EPHESIANS 3:9-11 Did JESUS CREATE all Things?


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EPHESIANS 3:9-11 DID JESUS CREATE ALL THINGS?

 

 

The purpose of this website here at AMatterOfTruth.com is to come to A Matter Of Truth because the truth matters. And in this particular study of God's word, the focus will be on answering the question of “WHO is the Creator of all things?” It has been taught in the mainstream church denominations that Jesus himself created all things and that everything that was made was made BY Jesus Christ based upon HOW one INTERPRETS Ephesians 3:9 and a few other verses such as John 1:1-3,10, Hebrews 1:2, and Colossians 1:16,17, which we will briefly cover in this study as well. I also have an in-depth study on each of these verses that are “interpreted” to mean that Jesus is the creator of the entire universe. I emphasize the word INTERPRETED because all of these verses of Scripture have another interpretation. And it is the true sound Biblical interpretation that all Christians should be seeking. So let us begin this study in God’s word to learn the TRUTH of the whole word of Almighty God. 

 

THE CREATOR

 

WHO CREATED ALL THINGS?

 

#1. Did Almighty God Yahweh ALONE and by Himself create all things?

 

#2. Did Jesus create all things as an agent used by Yahweh? In other words, did Almighty God instruct, tell, ask, or command Jesus what to create and together Almighty God the Father and His Son, Jesus created all things?

 

#3. Did Almighty God Yahweh create all things through or by the means of His “WORD”?

 

Now please keep in mind that it is ALSO taught that Almighty God, the Father, has created all things by His “word” FOR His Son Jesus. In other words, Biblical Unitarian Christians believe and teach that Almighty God Himself is ALONE the creator of all things. And that Almighty God used His SPOKEN word or His SPOKEN SAYING as to HOW Almighty God created all things FOR his Son Jesus. So you can see how there is more than just one “INTERPRETATION” of the Scriptures. Let us briefly discuss the four main interpretations of who is the creator.

At the time that this study was written, I would have to say that the most widely taught interpretation is the Trnitarian interpretation so we will number these four main interpretations in the order of how many Christians who PRESENTLY believe that interpretation.

 

INTERPRETATION #1.

 

Trinitarian Christians, who teach that Almighty God the Father created all things BY His Word, INTERPRETING the “Word” to be a separate divine Spirit being, who pre-existed WITH Almighty God by His side from all eternity past. Trinitarian Christians “interpret” the Word to mean God the Son which they teach as being the second person of a Godhead Trinity God. They teach that God created all things THROUGH Jesus.

 

INTERPRETATION #2.

 

The Oneness Pentecostal Christians teach that Jesus is God manifested in the flesh so they believe that Jesus is one and the self same being as Yahweh the Father. In other words, they do not believe that Jesus is a SEPARATE person from Yahweh the Father. They believe that Jesus IS the Father. So to them, Yahweh alone and by Himself created all things and His name is Jesus.

 

INTERPRETATION #3.

 

The Jehovah's Witnesses “interpret” the Word as being a separate divine being who Jehohvah created in the eternity past called the FIRSTBORN of every “creature” and then God’s Son created everything else.

 

INTERPRETATION #4.

 

Biblical Unitarian Christians believe and teach that Almighty God Himself is ALONE the creator of all things. They believe and teach that Almighty God used His SPOKEN word or His SPOKEN SAYING that came out from His own mouth as to HOW Almighty God created all things FOR his Son Jesus. They also teach that all the verses of Scripture in the New Testament that SEEM to be saying that Jesus is the creator of all THINGS are speaking of God’s NEW creation of PEOPLE who are created IN Jesus Christ. In other words, Biblical Unitarian Christians interpret the Scriptures in the New Testament that Almighty God alone is the CREATOR who used the Son of MAN, Jesus to create fallen man of whosoever believes to become His NEW CREATION and Jesus is the FIRST human to become God’s ETERNAL Son.

 

So which of the four teachings is the TRUTH? Keep in mind that all four teachings are the “INTERPRETATIONS” of the Scriptures and interpretations can be wrong.  So let us go to the word of TRUTH and see what the Bible ITSELF teaches us in the LIGHT of the WHOLE word of God. In other words, let us keep the verses of Scripture in their “context” and let us compare Scripture with Scripture to make sure that the “interpretation” we choose does not contradict other verses of Scripture when those verses are correctly interpreted.

Again, the following Scripture references are the verses of Scriptures from the word of God that are used by those that teach the doctrine of the Trinity, the doctrine of the deity of Jesus, and the doctrine of Oneness to show that Jesus Christ is the Creator. And, therefore, to the Christains who teach any of these three doctrines believe that Jesus must, without fail, be Almighty God Himself seeing that in the Old Testament Almighty God Yahweh ALONE and by Himself created all things. John 1:1-3,10, Hebrews 1:2, Ephesians 3:9, and Colossians 1:16,17 are the main verses that are used to try and prove that Jesus is Yahweh Himself based on the “INTERPRETATION” of these verses as the CREATION meaning the creation of the “entire universe” as opposed to the creation mean God’s NEW CREATION of people created IN Jesus Christ.

Before we go any further let us read Ephesians 3:9 and Isaiah 44:24 because they must be reconciled to be in full agreement with each other while also not contradicting any other verse in the Bible. We will first read these two verses of Scripture OUT of their CONTEXT so you can see how they are “interpreted” to mean that Jesus must be Yahweh Himself because Yahweh ALONE in the CREATOR, according to the Scripture in the Old Testament.

 

Ephesians 2:9 from the King James Version.

 

“And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world has been hid in God, who created all things BY Jesus Christ:”

 

Isaiah 44:24.

 

“Thus says the LORD, (Or thus say Yahweh) your redeemer, and HE that formed you from the womb, I am the LORD (Yahweh) that makes all things; that stretches forth the heavens ALONE; that spreads abroad the earth BY MYSELF;”

 

 

Again, both Trinitarian Christians as well as the Oneness Petecostal Christians reconcile these two verses to mean that Jesus must, without fail, mean that Jesis is Yahweh Himself because Ephesians 3:9 clearly says that all things were CREATED BY Jesus Christ and the Old Testament clearly teaches us that Yahweh is the CREATOR. Therefore, to them, Jesus IS Yahweh Himself.

Now, right off the bat, so to speak, anyone who is truly seeking the truth of the whole word of God should be able to see that the doctrine of Oneness is in error. Remember that the doctrine of Oneness also teaches that Jesus did not literally pre-exist in the eternity past as a SEPARATE being who was WITH God at God’s side. So to me, it makes no sense for the Apostle Paul to use the Greek word “dia” that is translated as the preposition “BY” Jesus Christ if so be that Jesus is not a SEPARATE person for God.

Also, please notice that God is the actual CREATOR who created ALL of “something” BY His Son Jesus Christ. I substituted the word “something” for the word “things” to draw your attention to the fact that there is no Greek word in the original text that can be translated as the English word “things” in this verse. Please read the literal word for word interlinear translation from the Textus Receptus while keeping in mind that the early church read from Greek manuscripts and not from any English “translation”.

 

Here is Ephesians 3:11 from the LITERAL translation.


“And to enlighten ALL (Strong’s #3956 which is speaking of the ALL of whosoever believes in Jesus to be created IN Jesus Christ tobe come God’s NEW creation of righteous people) what the fellowship of the SECRET having been concealed from the eons in the God  (Strong’s #G2513) the one (Strong’s G3588) THE (Strong’s # G3588) ALL (Strong’s #3956) CREATING THROUGH Jesus ANOINTED.”

 

I want you to notice no less than three things in the LITERAL translation that is translated from the SAME Greek text, the Textus Receptus, that the King James Version is translated. This is important because the King James translation has not only ADDED the English word “THINGS” but the translators of the KJV also OMITTED the two articles “THE”, Strong’s #G3588, from the KJV translation. 

Here is Ephesians 3:11 with all the Strong’s numbers following each translated word into English so you can see that there is no Greek word from which to translate the English word “THINGS”.  The English word “things” was ADDED by the translators which also OMITTED BOTH of the articles “THE”, as in, they omitted the “Strong’s number” for both but they used the pronoun “who” for one of the Greek articles to show the who as being Almighty God the Father that does the creating.


Ephesians 3:9 with the Strong’s numbers.

 

“And G2532 to make ALL G3056 men see G5461 what G5101 is the G3588 fellowship G2842 of the G3588 mystery, G3466 which from G575 the G3588 beginning of the world G165 has been hid G613 in G1722 God, G2316 who created G2936 [Omitted Strong’s # 3588 and also omitted the article THE] ALL G3956 things [No Greek word from which to translate the English word “things] by G1223 [Which also means THROUGH, FOR, BECAUSE OF, IN, and by reason of] Jesus G2424 Christ: G5547”

 

Now, the English words “men” and “is” were also added by the translators but they do not change the meaning of the original Greek text. However, the addition of the English word “things” has misled some Christians to wrongly interpret Ephesians 3:9 to mean that Jesus is the CREATOR of the “entire universe”. But clearly, the context is speaking about the creation of the ALL who believe because of Jesus the anointed. Notice that the same Greek word, Strong’s # G3056 is translated as “ALL” in the first sentence which is speaking of all “believers” in Jesus as opposed to all human beings. But at least the KJV was honest to put the word men in italics so that the readers would know that it was added by the translators. 

However, to ME, the honesty of the KJV ends and deception begins in the rest of this verse. Please understand that I am an avid King James reader. I prefer reading the KJV over any other translation of the Bible but I am NOT a KJV ONLY Christian. I understand that EVERY translation has errors and “bias” in them but the King James Version translates the Bible in such a way that if you are truly seeking the truth of the whole word of Almighty God you can interpret verses of Scripture in more than just one way. But on the other hand, the KJV is not without BIAS toward the doctrine of the Trinity. Please read the studies “” and “” But for now, I want you to notice how OMITTING the definite article “THE” before the word ALL and ADDING the word “THINGS” can change the intende meaning of this verse of Scripture. Especially when it is taken out of its context and strung together with other verses that have also been incorrectly interpreted out of their context. Let us read the LITERAL translation and the KJV translation side by side once again before we read Ephesians 3:9 being LEFT in its context.

 

Here is Ephesians 3:11 from the LITERAL translation.

 

“And to enlighten ALL (Strong’s #3956 which is speaking of the ALL of whosoever believes in Jesus to be created IN Jesus Christ tobe come God’s NEW creation of righteous people) what the fellowship of the SECRET having been concealed from the eons in the God  (Strong’s #G2513) the one (Strong’s G3588) THE (Strong’s # G3588) ALL (The SAME Strong’s #3956 which again is still speaking of the ALL of whosoever believes in Jesus that Almighty God the Father is) CREATING THROUGH Jesus ANOINTED.”

 

Ephesians 2:9 from the King James Version.

 

“And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world has been hid in God, WHO created all things by (Or BECAUSE OF) Jesus Christ:”

 

Cleary, God is doing the creating in both the LITERAL translation and in the King James translation. But the literal translation says CREATING which shows that God is still in the process of creating “something” as opposed to having already CREATED “something” in the eternity past. Again, I say “something” because we are still examining the Scripture to learn “WHAT” was or is being created BY, IN, FOR, THROUGH, BECAUSE OF, and BY REASON OF Jesus ANOINTED. Is the “what” the entire universe or god’s new creation of fallen men to become God new creatures created IN Jesus Christ. 

Simple put, what was the SECRET that was hidden in God from the foundation of the world? Was it the creation of the entire universe? Or was it the plan of salvation where God would create a PEOPLE for Himself by being saved IN Jesus anointed? To ME, it was God NEW CREATION of righteous people being created IN Jesus Christ. Let us read the definition of the Greek word “dia” from E-Sword so you can see the “bias” choice of the preposition “BY” Jesus Christ used in the King James Version.

 

G1223

διά

dia

dee-ah'

A primary preposition denoting the channel of an act; through (in very wide applications, local, causal or occasional). In composition it retains the same general import: - after, always, among, at, to avoid, because of (that), briefly, by, for (cause) . . . fore, from, in, by occasion of, of, by reason of, for sake, that, thereby, therefore, X though, through (-out), to, wherefore, with (-in). In composition it retains the same general import.

Total KJV occurrences: 610

 

Now, one could argue that perhaps the “literal” translation is the “bias” translation seeing that it is just my own OPINION that the King James Version of the Bible is BIAS toward the doctrine of the Trinity and the doctrine of the deity of Jesus. Well, I could say that it is just your opinion that the literal translation in bias and the KJV is the only true correct translation. So let us read the CONTEXT which clearly teaches us the INTENDED meaning of Ephesians 3:9.

 

Please read Ephesians 3:1-13.

 

“For this cause I Paul, the prisoner of Jesus Christ for you Gentiles, 

2.  If you have heard of the dispensation of the grace of God which is given me to you-ward: 

3.  How that by revelation He made known unto me the mystery; (as I wrote afore in few words, 

4.  Whereby, when you read, you may understand my knowledge in the mystery of Christ) [Or the mystery of the Messiah, as in, the mystery of God’s plan of salvation IN His Messiah, the anointed one of God. The subheading of this chapter in my Bible is called the mystery of the Gospel revealed]

5.  Which in other ages was not made known unto the sons of men, as it is now revealed unto his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit; (Now, certainly the Jews knew before this present age of grace that God created the universe. But neither the Jews nor the unsaved Gentiles knew about the plan of God that salvation would be IN Jesus, God’s Messiah. And before this revelation was given to the Apostle Paul it was hidden from the Jews that God would turn to save the Gentiles as well. So it was a mystery or something they did not know before under the Old Covenant)

6.  That the Gentiles should be fellow heirs, and of the same body, and partakers of His promise IN Christ by the gospel: 

7.  Whereof I was made a minister, according to the gift of the grace of God given unto me by the effectual working of His power. 

8.  Unto me, who am less than the least of all saints, is this grace given, that I should preach among the Gentiles the unsearchable riches of Christ; 

9.  And to make ALL men (Again, the word “men” was added. The ALL is speaking about people that are made to understand the Gospel of salvation IN Jesus Christ so that they can) see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world has been hid in God, WHO created ALL things by Jesus Christ: (Or this mystery of salvation was hidden in God who is the one creating the ALL of whosoever believes IN Jesus Christ)

10.  TO the INTENT that now unto the principalities and powers in heavenly places might be known by the church the manifold wisdom of God, 

11.  According to the eternal PURPOSE which He purposed IN Christ Jesus our Lord

12.  IN whom we have boldness and access with confidence by the faith of him

13.  Wherefore, I desire that you faint not at my tribulations for you, which is your glory.”

 

So all through the context we see that the subject is about being IN Jesus Christ. The context is about the dispensation of Grace and the MYSTERY of being IN Jesus. So to me, the best choice of words to translate the Greek word “dia” in verse 9 would be the preposition “IN” Jesus Christ as opposed to using the word “BY” Jesus Christ. Let us read verses 2;4 again because Paul said that he wrote about the mystery of the dispensation of Grace earlier.

 

Ephesians 3:2-4.

 

“If you have heard of the dispensation of the grace of God which is given me to you-ward: 

3.  How that by revelation He made known unto me the mystery; (as I wrote afore in few words, 

4.  Whereby, when you read, you may understand my knowledge in the mystery of Christ)” 

 

Again, the mystery is speaking of the Messiah, as in, the mystery of God’s plan of salvation IN His Messiah, the anointed one of God. The subheading of this chapter in my Bible is called the mystery of the Gospel revealed. When I looked the word “afore” up in order to cross reference it and I found it to me a LITTLE before. In today’s way of speaking we would say something like the mystery which I spoke of earlier in this letter I am writing to you.

So I went back to the beginning of this letter to the Epehsians and read the words Paul wrote “afore” in chapters 1 and 2 which is also the CONTEXT of Ephesians 3:9. And in chapter 1, Paul is talking about the MYSTERY that was hidden in God before the foundation of the world. As you read the broader context of Epehesian 3:9 please notice all the phrases “IN Christ” and “IN him”. Salvation is all about being created by God IN Jesus Christ to become a NEW CREATION of God created in righteousness. And also notice that is it Almighty God, Yahweh the Father who is doing the work. Salvation is the Father’s doing and Yahweh’s plan of salvation is for the ALL of whosoever believes to be saved IN Jesus Christ.

 

Please read Ephesians 1:3-23.

 

“Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places IN Christ

4.  According as He has chosen us IN him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before Him in love: 

5.  Having predestined us unto the adoption of children by (This is the same Greek word “dia” used in Ephesians 3:9 which also means through, by reason of, and IN) Jesus Christ to Himself, according to the good pleasure of His will, 

6.  To the praise of the glory of His grace, wherein He has made us accepted IN the beloved. (Speaking of being accepted by God by being IN the beloved Son of God, Jesus Christ)

7.  IN whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of His grace; 

8.  Wherein He has abounded toward us in all wisdom and prudence; 

9.  Having made known unto us the mystery of His will, according to His good pleasure which He has purposed in Himself

10.  That in the dispensation of the fulness of times He might gather together in one ALL things IN Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; even IN him: (Again, there is no Greek word in this verse in the original text from which to translate the English word “things”. It is the believers IN Jesus Christ that will be gathered together. The word ALL is speaking of the ALL of whosoever believes IN Jesus Christ, both the dead IN Christ in heaven and the live saints on the earth IN Jesus Christ, even IN him. And this is the same Greek word used in Ephesian 3:9 that is wrongly interpreted to mean all THINGS, as in, the entire universe as being what God created in the eternity past by Jesus Christ. So to me, the correct translation of verse 9 should be “...the SECRET having been concealed from the eons in the God  (Strong’s #G2513) the one (Strong’s G3588) THE (Strong’s # G3588) ALL (The SAME Strong’s #3956 which again is still speaking of the ALL of whosoever believes IN Jesus that Almighty God the Father is) CREATING THROUGH Jesus ANOINTED.” )

11.  IN whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestined according to the purpose of Him who works ALL (SAME Strong’s #3956) things (Again, the word “things” is not in the original text) after the counsel of His own will: 

12.  That we should be to the praise of His glory, who first trusted IN Christ

13.  IN whom you also trusted, after that you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: IN whom also after that you believed, you were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise, 

14.  Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of His glory.

15.  Wherefore, I also, after I heard of your faith IN the Lord Jesus, and love unto all the saints, 

16.  Cease not to give thanks for you, making mention of you in my prayers; 

17.  That the God OF our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give unto you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of him: 

18.  The eyes of your understanding being enlightened; that you may know what is the hope of His calling, and what the riches of the glory of His inheritance in (Or of) the saints, 

19.  And what is the exceeding greatness of His power to us-ward who believe, according to the working of His mighty power, 

20.  Which He wrought IN Christ, when He raised him from the dead, and SET him at his own right hand in the heavenly places, (Acts 2:36 teaches us that Almighty God the Father MADE the Son of Man Jesus to become both Lord and Christ. Jesus was ANOINTED at his baptism, according to the Scriptures. And Jesus was highly exalted to be made Lord and King AFTER the cross. So to interpret Ephesian 3:9 as Jesus ANOINTED being the creator of the entire universe then you would also have to argue that Jesus was ANOINTED in the eternity past as well. And that does not agree with the rest of God’s word. The truth of the matter is that Yahweh the Father SET Jesus at His own right hand after the cross. Everything that Jesus is or has was GIVEN to him by his God and Father Yahweh. God SET Jesus at His own right hand)

21.  Far above all principality, and power, and might, and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this world, but also in that which is to come: (I emphasized that God made Jesus Lord over this world an the world to come because Trinitarian Christians also use Hebrews 1:2 to try and prove that Jesus is the creator of the entire universe. We will look at that verse shortly)

22.  And (He, Yahweh the Father) has put all things under his feet, and gave him to be the head over ALL things to the church, (Again, the word “things” is not in the original Greek text. And neither in the word “to” The ALL is speaking of the ALL of whosoever believes IN Jesus. And God GAVE Jesus to be the head of the ALL, the church)

23.  Which is his body, the fullness of him that fills all in all.” 

 

So to me, the sound Biblical meaning of Ephesians 3:9 is that Almighty God Yahweh the Father is ALONE the creator of everything that exists and it is the Father doing the creating of the ALL of whosoever believes to be IN Jesus Christ to become God NEW CREATION. In other words, Ephesians 3:9 has nothing whatsoever to do with the original creation of the entire universe in the eternity past.

Let us not take a brief look at some other verses of Scripture in the New Testament that are used as “proof” text by both Trinitarians Christians and Oneness Pentecostal Christians to try and prove that Jesus is the creator so that they can prove that Jesus is Almighty God Himself as opposed to Jesus being another God under and subject to his God and Father.

 

Hebrews 1:2.

 

“Has in these last days spoken unto us by His SON, whom He (Almighty God) has appointed him (God's now eternal SON, Jesus) heir of all things, BY WHOM (Speaking of his SON Jesus) also HE ( Referring to Almighty God, who we now know is the FATHER) made the worlds.”

 

So again, we can clearly see that Yahweh the Father is the CREATOR who made the worlds. Now while it is true that Yahweh alone and by Himself created the entire universe, this particular verse of Scripture is speaking only of the EARTH. In other words, this present world and the world yet to come, the 1000 year reign of Jesus. 

For you see, according to 1 Corinthians 15:20-2, Jesus will commit the ruling of the world yet to come back into the Father’s hands at the end of the 1000 year reign of Jesus. So while Jesus is called God, the Father only set him as the God of the whole earth and not the God of the whole universe. And while the kingdom of God will never end the ruling of Jesus over the end will come to and end after the 1000 years has ended.

So to me, the phrase “BY whom” does not mean that Yahweh the Father created the entire universe in the eternity past BY a pre-existing God the Son. The Greek word “dia” also means FOR THE SAKE of who He made the worlds. In other words, for the sake of the MESSIAH to judge Lucifer and the fallen angels God chose to make two worlds to complete His plan of salvation. When you understand that Lucifer rebelled against God BEFORE God created the first Adam then you can see that God had the LAST Adam in His mind and plan BEFORE the first Adam, before Abraham, before John the Baptist, and before God RE-CREATED the earth to be inhabitable once again after the Luciferian flood. For a deeper understanding of why God created Jesus is little LOWER than the angels please read all the studies under the heading >>>WHY ARE WE HERE-IS GOD AT WAR?<<< And for an in-depth study on Hebrews 1:2 please read the study “WHAT DOES HEBREWS 1:1,2 TRULY MEAN?”

Another verse that is used to try and prove that Jesus is the creator and thus try to prove that Jesus is Yahweh Himself in Hebrews 11:3. Trinitarian Christians “interpret” the phrase “BY the word” to mean “BY the Word” so they can try and use John 1:1 to prove that the Word pre-existed as God the Son, the second person of a Godhead Trinity God.


Hebrews 11:3.

 

“Through faith we UNDERSTAND that the worlds were framed BY the WORD (NOT by Jesus, as in, the Word made flesh, Not by the SON, as in, God the Son in the eternity past. But rather BY the WORD, as in, the SPOKEN word) OF God, so that the things which are seen were NOT made of things which do appear.” 

 

The material things that are SEEN are NOT made from that which is SEEN. In other words, all things are created from that which is UNSEEN, rather than from being made out of NOTHING. What I mean by this is that all things are made OUT FROM Almighty God Himself who is SPIRIT and is INVISIBLE. Spirit is NOT nothing. Spirit is a real LIVING BEING from which, or out of which ALL things are MADE and BY whom all things are made. Please read the study  “DID GOD CREATE ALL THINGS OUT OF NOTHING?”)

And to two most widely used verses that are used to try and prove that Jesus is the creator are Colossians 1:16 and John 1:3. Again, when any verse of Scripture is taken OUT of its context and viewed apart from the rest of God’s word then it may SEEM to be saying something that is it not TRULY saying when it is correctly interpreted in the LIGHT of the WHOLE word of Almighty God.

 

Colossians 1:16.

 

“For BY HIM  were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: ALL THINGS were created BY HIM and for him.”

 

John 1:3.

 

All things were made BY him; and without him was not anything made that was made.”

 

To learn the true sound Biblical meaning of these two verses of Scripture please read the studies WHAT DOES COLOSSIANS 1:15-17 TRULY MEAN?” and WHAT DOES JOHN 1:1-3 TRULY MEAN?” Always remember that every “controversial” verse of Scripture has more than just one “interpretation” It is not the Scriptures that contradict other Scriptures. But rather, it is the “incorrect interpretation” of a Scripture that contradicts the sound Biblical correct interpretations of the Scriptures.

Thanks for reading and may God bless you richly as you continue to seek the TRUTH of the WHOLE word of Almighty God.

Below is a complete list of all the studies that I have which show WHY I no longer believe in the doctrine of the Trinity and why I can NEVER believe in the doctrine of Oneness. I assure you that every verse that SEEMS to be saying that Jesus pre-existed in eternity past has another meaning that does NOT contradict any other verses of Scripture in the entire Bible.

Thanks for reading and may God bless you richly as you CONTINUE to seek the TRUTH of the WHOLE word of Almighty God.

 

Your Brother in our Lord Jesus Christ,

Brother Mark.

 

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VERSES USED TO TEACH THAT JESUS PREEXISTED!

JOHN 1:1

 

“In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.”

 

JOHN 1:1-3

 

“In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

2. The same was in the beginning with God.

3. All things were made by him; and without him was not anything made that was made.” 

 

JOHN 1:1-5,14,18 

 

“In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

2. The same was in the beginning with God.

3. All things were made by him; and without him was not anything made that was made.

4.  In him was life; and the life was the light of men. 

5.  And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.…

...14. And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.…

...18. No man has seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he has declared him.”

 

JOHN 1:14

 

“And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.”

 

JOHN 1:15

 

“John bare witness of him, and cried, saying, This was he of whom I spake, He that comes after me is preferred before me: for he was before me.”

 

JOHN 1:18 

 

John 1:18 (NAS) No one has seen God at any time; the only begotten God who is in the bosom of the Father, He has explained Him.”

 

JOHN 2:19

 

“ Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.”

 

JOHN 3:13

 

“And no man has ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.”

 

JOHN 3:17

 

“For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.” 

 

JOHN 3:31

 

He that comes from above is above all: he that is of the earth is earthly, and speaks of the earth: he that comes from heaven is above all.”

 

JOHN 6:32 

         

“Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Moses gave you not that bread from heaven; but my Father gives you the true bread from heaven

 

JOHN 6:33 

 

For the bread of God is he which comes down from heaven, and gives life unto the world.”

 

JOHN 6:38

 

“For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me.”

 

JOHN 6:42 

 

“And they said, Is not this Jesus, the son of Joseph, whose father and mother we know? how is it then that he saith, I came down from heaven?”

 

JOHN 6:50 

 

“This is the bread which comes down from heaven, that a man may eat thereof, and not die.”

 

JOHN 6:51

 

“I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eats of this bread, he shall live forever: and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world.”

 

JOHN 6:58

 

“This is that bread which came down from heaven: not as your fathers did eat manna, and are dead: he that eats of this bread shall live forever.”

 

JOHN 6:62 

 

“What and if you shall see the Son of man ascend up where he was before?”

 

JOHN 8:14

 

“Jesus answered and said unto them, Though I bear record of myself, yet my record is true: for I know whence I came, and whither I go; but you cannot tell whence I come, and whither I go.”

 

JOHN 8:23 

 

“And he said unto them, You are from beneath; I am from above: you are of this world; I am not of this world.”

 

JOHN 8:24

 

“I said therefore unto you, that you shall die in your sins: for if you believe not that I am he, you shall die in your sins.”

 

JOHN 8:42,43

        

“Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, you would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me. 

43. Why do you not understand my speech? even because you cannot hear my word.”

 

JOHN 8:58

 

“Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.”

 

JOHN 10:30.31

 

I and my Father are one

31.  Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him.” 

 

JOHN 14:8-10

 

“Philip said unto him, Lord, show us the Father, and it sufficeth us. 

9.  Jesus said unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how say you then, Show us the Father? 

10.  Believe you not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwells in me, he does the works. 

JOHN 16:27,28 

 

“For the Father himself loves you, because you have loved me, and have believed that I came out from God

18. I came forth from the Father, and am come into the world: again, I leave the world, and go to the Father.”

 

JOHN 17:5

 

“And now, O Father, glorify you me with your own self with the glory which I had with you before the world was.”

 

JOHN 17:8 

 

“For I have given unto them the words which you gave me; and they have received them, and have known surely that I came out from you, and they have believed that you did send me.”

 

 

JOHN 17:24

 

“Father, I will that they also, whom you have given me, be with me where I am; that they may behold my glory, which you have given me: for you loved me before the foundation of the world.”

 

MATTHEW 1:23

 

“Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.”

 

ROMANS 8:3 

 

“For what the law could not do, in that, it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:”

 

1 CORINTHIANS 10:4

 

“And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ.”

 

1 CORINTHIANS 15:47  

 

“The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven.”

 

2 CORINTHIANS 8:9  

 

“For you know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, that, though he was rich, yet for your sake he became poor, that you through his poverty might be rich.”

 

GALATIANS 4:4

 

“But when the fullness of the time had come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law,”

 

EPHESIANS 3:9-11

 

“And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world has been hidden in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ:

10. To the intent that now unto the principalities and powers in heavenly places might be known by the church the manifold wisdom of God,

11. According to the eternal purpose which he purposed in Christ Jesus our Lord:”

 

EPHESIANS 4:10 

 

10. He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that he might fill all things.)”

 

COLOSSIANS 1:15-17 

 

“Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:

16. For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:

17. And he is before all things, and by him, all things consist.”

 

1 TIMOTHY 3:16

 

“And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.”

 

TITUS 2:13,14

 

“Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ

14.  Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.”

 

HEBREWS 1:1,2

 

“Has in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he has appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;”

 

HEBREWS 2:14-17

 

“Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil; 

15.  And deliver them who through fear of death were all their lifetime subject to bondage. 

16. For verily he took not on him the nature of angels, but he took on him the seed of Abraham.

17. Wherefore in all things it behooved him to be made like unto his brethren, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make reconciliation for the sins of the people.”

 

HEBREWS 5:8

 

Though he were a Son, yet learned he obedience by the things which he suffered;”

  

HEBREWS 10:5 

 

“Wherefore when he comes into the world, he says, Sacrifice and offering you would not, but a body have you prepared me:”

 

HEBREWS 13:8

 

Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and today, and forever.” 

 

PHILIPPIANS 2:6-8

 

Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:

7. But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:

8. And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.”

 

1 JOHN 1:1,2

 

“That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of the Word of life;

2. (For the life was manifested, and we have seen it, and bear witness, and shew unto you that eternal life, which was with the Father and was manifested unto us;)”

 

1 JOHN 5:7

 

“For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.” 

 

1 JOHN 5:20

 

“And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.”

 

REVELATION 3:14 

 

“And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God;”

 

GENESIS 1:26

 

“And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creeps upon the earth.”

 

PROVERBS 8:22-31 

 

“The LORD possessed me in the beginning of his way, before his works of old.”

 

MICAH 5:2

 

“But you, Bethlehem Ephratah, though you be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of you shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting.”

 

ISAIAH 9:6

 

“For unto us, a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.”

 

ANGEL OF THE LORD VERSES

 

Thanks for reading. May God bless you richly as you continue seeking the truth of the whole word of God. Also, please read the studies listed below related to Jesus being God, the doctrine of the Trinity, the Oneness doctrine, and the Deity of Jesus.

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             Verses used to try and support the doctrine of the Trinity, and that Jesus is Yahweh himself, as in one and the self-same being.

Genesis 1:26---Let US make man in OUR image!

Genesis 18:1-3 Was Jesus ONE of the THREE MEN or angels who APPEARED to Abraham?

Genesis 19:24--- YAHWEH rained down fire... from YAHWEH.

Isaiah 6:3---HOLY HOLY HOLY means TRINITY!

Isaiah 7:14---Immanuel God with us!

Isaiah 9:6---MIGHTY GOD and EVERLASTING FATHER!

Isaiah 48:16---The LORD AND HIS SPIRIT SENT ME!

Micah 5:2--- From everlasting.

Zechariah 12:10--- Look upon me whom they have pierced.

Matthew 1:23---Emmanuel God with us!

Matthew 28:19---In the name of the Father, Son, & Holy Spirit.

JOHN 1:1---AND THE WORD WAS GOD!

JOHN 2:19-22---Jesus raised HIMSELF from the dead?

JOHN 5:18 JESUS IS EQUAL WITH GOD!

JOHN 8:24 PROVES JESUS IS YAHWEH!

JOHN 8:58---BEFORE ABRAHA I AM!

JOHN 10:30---I AND MY FATHER ARE ONE!

JOHN 14:19---JESUS IS THE FATHER?

JOHN 20:28---MY LORD AND MY GOD!

Acts 20:28--- He has purchased with His own blood.

Romans 9:5--- Christ came...God blessed forever.

 2 CORINTHIANS 13:14 TEACHES TRINITY?

EPHESIANS 3:9 DID JESUS CREATE ALL THINGS?

COLOSSIANS 2:9 IS JESUS THE GODHEAD?

PHILIPPIANS 2:6-11 PROVES PREEXISTENCE

1 TIMOTHY 3:16---God was manifest in the flesh

TITUS 2:13---Our Great God and Savior Jesus Christ

TITUS 3:2 God our Savior toward man APPEARED

Hebrews 1:8--- Your throne O' God.

Hebrews 7:1-3 ---Is Melchizedek a theophany of Jesus?

1 John 5:7--- And these three are one.

1 John 5:20--- Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God...

2 Peter 2:1---God AND our Savior Jesus Christ 

2 Peter 3:18---Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ 

Revelation 1:8--- JESUS IS THE ALMIGHTY?

Revelation 1:17--- First and the Last (Isaiah 44:6

Revelation 17:14--- WHO IS THE KING OF KINGS.

       

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Now, I, myself, do not find one verse in the entire Bible that prophesies of God the Son being sent down from heaven to incarnate himself as the Son of God having TWO natures, one divine, and one human.

More Scriptures that show the TRUE Jesus to be the fulfillment of the Scriptures of PROPHECY that you can look up on your own: Luk_24:6-7, Luk_9:22, Luk_18:31-33; Mat_16:21, Mat_17:22-23, Mat_20:18-19; Mar_8:31-32, Mar_9:31; Mar_10:33-34; 1Pe_1:10-11; Rev_19:10+++ Joh_16:4-5, Joh_16:16-17, Joh_17:11-13+++Luk_24:26-27, Luk_24:46, Luk_21:22; Mat_26:54, Mat_26:56; Joh_19:24-37; Act_3:18, Act_13:29-31, Act_13:33; 1Co_15:3-4

In the law: Gen_3:15, Gen_14:18, Gen_22:18, Gen_49:10; Lev_16:2-19; Num_21:8, Num_35:25; Deu_18:15-19; Joh_3:14, Joh_5:46; Act_3:22-24, Act_7:37; Heb_3:5, Heb_7:1, Heb_9:8, Heb_10:1

In the prophets: Luk_24:27; Act_10:43; Isa_7:14, Isa_9:6, Isa_11:1-10, Isa_28:16, Isa_40:1-11, Isa_42:1-4, Isa_49:1-8, Isa_50:2-6; Isa_52:13-15, Isa_53:1-12, Isa_61:1-3; Jer_23:5, Jer_33:14; Eze_17:22, Eze_34:23; Dan_2:44, Dan_7:13, Dan_9:24-27; Hos_1:7-11, Hos_3:5; Joe_2:28-32; Amo_9:11; Mic_5:1-4; Hag_2:7-9; Zec_6:12, Zec_9:9, Zec_11:8-13, Zec_12:10, Zec_13:7, Zec_14:4; Mal_3:1-3, Mal_4:2-6

In the psalms: Psa_2:1-12, Psa_16:9-11, Psa_22:1-31, Psa_40:6-8, Psa_69:1-36, Psa_72:1-20, Psa_88:1-18; Psa_109:4-20, Psa_110:1-7, Psa_118:22; Joh_5:39; Act_17:2-3; 1Pe_1:11; Rev_19:10.

 

And as I promised here is the list of the six main headings that list all the studies I have on this subject as to who Jesus is according to what the Bible ITSELF teaches us in the LIGHT of the WHOLE word of Almighty God.

I will also give this list of the six following headings again at the end of this study so you can stay focused on one study at a time.

 

>>>A LIST OF STUDIES ON THE TRINITY!<<<

 

>>>IS THE DOCTRINE OF ONENESS BIBLICAL?<<<

 

>>>WHO OR WHAT IS THE HOLY SPIRIT?<<<

 

>>>IS JESUS THE CREATOR?<<<

 

>>>WAS JESUS CREATED?<<<

 

>>>WHAT IF YOU ARE WRONG?<<<

 

And for further studies on false teachings of the gospel of Jesus Christ please read the studies listed throughout all the studies here at AMatterOfTruth.com and view the videos under the tab at the top called >>>FALSE TEACHINGS!<<< Under that heading, you will find the facts of what religious groups like Mormonism, Jehovah's Witnesses, and Islam teach about Jesus as compared to the word of TRUTH, the Holy Bible, as in, the WHOLE word of Almighty God. And by the phrase “the WHOLE word of Almighty God”, I mean that all verses of Scripture must be correctly interpreted in the LIGHT of the whole word of God and compared with all other correctly interpreted verses of Scripture, as opposed to, interpreting a few verses that are taken OUT of context to teach what is not the truth of the WHOLE word of God. For you see, whenever any INTERPRETATION of a verse of Scripture CONTRADICTS any other verses of Scripture that are correctly interpreted in the light of the whole word of Almighty God then that INTERPRETATION is NOT the correct interpretation. So always interpret the hard “controversial” verses in the light of the SIMPLE CLEAR verses that do not need any interpretation to understand what they mean.

Plain and simple, if the gospel you have been taught does NOT follow the teachings of the WHOLE word of Almighty God under the NEW COVENANT written in the New Testament, then you have NOT been taught the TRUE BIBLICAL Jesus. Again, this does NOT necessarily mean that you are not saved, but rather, that you may not be walking with God in the FULL potential that our heavenly Father desires for you to walk. If you do not understand what I mean by this please be patient, this will all become clear as you read all the studies I give links to within this study. But you must have a sincere desire to know the truth and nothing but the truth.

So let us begin this study in God's word by me giving you a list of titles of Jesus during the days of his FLESH. Again, I will give this same list at the end of this study as well but for now, I would like you to simply read the list of titles of who Jesus was CALLED before Jesus ascended into heaven. There are actually FIVE AGES of Jesus and Jesus is something different in each of those five ages. I will also give the link to the study on the five ages of Jesus at the end of this study as well. But for now, please stay focused on reading THIS entire study first. Here are twelve titles of Jesus as to who Jesus is according to what the Bible ITSELF teaches us in SIMPLICITY.

 

Remember that Jesus is something DIFFERENT is each of the FIVE AGES of Jesus. So please read the study “THE FIVE AGES OF JESUS!”

 

#1. Jesus is the “I AM HE”!

 

Jesus said and if you do not believe I am he you will die in your sins. In other words, Jesus is the fulfillment of PROPHECY! What I mean by this is that Jesus is the one who was prophesied to come. Please read the following studies “PROPHECIES OF JESUS BEING THE MESSIAH!”, 365 PROPHECIES OF JESUS!”, “HISTORICAL EVIDENCE OF JESUS!”, “WHO IS THE TRUE MESSIAH?”, and “JOHN 8:24 IF YOU DO NOT BELIEVE I AM HE!”

 

#2. Jesus is the Son of MAN!

 

Jesus fulfilled the prophecies in the Old Testament Scriptures in the ORDER that the events of prophecy were prophesied. So this list of who Jesus is, according to the Bible itself is listed in the order that they were prophesied. In other words, Jesus did not come as the King of kings FIRST. But rather, Jesus was born of a VIRGIN first to suffer for the sins of the people. And then, Jesus will come again as the King of Israel. Please read the study “JESUS THE SON OF MAN!”

 

#3. Jesus is the CHRIST!

 

The word “Christ” does indeed mean the Messiah but before the Son of MAN, Jesus, actually became the Messiah by his death on the cross, God ANOINTED the Son of MAN. Many times in the Bible the word translated as “SENT” means COMMISSIONED and sending, as opposed to Orthodox Christianity meaning of being sent down from heaven. In other words, God ANOINTED the Son of MAN at his baptism by John the Baptist with His Holy Spirit and power to be able to accomplish the task that his God and Father commissioned or sent him out into the world to do. Please read the studies “JESUS THE CHRIST!” and “JESUS SAID WHO DO YOU SAY THAT I AM?”

 

#4. Jesus is the SON OF God!

 

Jesus was prophesied to be called the Son of God but the Son of MAN was not called the Son of God until his baptism by John the Baptist. This was when Yahweh the Father announced the Son of MAN as being His Son in whom he is well pleased. Please read the study “JESUS THE SON OF GOD!”

 

#5. Jesus is our FELLOW SERVANT!

 

Jesus is our BROTHER. We will be JOINT-HEIRS with Jesus. Jesus is the FIRSTFRUITS unto God. Jesus is the CAPTAIN of our Salvation gone before us. Jesus is the FIRSTBORN of every creature in the image of God. And we are being conformed into the image of God’s dear Son. Jesus is the firstborn among MANY BRETHREN. Please read the study “JESUS OUR FELLOW SERVANT!”

 

#6. Jesus is the ONLY begotten Son of God!

 

To learn the TRUE meaning of “ONLY BEGOTTEN Son of God” please read the study “JESUS THE ONLY BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD!”

 

#7. Jesus is the FULNESS of the Godhead BODILY!

 

For the true SOUND Biblical meaning of Jesus being the fulness of the Godhead please read the study “JESUS THE FULNESS OF THE GODHEAD!”

 

#8. Jesus is GOD!

 

And according to the Bible ITSELF, Jesus is “A” God under and subject TO HIS God and Father who ALONE is the ONLY TRUE God. Please BEGIN with the study “37 FACTS TO PONDER ABOUT JESUS BEING GOD!” And under four numbers I will list four things that Jesus is NOT.

 

#9. Jesus is NOT the FATHER!

 

Please read ALL the studies under the heading >>>IS THE ONENESS DOCTRINE BIBLICAL?<<<

 

#10. Jesus is NOT Almighty God Himself!

 

But rather Jesus is the IMAGE OF the invisible God. Please read the study “IS JESUS ALMIGHTY GOD?”

 

#11. Jesus is NOT Yahweh Himself!

 

Jesus came out from God but that does not mean that Jesus is Yahweh Himself. Please read the study “IS JESUS YAHWEH?”

 

#12. Jesus is NOT God the Son, the second person of the Godhead Trinity God who always existed without beginning in eternity past!

 

Please read ALL the studies listed under the heading >>>A LIST OF STUDIES ON THE TRINITY!<<<

 

 

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