How to lead Trinitarians out of Trinitarianism!


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HOW TO LEAD TRINITARIANS OUT OF TRINITARIANISM!


START BY SIMPLY

ASKING QUESTIONS ABOUT THE TRINITY!


The following is a list of questions that some Trinitarian Christians may not have ever considered about the doctrine of the Trinity. This is more of a guide or outline of questions that non-Trinitarian Christians can ask their fellow Trinitarian brothers and sisters in our Lord Jesus Christ to help them see the errors of the doctrine of the Trinity. These questions are honest and sincere questions that I believe every Trinitarian Christian should ask themselves and then go to the Bible to search out the answers for themselves just as Acts 17:11 and 2 Timothy 2:15 teach us.


Acts 17:11.


“These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the Scriptures daily, whether those things were so.”


2 Timothy 2:15.


“Study to show yourself approved unto God, a workman that needs not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.”


In other words, rightly discerning the word of truth so that you will never be confused concerning which church doctrines are God’s truth and which church doctrines are what the Bible refers to as doctrines of devils.

So then, every Christian needs to read and study the Bible for themselves to be sure that what they are being taught is what the Bible ITSELF teaches in its entirety. In other words, what does the WHOLE word of God itself teach us as opposed to just some verses taken out of their context to try and support a church doctrine that is not actually found explicitly stated in the Bible itself? Especially, when any Christian begins to see that any church doctrine actually contradicts what the whole word of God teaches us even though it uses many verses of Scriptures in the Bible to try and support the man-made church doctrine. In other words, if you are seeing that even one verse of Scripture does not agree with any church doctrine that you have been taught then you need to taken a closer look at that church doctrine. After you ask the Trinitarian Christians the questions listed below then I have some other questions and points to show them to help them understand that Jesus is the Christ, the SON OF Almighty God, and NOT Almighty God Himself in the flesh.

Be not deceived by church doctrines that are taught with the spirit of REQUIREMENT or that must be believed in order to be saved other than the CORE Gospel of Jesus Christ. If you do not know what the core true gospel of Jesus Christ is then please read this study “WHAT IS THE TRUE GOSPEL OF JESUS CHRIST?”  For you see, of what is taught as ESSENTIAL must be believed doctrine are just merely man-made church doctrines that are either not in the Bible at all, while other church doctrines are not rightly discerned correctly according to the WHOLE word of Almighty God. One example of a doctrine that is not righty discerned correctly is the rapture of the church. For you see, there will, indeed, be a catching up of the church but the controversy is WHEN the rapture of the church will take place. And some church denominations use “intimidation” to say that if you do not “believe” in the pre-tribulation of the rapture of the church then you will be left behind. They use the argument in James 1:6 to let no man that wavers in their faith think that he will receive anything from God. And they wrongly conclude, therefore, if you DOUBT the pre-tribulation rapture then you will not be raptured because of your own unbelief.

And that my dear brothers and sisters in our Lord Jesus Christ is plain WRONG! It is wong to use a LIE to instill a “godly” fear in anyone. There is nothing wrong with using “godly” fear to save a person from the lake of fire, but it is wrong to use made-man church doctrine that contradicts other verses of Scripture in the Bible. Please read all the studies under the heading >>>PROPHECY-THE COMING OF JESUS!<<<

But for now, back to this guide on how to lead Trinitarian Christians out of Trinitarianism by first asking them some very simple questions. I have divided these questions into two groups of questions. The first ten questions are simply general questions that anyone can answer from their own personal experience like what do you believe and why do you believe what you have come to believe? The second group has 27 questions that are more about what does the doctrine of the Trinity ACTUALLY teach such as did you know this or that about the doctrine of the Trinity?

Now, the second group of questions will require you to read the Bible for yourself and doing your own research for yourself. But do not worry, I will give you the references to verses of Scripture to look up in the King James Bible. For you see, Some Trinitarians Christians only trust the KJV Bible. I will also give you links to some in-depth Bible studies on each related question. I also have an in-depth study called “ANSWERING THE DOCTRINE OF THE TRINITY!”, which you can also use or just give a link to a Trinitarian which they may or may not read on their own.

What I have found is that almost all Christians are usually satisfied with what they have been taught unless they see something in God’s word for THEMSELVES that causes them to QUESTION what they have been taught. So it is best to pray for the Trinitarian Christ that you desire to help, first, and then ask them what they think about a particular verse that you yourself see that contradicts what the doctrine of the Trinity teaches. Once they consider one or more verses that contradict what they have been taught then they will be more likely to read the entire study that you give to them. BUT you need to instruct them to make TWO lists. One list will be the list of Scriptures that you have proven to them from the Bible that the doctrine of the Trinity contradicts. Almost all of these verses of Scripture are simply read right over by all Trinitarian Christians. For example, very few Trinitarian Christians know or understand that Jesus was mad a little LOWER than the angels DURING the days of his FLESH, according to Hebrews 2:5-10 and Hebrews 5:7. You can get even hard-core Trinitarian Christians to THINK about what the doctrine of the Trinity and the doctrine of the Deity of Jesus ACTUALLY teach by simply asking them questions such as, “How can Jesus BE Almighty God Himself in the FLESH when Almighty God Yahweh MADE Jesus a little LOWER that the ANGELS?” And the angels co-equal with God? NO! Then how can the Son of MAN, Jesus be co-equal with Almighty God Himself DURING the days of his FLESH seeing that God MADE Jesus a little LOWER than the angels, according to these two passages of Scripture that you just read for yourself? Can you not see that the doctrine of the Trinity CONTRADICTS what the Bible ITSELF teaches?

Now, before we get into more verses of Scripture like this first example, let us begin with the first ten general questions to ask fellow brothers or sisters in the Lord who may believe in the doctrine of the Trinity, the doctrine of Oneness Pentecostal Christians, or the doctrine of the Deity of Jesus having TWO natures at the SAME time during the days of his FLESH before moving on to the next 27 questions about the doctrine of the Trinity. The first ten questions are asked to see IF the Trinitarian Christians that you are reaching out to sincerely believes that he or she MUST believe in the doctrine of the trinity in order to be saved or in order to be a TRUE Christian.


#1. Do you believe in the doctrine of the Trinity?

#2. Since you believe in the doctrine of the Trinity then why do you believe in the doctrine of the Trinity?

#3. Did your church denomination teach you the doctrine of the Trinity?

#4. However, you came to believe in the doctrine of the Trinity have you ever read or have been told that you MUST believe in the doctrine of the Trinity in order to be saved?

#5. Do YOU yourself sincerely believe that you MUST believe in the doctrine of the Trinity in order to be saved or in order to be a TRUE Christian?

#6. If so, then was the doctrine of the Trinity a part of the gospel that brought you saving faith to believe in Jesus as your savior? They should say no.

#7. If the doctrine of the Trinity was NOT part of the gospel that caused you to believe in Jesus and you were saved before you ever heard of the doctrine of the Trinity then WHY do you believe and or teach that one MUST believe in the doctrine of the Trinity in order to be saved?

#8. Why is there even a doctrine of the Trinity if it is NOT a part of the gospel of salvation?

#9. Why do YOU YOURSELF believe in the doctrine of the Trinity?

#10. Are you OPEN to hearing WHY I myself believe that the Bible ITSELF does NOT teach the doctrine of the Trinity, the doctrine of Oneness Pentecostalism, or the doctrine of the Deity of Jesus DURING the days of his FLESH?


After you have determined why a brother or sister believes in the doctrine of the Trinity, the doctrine of Oneness Pentecostal Christians, or the two natures at the same time doctrine of the Deity of Jesus then you can move on to the next group of questions. This next group of questions is about what the doctrine of the Trinity ACTUALLY teaches. Some of these questions are the did you know this or that, type of questions concerning the doctrine of the Trinity because some Trinitarian Christians have no idea what the doctrine of the Trinity actually teaches.


#1. Do YOU yourself know what the doctrine of the Trinity teaches well enough to explain it to me? In other words, can you explain to me in your own words what you yourself understand what the doctrine of the Trinity teaches? Listen to their explanation of the doctrine of the Trinity. You want to know if they understand what the Trinitarian terms co-eternal and co-equal actually mean. You are learning what they themselves believe because not all Trinitarians Christians believe the same thing. So keep asking a few more question before you get into the Scriptures.


#2.  Are God the Father and His Son Jesus one and the same being? For you see, some Trinitarians are more Oneness Pentecostal believers than they are Trinitarian Christians. So point blank ask them the questions, is Jesus IS the Father, as in, did the Father manifested Himself to become flesh? If they say that God the SON became flesh then move on to the next question.


#3. So then, since the doctrine of the Trinity teaches that Jesus and Almighty God the Father are separate distinctly different persons and they are NOT one and the self-same being then would that not be two Gods? Wait to hear what they say. Then expound a little more. What I mean by this question is suppose there is a mighty King over a VAST kingdom who has a son. And that great King APPOINTED his son to rule over as mall section of his vast kingdom. Would the son who was appointed king over part of the great King’s vast empire be ONE and the self-SAME King as the great King?


#4. So then, let me get this straight. Are you saying that the doctrine of the Trinity teaches the Father and His Son are NOT two separate Gods? So then, are you saying that the doctrine of the Trinity calls each of them, the Father and His Son, separate persons who are ONE and the self-same God?

But yet you can clearly see that the great King and his son whom he himself appointed as “A” King over ONLY a small section of his vast kingdom are NOT one and the self-same “King”. You can clearly see that they are two SEPARATE persons AND that they are two separate Kings ruling together in unity in the ONE kingdom. So WHY can you not see that Jesus and his God are two separate Gods? Please be patient and hear me out as to why I believe that the Bible ITSELF does not teach us that Jesus IS Almighty God Himself in the flesh. 


#5. How can three SEPARATE beings or persons who are all three called God according to the doctrine of the Trinity be the ONE self-SAME true God if they are NOT one and the self-same BEING? They will try and use the argument that there is one WHAT and three WHO'S. If they do then point out the verses in the New Testament that ALWAYS clearly identifies the ONE God or the one WHAT as being the FATHER. Let them think about that while you ask them the next question.  If they do not know of any verses showing that God is the Father then you give them the verses that always clearly identify the Father as being God. You can refer to the studies “IS JESUS THE FATHER and “VERSES THE PROVE JESUS IS NOT THE FATHER!” for all the verses that clearly identify God as being the Father ALONE.


#6. Are the Father and His Son, Jesus, the same ONE God in ONE BEING or are they the ONE God in UNITY like the example of the two separate Kings?

See the following verses found in Malachi 2:10;  Mark 12:28-32; Deuteronomy 6:4,5; Romans 3:23-30; 1 Corinthians 8:6; Ephesians 4:6; and 1 Timothy 2:3-7.


#7. If the Father and his Son Jesus are NOT one and the same God in ONE being and they are ONE in UNITY only, then would that not be TWO separate persons who are both called by the TITLE of God who BOTH are UNITED together as ONE in purpose to do the will of the ONE true God who alone is the Father? You want them to see, that the word “God” is a TITLE just like the word “King” is a TITLE, and the word “Lord is a TITLE. Then point out that Jesus was MADE Lord AFTER the cross, according to Acts 2:31 and Psalm 110:1,2. And Jesus was SET or appointed to be Yahweh’s King, according to Psalm 2, Psalm 89:27, and Isaiah 9:6,7.


#8. Did you know that Jesus will rule FOR the Father for 1000 years in the world to come and then after the 1000 years Jesus will step down from ruling?

See Revelation chapter 20, 1 Corinthians 15:20-28, and Psalm 110:1,2. Also, see the prophecy in Isaiah 40:10 of the arm of Yahweh shall rule FOR Him or for Yahweh. See also, Isaiah 41:2, and Isaiah 49:1-6.

#9. Did you know that Almighty God is the God OF his Son Jesus Christ?

Please read Ephesians 1:17; Romans 15:6; 2 Corinthians 1:3; 2 Corinthians 11:31; Ephesians 1:17’ Ephesians 4:6; Colossians 1:3; and 1 Peter 1:3.


#10. So then, are you seeing or at least starting to see and understand that the Bible ITSELF clearly teaches us that Jesus was NOT God while he was on the earth DURING the days of his FLESH and that Jesus became a Deity or a Lord and a God AFTER the cross.

Or are you holding fast to the teaching of the doctrine of the Trinity that states that Jesus was fully the Almighty God and fully a man at the same time on the earth having two natures, one divine, and one human?

If you do not believe that the Scriptures I have shown to you prove that Jesus BECAME a God AFTER the cross the where are the verses in the Bible itself that say that Jesus had a divine nature while he was on the earth? 

For you see, the phrase “divine nature” is only found ONE time in the entire Bible and this is in 2 Peter 1:4. And we also will be made partakers of the “divine nature” of immortality at the coming of Jesus. 

And also, the Bible itself teaches us that Jesus will not rule as God of the whole earth until the world yet to come. Even now in heaven, Jesus is called a PRINCE, according to Revelation 1:5. Also, see Acts 3:15; Acts 5:31; and Ephesians 2:2.  For you see, Jesus will not be crowned the King of kings until it is time for him to return to the earth with his armies from heaven to deliver God’s people and execute the wrath of God. See Revelation 19:11-16.


#11. So then, since the Bible itself teaches us that BOTH the Father is called God and His Son is called God then do YOU yourself believe that they are both the ONE and only Almighty God? 

Or does the Bible itself teach us that the Father is the ONLY TRUE God who ALONE is the Almighty God and His Son Jesus is a God who is under and subject to his God and Father? See all the verses listed under question #9 as well as these following verses found in Matthew 27:46; Mark 15:34; John 20:17; Revelation 3:12 and Mark 12:29. 

So then, the same God OF Jesus is our God and Father. Please see 1 Thessalonians 1:2; Revelation 7:10; Revelation 12:10; Romans 1:8; 1 Corinthians 1:4; and Philippians 4:19.


#12. So then, how can an Almighty God have another God over him? There can only be ONE TRUE God who ONLY is the Potentate and who ONLY and ALONE is the source of all life as the giver of life, mortal life, and eternal life. 

For you see, IF one says that Jesus IS Almighty God Himself in the flesh then they are actually saying that the Bible is a LIE because that Father is the God OF Jesus. And the very meaning of the word “Almighty” means that the ONE God in ONE person who alone is the Almighty God can NOT have another God over Himself or that God OVER him would then BE THE Almighty God.

But the Bible itself clearly teaches us that Yahweh the Father is THE God OF gods which He Himself APPOINTED to be gods under Himself. God made Moses be a god in the sight of Pharaoh, according to Exodus 7:1. And Yahweh prophesied that He would raise up a Prophet like unto Moses, according to Deuteronomy 18:15-18. The children of Israel did not want to hear God’s terrible voice anymore, but rather, they wanted a MAN to lead them and Jesus is that MAN named Israel which means “He shall rule AS God”. The angels are called Elohim which is translated as gods and mighty ones. Please read John 17:1-3; 1 Timothy 6:13-16; and John 5:17-30. Also, see the verses that teach us that Yahweh is the God OF all other Gods found in Deuteronomy 10:17; Joshua 22:22; Psalm 136:2; Daniel 2:47; and Daniel 11:36.


#13. Please understand that just because the Bible itself says that the Father is the ONLY TRUE God does NOT mean that Jesus is a FALSE God. For you see, God the Father is the God OF our Lord Jesus Christ who MADE, set, appointed, ordained, and created to BECOME a God to rule FOR Yahweh in the world to come UNTIL the Father puts all the enemies under his feet. That is what the Bible PROPHESIES and that is what wwe se being FULFILLED.

So my question to you is where are the PROPHECIES that prophesy a pre-existing Almighty God the Son coming down from heaven and incarnating himself to be flesh AND remaining the fully Almighty God having TWO natures at the SAME time DURING the days of his FLESH?

And if you can not show me any such verses of prophetic Scriptures then are you saying that you are above the Bible and it is impossible for the doctrine of the Trinity to be in error?


#14. Did you know that the word “God” is a TITLE and that we must look at the CONTEXT of that word “God” to see if it is speaking of Yahweh the Father or if it is speaking of Jesus or if it is speaking of someone else called God? 

Simply read the ORDER of the events prophesied in Isaiah 9:6,7 and you will see that the FIRST order of events is that a CHILD would be born and THEN a Son would be given speaking of the HUMAN Son prophesied to be born of a WOMAN. THEN his NAME shall be CALLED the Mighty God WHEN the government shall be laid upon his shoulders. So Jesus was PROPHESIED to be NAMED or CALLED God. And we can clearly see that Jesus was MADE Lord AFTER the cross and that was WHEN the Son of MAN, was GIVEN all power and authority BY his God and Father, according to Matthew 28:18. And that is also when Thomas called Jesus my Lord and my God. It was also AFTER the cross that the prophecy of Almighty God the Father called His Son God as well.


#15. So then, how could Jesus be a so-called pre-existing God the Son in the eternity past when the Bible itself teaches us that Jesus was MADE a God under his God AFTER the cross?

Did you know that the Greek word “theos” can be translated as God, a God, god, gods, a god, a God under the God, a god under the God, and even as a goddess? And the only way to know if the word “God” is speaking of the ONLY TRUE God is by the CONTEX?

Many times, the definite article “the” will precede the word “God” to let us know that the word God is referring to Yahweh. And if the definite article “the” is not in the original Greek text then the context should tell us. But if the context is not clear then we are to determine the TRUE meaning of Jesus as being CALLED God by the WHOLE word of God. And the New Testament ALWAYS clearly identifies the FATHER as being THE ONLY TRUE God who alone is the ALMIGHTY God and the God OF His Son Jesus. And that means that Jesus is “A” God under and subject to his God and NOT that Jesus is Almighty God Himself in the flesh. Again, see every verse listed in question #9, in question #11, and in question #12.


#16. Did you know that the Bible ITSELF teaches us that the Father and his Son Jesus are indeed TWO SEPARATE Gods? THINK for yourself! How can the Father who is the ONLY TRUE God who alone is that ALMIGHTY God and the GOD of his Son Jesus be one and the same God as his Son seeing Jesus is a God under and subject TO HIS God and Father? See again John 17:3, 1 Timothy 6:13-16, and 1 Corinthians 15:2-28 along with all the verses in question #15.


#17. Do YOU, as a Trinitarian, worship Jesus? I as well worship Jesus, honor Jesus, give thanks to Jesus, praise Jesus, talk to Jesus in prayer and take authority over Satan in the MIGHTY NAME of Jesus but I no longer can believe the doctrine of the Trinity because it contradicts the word of God in so many ways. I believe that fi Almighty God Himself CHOSE to highly exalt a MAN to become a God to rule for Him in the world to come for 1000 years so the Father could judge the world BY the MAN that He Himself ORDAINED, according to Acts 17:31 then who am I to say that it is impossible for there to be TWO Gods. Please read the study “ARE THER TWO GODS?”


#18. So then, are you going to REJECT what the Bible ITSELF teaches to cling to the man-made doctrine of the Trinity that took almost four centuries to develop?


#19. Have you ever done any research on your OWN for YOURSELF to see HOW and WHY the doctrine of the Trinity came to be?


Let me just say briefly that men of God did not start out to create any church doctrine, but rather, they were simply trying to understand what the Bible means by Jesus being the SON OF the living God.

So rather than the Scriptures being their sole foundation, they REASONED within themselves that Jesus MUST have had a DIVINE NATURE seeing that God is his FATHER. And that is how the doctrine of the Trinity began to develop over hundreds of years. It was basically started by asking “philosophical” questions that led to an ASSUMED conclusion that since Almighty God the Father has a divine nature then His Son MUST ALSO have a divine nature.


#20. Did you know that the word “Trinity” is not found in the Bible?

Look up the word “Trinity” in any Bible concordance.


#21. Did you know that the phrase “God the Son” is NOT found in the Bible?

Look up the phrase “God the Son” in any Bible concordance.


#22. Did you know that the phrase “God the Holy Spirit is NOT found in the Bible and that the Holy Spirit has no name other than being called the FATHER?

Look up the phrase “God the Holy Spirit” in any Bible concordance. And please read the study “WHY THE HOLY SPIRIT IS THE FATHER!”


#23. Did you know that the Bible does NOT teach that the Son of God is EQUAL to the Father?

Always remember that Jesus was MADE a little LOWER than the angles DURING the days of his FLESH and then CROWNED with glory and honor to OBTAIN a more excellent NAME than the angles AFTER the cross. Please read the study “JOHN 5:18 JESUS MAKING HIMSELF EQUAL WITH GOD!”


#24. Did you know that the Bible does NOT clearly teach us that the Holy Spirit is a SEPARATE DISTINCT PERSON from the Father?

But rather, the New Testament teaches us more so that Almighty God the Father and his Holy Spirit are ONE and the SELF-SAME eternal Spirit. Again, please read the study “THE HOLY SPIRIT IS THE FATHER for all the verses that to ME clearly show that there is but ONE eternal Spirit who alone IS Almighty God the Father.


#25. Did you know that Jesus became God’s eternal Son AFTER the cross?

Please read the three-part study “WHEN DID JESUS BECOME GOD’S ETERNAL SON?” for all the verses.


#26. Did you know that the Bible teaches that Jesus first came into existence at the Virgin birth?

Simply read HOW the word became flesh in Luke 1:26-38 and please notice that the Bible itself does not say that God the Son came down for heaven to become flesh. It simply says that the “word” became flesh. The word was NOT capitalized in earlier translations of the Bible. The word is God's spoken word of PROPHECY that came out from God's mouth. Please watch this short 5-minute video where a well known Trinitarian teacher openly agrees that the word in John 1:1 is NOT a separate divine person who was with God in the eternity past. Here is the link to the video called  TRINITARIAN MICHAEL BROWN AGREES WITH UNITARIAN CHRISTIANS. And when the angel Gabriel SPOKE the word of God a child was CONCEIVED in the womb of the Virgin Mary. Please read the study “HOW DID JESUS BECOME JESUS?” for all the verses on how the spoken word of God became flesh.


#27. Did you know that the Bible ITSELF does NOT teach us that the Word is a SEPARATE divine being from Yahweh who was with Yahweh at his side for all eternity past?

Please read the study “WHAT DOES JOHN 1:14 TRULY MEAN?” along with the study WHAT DOES GOD INCARNATE TRULY MEAN?” for all the verses that prove that God the Son did not become flesh. Also, read ALL nine studies that I have on John 1:1.

Below is a list of all the studies that I have written on WHY the Bible ITSELF does NOT teach the doctrine of the Trinity and why the doctrine of the Trinity is NOT an issue of salvation as some Trinitarian churches dogmatically demand saying things like, “If you do not believe in the doctrine of the Trinity then you are not a true Christian and you are not saved because John 8:24 says that you will remain dead in your sin if you do not believe I am [he]. For you see the pronoun [he] is not in the original Greek text.”

I implore you to NOT be intimidated with fear to believe ANY Christian doctrine or to believe that you MUST be a part of a certain church denomination CLAIMING that they ALONE have the truth and if you are not a part of THEIR church then you are not saved and cannot be saved until you are baptized in THEIR church. For the TRUE SOUND Biblical meaning of John 8:24 please read the study “JOHN 8:24 IF YOU DO NOT BELIEVE I AM HE!”

And keep in mind that John 8:24 is the very CONTEXT of the famous Trinitarian verse John, 8:58. I cover all the I am Scriptures under the heading >>>IS THE DOCTRINE OF ONESS BIBLICAL?<<<

Thanks for reading and may God bless you richly as you continue to seek the truth of the WHOLE word of God. Again, above is a list of studies on the doctrine of the Trinity showing it is false teaching related to those particular questions. And below is a compiled list of all the studies I have written on the doctrine of the Trinity, the doctrine of Oneness, the doctrine of the Deity of Jesus, and who Jesus is according to the Bible.


“A LIST OF STUDIES ON THE TRINITY”


Also, below is all the verses of Scripture that are used to try and prove that Jesus PRE-EXISTED in the eternity past supposedly WITHOUT ever having a BEGINNING.


Your brother in our Lord Jesus the Christ,

Brother Mark.


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VERSES USED TO TEACH THAT JESUS PREEXISTED!

Here is a link that will give you links to all the studies that I have written on every verse of Scripture that I have been made aware of that are used to teach that Jesus pre-existed and to try and prove the doctrine of the Trinity.

>>>VERSES USED TO TEACH THAT JESUS PRE-EXISTED!<<<

Simply click on the link and then scroll down to find the verse of Scripture that you would like to study to learn its true sound Biblical meaning when it is correctly interpreted in the LIGHT of the WHOLE word of Almighty God. And then click on that link to read the study on that particular verse of Scripture. 

Thanks for reading and may God bless you richly as you continue seeking the truth of the whole word of God.

Your brother in our Lord Jesus Christ,

Brother Mark.

 

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