WHAT DOES 1 CORINTHIANS 10:4 TRULY MEAN?

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WHAT DOES 1 CORINTHIANS 10:4 TRULY MEAN?

 

Some Christians dogmatically teach that, without fail, Jesus PRE-EXISTED as God the Son, the second person of the Trinity. Other Christians teach that Jesus pre-existed as a separate dive being who was with God at his side named the Word. But this other divine being named the word was not yet God’s Son. The Jehovah's Witness Christians teach that Jesus PRE-EXISTED as an ANGEL, namely Michael the archangel, who then became the Son of MAN and the Son of Almighty God the Father. And yet the Mormon Christians teach that Jesus PRE-EXISTED as a SPIRIT being alongside or WITH Almighty God as the Word who was God’s “spirit” child. And the only Christians who do NOT believe that Jesus literally pre-existed as a separate divine being who was with God in eternity past are the Oneness Pentecostal Christians and the Biblical Unitarian Christians.

 

But what does the WHOLE word of God teach us?

 

Let us begin this study in God's word by reading the 1 Corinthians 10:4 to refresh our memory as to what it says.

 

1 Corinthians 10:4.

 

“And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ.”

 

The argument for literal pre-existence is that the spiritual rock is read about in the Old Testament BEFORE the virgin birth of Jesus. And since Paul says that THAT Rock WAS Christ then that proves that Jesus pre-existed in eternity past because the only way for Jesus to MANIFEST himself in the Old Testament as that spiritual Rock is for him to have literally EXISTED during the Old Testament times.

First of all, the Rock did NOT literally FOLLOW them. The English word “THEM’ is not in the original Hebrew text. And the word translated as “FOLLOWED” LITERALLY means to learn as a disciple or follower of a teacher. So what the original text is communicating to us is that they were to LEARN from their DRINKING of the lateral water from that literal rock the SPIRITUAL lesson of that SPIRITUAL rock that Yahweh will PROVIDE for them. In other words, they literally drank literal water from a literal rock to quench their literal thirst and the spiritual lesson that they were to learn is that God did not deliver them from the bondage of Egypt to die and that He will provide their needs

And the LESSON that we are to learn from this Old Testament FIGURE is that Almighty God the Father PROVIDED the deliverance from bondage by way of His SERVANT Moses. And the analogy is that Yahweh the Father PROVIDED His Messiah Jesus to deliver us from the bondage of SIN. God provided the children of Israel with food and water while they were in the wilderness traveling TO the PROMISED land. By the Hand of Moses, the literal rock was split open and literal water ran out. And all who were thirsty drank from the literal water that came out of the rock by the hand of Moses. And the analogy is that by the hand of Jesus the SPIRITUAL Rock was split over so that the Holy Spirit could be poured out upon all flesh. So to ME, Paul is NOT saying that Jesus was that literal Rock in the Old Testament. NOR is Paul saying that Jesus MANIFESTED himself to become that literal rock in the Old Testament. Pauls was simply giving us an ANALOGY between the water flowing out of the literal rock and Jesus baptizing believers in the Holy Spirit.

Now some Trinitarian Christians interpret this verse to dogmatically mean, without fail, that Jesus PRE-EXISTED in the Old Testament. They argue that Paul clearly identifies the rock that Moses smote or hit with a stick in the wilderness as BEING CHRIST. They argue that Paul plainly says, “and THAT Rock WAS Christ”. And then they argue that Jesus IS THE ALMIGHTY God HIMSELF because they take other Old Testament verses which clearly and plainly teach us that Almighty God Yahweh Himself is the ROCK. And thus, they conclude that since Paul says Jesus is the Rock and this other verse says that Almighty God is the ROCK, then that proves that Jesus must, without fail, be THE ALMIGHTY God HIMSELF as God the Son, the second person of the Godhead Trinity.

 

But again is this SOUND BIBLICAL teaching based upon the WHOLE word of Almighty God?

 

As I have said many times that any verse when taken out of context and viewed alone and apart from the whole word of God may SEEM to be saying something that it is not truly saying. So then, let us read this verse in question being left in the context of where it is found. 

 

Please read 1 Corinthians 10:1-11.

 

“Moreover, brethren, I would not that you should be ignorant, how that all our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea;

2. And were all baptized unto Moses (Some Bible scholars teach that Moses was a type or figure of Jesus Christ and that we as Christians are baptized in Jesus as the people of Israel were baptized unto Moses) in the cloud and in the sea;

3. And did all eat the same SPIRITUAL meat;

4. And did all drink the same SPIRITUAL drink: FOR (Or BECAUSE) they drank of that SPIRITUAL Rock (Now, the actual rock that Paul is talking about was a LITERAL rock. So Paul is teaching us a SPIRITUAL lesson from these LITERAL things that happened and were written in the Old Testament) that followed them: and that Rock was CHRIST (Speaking of that SPIRITUAL LESSON from that LITERAL rock they were to learn the spiritual lesson that God is WITH them. One meaning of the word “CHRIST” is the ANOINTING of Almighty God or more specifically the ETERNAL Holy Spirit who DWELT IN Jesus, the SON OF Almighty God the Father. Whenever you read the word “CHRIST” do not automatically substitute the name Jesus for the word “CHRIST”, because the word Christ is not Jesus' last name. But rather, this word means that Jesus is the chosen one whom Almighty God the Father DWELT IN to empower the Son of MAN to do the works that Yahweh sent His Son to do. Please read the study JESUS THE CHRIST for a deeper understanding of what I mean by this.

Another meaning for the word “CHRIST” is MESSIAH, the deliverer, or the savior. And certainly, THAT ROCK in the Old Testament was used by Almighty God to SAVE the people of Israel from physical death by literally dying from thirst. They were in a desert. So again, Paul is teaching us a SPIRITUAL lesson or using an ANALOGY. Paul is not actually saying that Jesus is a LITERALLY ROCK. Keep reading the CONTEXT and you will see that I am teaching you the TRUTH)

5. But with many of them God was not well pleased: for they were overthrown in the wilderness.

6. Now, these things were OUR EXAMPLES, to the intent we should not lust after evil things, as they also lusted.

7. Neither be you, idolaters, as were some of them; as it is written, The people sat down to eat and drink and rose up to play. (Some Christians are faithful to attend church every Sunday to feast on God’s word but then through the week they walk so close to the world that you can hardly tell that they are Christians. And that is what Paul is teaching us NOT to do. Do NOT be like the Children of Israel who enjoyed God’s provision of food and water and then not obey his Son, Jesus)

8. Neither let us commit fornication, as some of them committed, and fell in one day three and twenty thousand.

9. Neither let us tempt CHRIST (Speaking of the ANOINTING or more precisely, the ETERNAL SPIRIT, who DWELT IN Jesus the SON OF Almighty God and Father and NOW DWELLS IN us as believers in Jesus. You see, the truth of the matter is that Almighty God the eternal Holy Spirit Himself was that one who stood before Moses on the rock that he instructed Moses to strike with the rod of Aaron. Please read Exodus 17:5,6  “And the LORD (Yahweh or Almighty God the Father Himself) said unto Moses, Go on before the people, and take with you of the elders of Israel; and your rod, wherewith you smote the river, take in your hand, and go. 6.  Behold, I (Yahweh) will stand before you there upon the rock in Horeb; and you shall smite the rock, and there shall come water out of it, that the people may drink. And Moses did so in the sight of the elders of Israel.”  The SPIRITUAL lesson that Paul is teaching us here is that JUST as the PHYSICAL ROCK was SMOTE and gave God's people WATER to give them physical LIFE to keep them from dying PHYSICALLY so was JESUS BROKEN to give us LIVING water unto ETERNAL life. Also, what Paul is teaching us here is for us NOT to tempt the Holy Spirit, the CHRIST, or the ANOINTING within us.), as some of them also tempted (Almighty God the eternal and invisible Spirit that went before them as a pillar of cloud by day and went behind them or followed them as a pillar of fire by night. In other words, the CHRIST of or the ANOINTING OF Almighty God did not DWELL IN the people of Israel as he now DWELLS IN us as believers in his Son Jesus, but rather the Holy Spirit was only with them in the wilderness. But they tempted God saying, “Is the Lord with us or not?”) and were destroyed by serpents.

10. Neither murmur you, as some of them also murmured, and were destroyed by the destroyer.

11. Now ALL these things happened unto them for EXAMPLES: and they are written for OUR admonition, upon whom the ends of the world are to come.”

 

So then, from the CONTEXT, we clearly see that the literal physical rock in the Old Testament was a SPIRITUAL EXAMPLE of a spiritual lesson TEACHING us of the coming to the CHRIST. Paul is using the liter rock that was BROKEN to let rivers of living water flow out of it as an ANALOGY of the ANOINTED ONE of Almighty God to be our Messiah, our savior, the atonement for our sins. So the SPIRITUAL Rock LESSON is that Jesus is our redeemer who was BROKEN in order to cleanse so that we could be given the LIVING WATER of the Holy Spirit to DWELL IN US as believers.


Please read Psalm 34:17-20.

 

“The righteous cry and the LORD hears and delivers them out of all their troubles. 

18.  The LORD is nigh unto them that are of a BROKEN heart; and saves such as be of a contrite spirit

19.  Many are the afflictions of the righteous: but the LORD delivers him out of them all. 

20.  He keeps all his bones: NOT ONE of them is broken.”

 

 Paul was not just comparing that physical rock as the only EXAMPLE written for us but ALL these things HAPPENED unto God's people FOR OUR EXAMPLES and OUR admonition. Paul is NOT saying that Jesus himself  PRE-EXISTED as that physical rock any more than Jesus pre-existed as a literal physical LAMB that was literally ALREADY slain from before the foundation of the world in the MIND and PLAN of God BEFORE any lambs were ever created. 

Everything that is written in the Old Testament that refers to Jesus is either a PROPHECY, a TYPE, a FIGURE, or an ANALOGY that was written for our EXAMPLE to know who the Messiah is when he came. Again, the verses in the Old Testament that SEEM to be teaching that Jesus pre-existed to manifest himself in some form such as the rock, the burning bush, and the angel of the LORD are TYPES, SHADOWS, and FIGURES that are PROPHECIES foretelling of the coming of Jesus to be the Messiah or the Savior, whom Almighty God Himself would raise up from AMONG the PEOPLE. 

To say this another way, Jesus preexisted in PROPHECY, as the LOGOS of God, the SAYING of God, the SPOKEN word of God written down by men of old foretelling us of his coming into existence where he never existed before EXCEPT WITHIN Almighty God as God's thoughts and desires to bring forth into existence. These things HAPPENED and were WRITTEN for our example and for our admonition or WARNING. Again, to ME, the only way that Jesus pre-existed was in the FORM of God's LOGOS, the SAYING of God, or the SPOKEN WORD of God that was PROPHESIED and written down by men of old. These prophecies were WRITTEN in the word of God speaking of the yet future COMING of Jesus as the CHRIST. Not one single prophecy in the Old Testament prophecies even remotely teaches us of a literal pre-existing Jesus. There are NO prophecies of the Son of God coming down out of heaven as the SON of God to become the Son of MAN but yet remain to be fully God in the flesh.

Yes, there are some verses in both the Old and New Testament that SEEM to be saying that Jesus pre-existed but I assure you that there are other ways to interpret every one of the verses of Scripture. For you see, it is the WAY that these verses are translated and INTERPRETED as to why they SEEM to be saying something that they are not truly saying if they were CORRECTLY interpreted in the LIGHT of the WHOLE word of Almighty God.

So I implore you my dear brothers and sisters in our Lord Jesus Christ, to THINK these verses through for yourself. Have an open heart and mind to hear the WHOLE matter. For you see, IF SO BE that Jesus PRE-EXISTED in some literal form whether his form is as the Son of Almighty God being a so-called God the Son, the second person of the Trinity. Or whether it be that Jesus pre-existed as an ANGEL. Or whether it be that Jesus pre-existed some divine eternal SPIRIT being called the WORD who was WITH God being alongside God. Then that would contradict that verses of Scripture that clearly teach us that God was ALONE and BY HIMSELF when He alone and by Himself created all things.

 

Please read Isaiah 44:24.

 

“Thus says the LORD, your redeemer, and He that formed you from the womb, I am the LORD that makes all things; that stretches forth the heavens ALONE; that spreads abroad the earth BY MYSELF;”

 

The only reason Christians interpret verses of Scripture to mean that Jesus pre-existed in eternity past is to try and make Jesus be Almighty God Himself because that Old Testament clearly teaches us that there is but ONE God. But yet in the New Testament Jesus is called God by his God and Father in Hebrews 1:8,9.

 

Please read Hebrews 1:8,9.

 

“But unto the Son, he said, Your throne, O God, is forever and ever: a scepter of righteousness is the scepter of your kingdom. 

9.  You have loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even your God, has anointed you with the oil of gladness above your fellows. ”

 

So way back in the third-century Christians began debating on how BOTH the Father AND His Son can be God seeing that there is just ONE God in the Old Testament. The Oneness Christaisn came up with their theory that the ONE God is ONE person manifested Himself in different modes. And they teach that Jesus IS the Father, as in a MANIFESTATION OF the Father so that the invisible God can be SEEN. And the Trinitarian Christians came up with their theory that since Jesus is clearly seen as a SEPARATE person FROM the Father then the ONE God must be made up of three SEPARATE persons. Yet other Christians believed that there were only TWO separate beings and that Jesus was [a] God under and subject to his God and Father. Today, these Christians are called BIBLICAL Unitarians. Please read the study “WHAT IS BIBLICAL UNITARIANISM?”

Now, I myself, believe that Jesus is [a] God who was created BY the ONE true God Yahweh the Father and that the ONE TRUE God is ONE God in ONE person. When I read the PROPHECIES of the coming Messiah I simply see the ORDER in which the EVENTS of prophecy are prophesied. And then I compare the prophecies in the Old Testament with the FULFILLMENT fo the prophecies in the New Testament. Every Christian knows about the TWO comings of Jesus but I do not know how many Christians have noticed that in some passages of Scripture BOTH coming are in the SAME prophecy. So if you did NOT know about the TWO separate comings of Jesus then you might confuse the two comings as just one coming. That is one reason why the Jews missed seeing their Messiah suffering and dying on the cross at the FIRST coming of Jesus. So as you read Isaiah 9:6,7 please notice the ORDER in which the events are PROPHESIED.

 

Isaiah 9:6,7.

 

“For (Order of event #1 that has already been FULFILLED) unto us, a CHILD is BORN, (THEN comes Order of event #2 that has also already been FULFILLED) unto us a son is given: (Speaking of the HUMAN Son of MAN, Jesus was given as the ONE sacrifice for the sins of the world) and (And THEN Order of event #3 is YET FUTURE and it is YET TO BE FULFILLED) the government shall be upon his shoulder: and ( And THEN will come Order of event #4 is  YET FUTURE and it is YET TO BE FULFILLED WHEN the government will be set upon the shoulder of Jesus IN the world to come) his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, (Or more precisely, the Father or the AUTHOR of eternal life, as in, BECAUSE OF Jesus obeying his God and Father will Jesus made it possible for whosoever believes in him shall be saved. For you see, the Son of MAN, Jesus, was GIVEN the authority and the power to JUDGE and give eternal life to whomsoever he chooses. This is why Psalms 2 prophesies to kiss the feet of God’s Son whom He ordained to be his King of kings and Lord of lords) The Prince of Peace. (And, according to Revelation 1:5, Jesus is our Prince right now standing at the right hand of God. But at his second coming, Jesus will SIT on the right hand of Yahweh to rule and reign FOR Yahweh as the Lord of the Sabbath. And at that time the kingdoms of this present world will become the kingdom of our Lord Jesus Christ. And)

7.  Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even forever. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will perform this.”

 

So then according to the PROPHECIES, the child was born FIRST, THEN the Son of MAN was GIVEN as God’s Lamb slain from before the foundation of the world. And THEN, in the world yet to come, the now HIGHLY EXALTED Son of MAN, Jesus will be CALLED the mighty God who will rule FOR Yahweh for 1000 years. And then after the 1000 years, Jesus will step down from ruling and commit the ruling of the kingdom BACK into the hands of his God and Father so that God will be all and in all.

 

Please read 1 Corinthians 15:28 from the Message Bible.

 

1 Corinthians 15:28 (MSG) When everything and everyone is finally under God's 

rule, the Son will step down, taking his place with everyone else, showing that God's rule is absolutely comprehensive - a perfect ending!”

 

Below is a complete list of all the studies that I have which show WHY I no longer believe in the doctrine of the Trinity and why I can NEVER believe in the doctrine of Oneness. I assure you that every verse that SEEMS to be saying that Jesus pre-existed in eternity past has another meaning that does NOT contradict any other verses of Scripture in the entire Bible.

Thanks for reading and may God bless you richly as you CONTINUE to seek the TRUTH of the WHOLE word of Almighty God.


Your Brother in our Lord Jesus Christ,

Brother Mark.

 

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Thanks for reading and may God bless you richly as you continue to seek the truth of the whole word of Almighty God.

 

Your brother in our Lord Jesus Christ,

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