?) 10. Believe you NOT that I am in the Father and the Father IN me? (Believe you NOT that) the words that I speak unto you I speak NOT of myself BUT the Father that dwells IN me, He does the WORKS? 11. BELIEVE me (Philip) that I am in the Father, and the Father in me (The SAME as the Father WILL be IN you and you IN him) or else BELIEVE me for the very WORKS' sake. (Do you think for one minute that I do these wonderful WORKS of healing the sick and casting out devils of MYSELF? How can you say SHOW me the Father when you have SEEN the WORKS of the Father in ME?) 12. Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believes on me, the WORKS that I do shall he do ALSO; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father. (HOW could Jesus go TO the Father if so be that ALL the FULLNESS of the Godhead in Colossians 2:9 means that Jesus is ALL of the God and NOT just a PART of God? As you have seen in this in-depth study in God’s word, Colossians 2:9 does NOT say that Jesus IS the Godhead but rather that ALL the FULLNESS OF the Godhead DWELLS in Jesus BODILY. And we have learned from the CONTEXT that Jesus RECEIVED all the FULLNESS of the Godhead AFTER the CROSS. That is WHEN Jesus was GIVEN all power and authority. That is WHEN Thomas called him my Lord and my God. Jesus BECAME “A” God under and subject TO his God and Father to rule FOR Yahweh DURING the world to come for 1000 years. The word God is a TITLE so Jesus being CALLED God does not mean that Jesus is the ONE TRUE and ONLY Almighty God who alone is the FATHER. Jesus was SET to be God's King of kings and Lord of Lords after the cross so that God could JUDGE the world BY the MAN who He ordained and raised from the dead. Please read the studies under the subject heading >>>Q-0. WHY are we HERE?-Is God at WAR?<<<) 13. And whatsoever you shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified IN the Son. 14. If ye shall ask anything in my name, I will do it. 15. If you love me, keep my commandments. (Speaking of the commandment under the NEW COVENANT written in the New Testament) 16. And I will pray to the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you forever; (NOT a THIRD person of the Trinity but the SAME eternal Spirit of the Father who dwelt IN Jesus) 17. Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it sees him not, neither knows him: but you know him; for he dwells with you, and shall be IN you. 18. I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you. (Meaning that Jesus will teach us THROUGH the eternal Spirit dwelling IN us) 19. Yet a little while, and the world sees me no more; but you see me: because I live, you shall live also. 20. At that day you shall know that I am in my Father, and you in me, and I in you. (Speaking of the day of Pentecost when the same earnest of the Holy Spirit who dwelt in Jesus began to dwell is Christians) 21. He that has my commandments and keeps them, he it is that loves me: and he that loves me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him and will manifest myself to him. (Or make myself KNOWN to those who love Jesus) 22. Judas said unto him, not Iscariot, Lord, how is it that you will manifest yourself unto us, and not unto the world? 23. Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man loves me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and WE will come unto him, and make our abode with him. (This means that the ONE eternal Spirit dwells IN us and believers and BOTH the Father AND His Son SPEAK to us THROUGH the EARNEST of the Holy Spirit dwelling in us. Sometimes we hear the voice of the Father speaking of His SON and at other times we hear the voice of Jesus speaking to us of the FATHER) 24. He that loves me NOT keeps NOT my sayings: and the word which you hear is NOT MINE, but the Father's which SENT me.”
And just because the words of a PROPHET are the words of Almighty God the Father does NOT mean that the PROPHET IS God Himself. Jesus is NOT that Father and the Father is NOT Jesus. The Father MANIFESTED Himself a TRUE SON and NOT just an EMPTY BODY that ALL the FULLNESS of the Godhead DWELT in. I have one more passage of Scripture that I want to make sure that you read and truly UNDERSTAND. For you see, both Oneness Christians and Trinitarian Christians quote and FOCUS all their attention on certain select verses that SEEM to support their doctrines. But yet many of their INTERPRETATIONS are in error. For you see, Jesus said the WE will be ONE with Jesus and the Father EVEN AS Jesus and the Father are ONE. So the INTERPRETATION of Jesus being ONE with the Father as meaning that Jesus IS Yahweh Himself is NOT a correct interpretation because that would mean that WE will BE Yahweh in the world to come. Jesus being from ABOVE does NOT mean that Jesus came down from Heaven to become a man because Jesus said that WE are from ABOVE in the SAME WAY that Jesus is from ABOVE.
Please read John 17:6-26.
“I have manifested YOUR name unto the men which YOU gave me out of the world: YOURS they were, and YOU gave them me, and they have kept YOUR word. 7. Now they have known that all things whatsoever YOU have GIVEN me are of YOU. 8. For I have given unto them the words which YOU gave me, and they have received them, and have known surely that I came out from thee, and they have believed that YOU did SEND me. 9. I pray for them: I pray not for the world, but for them which YOU have given me; for they are YOURS. 10. And all mine are yours, and yours are mine, and I am glorified in them. 11. And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come TO YOU. Holy Father, keep through YOUR OWN name those whom YOU hast given me, that THEY may be ONE, AS WE ARE. 12. While I was with them in the world, I kept them in YOUR name: those that YOU gavest me I have kept, and none of them is lost, but the son of perdition; that the Scripture might be fulfilled. 13. And now come I TO YOU; and these things I speak in the world, that they might have my joy fulfilled in themselves. 14. I have given them YOUR word; and the world has hated them because THEY are NOT of the world, EVEN AS I am NOT of the world. 15. I pray not that YOU should take them out of the world, but that YOU should keep them from the evil. 16. THEY are NOT of the world, EVEN AS I am NOT of the world. 17. Sanctify them through YOUR truth: YOUR word is truth. 18. AS YOU have SENT ME into the world, EVEN SO have I also SENT them into the world. (Jesus said WAIT until you are ENDUED with POWER from on high before you go out and witness to the world about Jesus. And Yahweh the Father ANOINTED Jesus with the Holy Spirit and POWER before the father SENT the Son of MAN, Jesus into the world) 19. And for their sakes, I sanctify myself, that they also might be sanctified through the truth. (Meaning that Jesus OVERCAME SIN to offer up himself WITHOUT SPOT or blemish. And Jesus overcame sin THROUGH the POWER of the eternal Spirit DWELLING IN him. Please read the study F-12. How YOU can live YOUR LIFE FREE from SIN!) 20. Neither do I pray for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word; 21. That THEY ALL may be ONE; AS YOU, Father, are IN me, and I IN YOU, that THEY ALSO may be ONE IN us: that the world may believe that YOU have SENT me. 22. And the GLORY which YOU gave me I have given them; (Or I have PROMISED to them who endure unto the end to be saved) that THEY may be ONE, EVEN AS WE ARE ONE: (Keep in mind that God MADE Jesus Lord AFTER the cross and resurrection, according to Acts 2:36 and many other verses of Scripture. So the human Son of God was GIVEN the divine NATURE of immortality after the cross and resurrection to BECOME in the FORM of God) 23 I IN them, and YOU IN me, that they may be made perfect in ONE; and that the world may know that YOU have SENT me, and have loved THEM, AS YOU have loved ME. 24. Father, I will that they also, whom YOU have given me, be WITH me where I am; that they may behold my GLORY, which YOU have GIVEN me: for YOU loved me before the foundation of the world. (Meaning that in the MIND and PLAN of Yahweh God LOVED all his SAINTS) 25. O righteous Father, the world has not known you: but I have known you, and these have known that you have SENT ME. 26. And I have DECLARED unto them YOUR NAME, and will declare it: (Speaking of in the world yet to come) that the love wherewith thou hast loved me may be in them, and I in them.”
Revelation 1:1.
“The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to show unto his servants the things which must shortly come to pass; and He sent and signified it by His angel (Or by His messenger, the NOW glorified Son of MAN, Jesus) unto his servant John:”
This brings us to question number SEVEN.
QUESTION #7 to my Oneness brothers and sisters in the Lord.
#7. How do Oneness Christians reconcile that FACT that Yahweh the Father is the HEAD of Christ as being the God OF Jesus?
1 Corinthians 11:1-3
“Be you, followers of me, even as I also am of Christ. (It is alright to follow the teaching of men so long as those teachings AGREE with the teaching of Jesus and his Apostles. It is WHEN Christians put the teaching of their Pastor or their church denomination ABOVE what the Bible ITSELF teaches that cause the CONTROVERSIES among Christians) 2. Now I praise you, brethren, that you remember me in all things, and keep the ordinances, as I delivered them to you. 3. But I would have you know, that the HEAD of every man is Christ; and the HEAD of the woman is the man, and the HEAD of Christ is God.”
Now how can the Father be the HEAD over the Father? How can God be the HEAD over God IF Jesus IS the ALMIGHTY God Himself? It makes no sense to say that Almighty God is the HEAD of Almighty God. The Bible teaches us that Yahweh the Father is the God OF Gods. In other words, the word “God” is a TITLE just like the word “King” is a “TITLE”. So in SIMPLICITY, there is only one God who alone is the ALMIGHTY God who is over and above ALL other Gods that He Himself MADE to be Lord and God to rule over or to be TENANTS over different parts of His creation. And Jesus is the first human to be made Lord. And we who are faithful will be made lords to rule and reign WITH our Lord Jesus during the world to come. How can Jesus have the Father to be OVER him if Jesus IS the Father Himself? I agree that the ONLY true God is ONE God in ONE person. I do NOT believe in the doctrine of the Trinity. But rather, I believe the BIBLE itself, which CLEARLY teaches us that Jesus is a SEPARATE distinctly DIFFERENT PERSON from the Father. The one TRUE God can NOT have another God OVER and ABOVE him and Jesus has the Father OVER and ABOVE him. God is the HEAD of Christ in the same way that Jesus is the HEAD over us. The Father is the GOD OF Jesus. The Father is GREATER than Jesus. How can the Father be the Father of Himself and REMAIN ONE PERSON? That is impossible! Yes, God can MANIFEST a Son by prophesying a Son into existence, but the Son is NOT the SAME PERSON as the Father.
John 10:30.
“I and my Father ARE one.”
The verb “ARE” is PLURAL and it means WE are one. And the pronoun WE always means MORE than just ONE person. So while it is true that the ONE true God is ONE God in ONE PERSON it is NOT true that Jesus IS that ONE person. Jesus is the SON OF that ONE person who ALONE is the FATHER. There are some 31,000 verses of Scripture and only ONE of those 31,000 verses directly CALL Jesus by the TITLE of “a” father. Please read the study W-11. Isaiah 9:6 The Everlasting Father! Below is a complete list of ALL the studies that I have which show WHY I no longer believe in the doctrine of the Trinity and why I can NEVER believe in the doctrine of Oneness. I assure you that every verse that SEEMS to be saying that Jesus pre-existed in the eternity past has another meaning that does NOT contradict any other verses of Scripture in the entire Bible. Thanks for reading, and may God bless you richly as you continue to seek the TRUTH of the WHOLE word of Almighty God. And to me, the truth concerning who Jesus TRULY is, according to the Bible ITSELF, is the Biblical Unitarian view of Jesus. So, for ALL of the studies on the Biblical Unitarian view of Jesus, please click on the subject heading >>>D-0. THE BIBLICAL UNITARIAN VIEW of JESUS!<<< And for the SUBJECT on the true foundation of the church, please click on the subject heading >>>C-0. THE TRUE FOUNDATION OF THE CHURCH!<<< This way you can just send ONE link to those who you want to share the TRUE sound Biblical FOUNDATIONAL teachings of the church that Jesus and his Apostles taught in the first century church.
Your brother in our Lord Jesus Christ, Brother Mark.
My heartfelt prayer is that all Christians RETURN to the TRUE FOUNDATION of the church that is taught by the very Apostles of Jesus in the first century. So let us all come into the UNITY of the faith and return to what Jesus and his Apostles taught us in SIMPLICITY in the New Testament.
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VERSES USED TO TEACH THAT JESUS PREEXISTED!
To me, the best way to know the ONE true God in ONE person is to know who Jesus TRULY is according to the WHOLE word of Almighty God. So please read ALL of the studies under the heading >>>N-0. WHO is JESUS ACCORDING to the BIBLE?<<< and you will see that the Bible itself teaches us that Jesus was CREATED by his God and Father. And if you have any questions related to the correct meaning of certain verses of Scripture on this subject of who Jesus is please read all the studies under the two headings >>>U-0. VERSES used for THE TRINITY!<<< and >>>V-0. VERSES used to TEACH that Jesus PRE-EXISTED!<<< These two headings have ALL of the studies that I have on who Jesus truly is according to what the Bible itself teaches us in simplicity. I compiled these three headings to make it easy for my readers to send just one, two, or three links to those you desire to help understand what the Bible itself teaches concerning who Jesus is in the LIGHT of the WHOLE word of Almighty God. If you have any questions, please feel free to write to me. My contact email is MarkatAMatterOfTruth@Gmail .com. Thanks again for reading and may God bless you richly as you continue to seek the truth of the whole word of Almighty God.
Your Brother in our Lord Jesus Christ, Brother Mark.
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