IS JESUS YAHWEH HIMSELF? Part 3


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IS JESUS YAHWEH HIMSELF? Part 3

 

PART 3 OF THE FIVE-PART STUDY OF IS JESUS YAHWEH?


Well, we made a little more progress in part 2 of IS JESUS YAHWEH HIMSELF? Part 2 where we learned that just because Jesus has the same TITLES of God and Lord does NOT mean the Jesus IS Yahweh Himself. For you see, Jesus was MADE Lord and God BY Yahweh after the cross. And here in part three, we will continue to look at the Trinitarian arguments that Trinitarian Christians sincerely believe prove that Jesus IS Yahweh Himself during the day of the FLESH of Jesus. Again, the Trinitarian arguments will be in a different font style and the emphasis is my own to point out specific things that contradict the doctrine of the Trinity. In other words, some arguments FOR the Trinity actually CONTRADICT the doctrine of the Trinity.

 

Jesus is sovereign.

 

Christ presently sits at the right hand of God the Father, “angels and authorities and powers having been made subject to Him” (1 Peter 3:22). When Christ comes again in glory, He will be adorned with a majestic robe, and on the thigh section of the robe will be the words, “KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS” (Revelation 19:16).

 

Please notice that I emphasized the trinitarian argument “having been MADE subject to Jesus. Why would the angels need to be MADE subject to Jesus who, according to the doctrine of the Trinity IS Yahweh Himself? This “having been MADE subject to Jesus only works with a HUMAN Jesus who was HIGHLY EXALTED to OBTAIN a more excellent name than the angels.

We have already learned in parts 1 and 2 that EVERYTHING that Jesus has or is, was GIVEN TO him BY his God and Father Yahweh. Please read the study REVELATION 17:14 WHO IS THE KING OF KINGS? to learn how Jesus was MADE to BECOME the King of kings and the Lord of lords by THE ONE TRUE KING and one true LORD the God and Father OF his SON Jesus who made his SON be both Lord and CHRIST. But some things are worth repeating.

 

Please read Acts 2:36.

 

“Therefore let all the house of Israel KNOW ASSUREDLY, (Which all CHRISTIANS should ALREADY know assuredly) that God  (Yahweh the Father) has MADE that same Jesus, whom you have crucified, BOTH Lord and Christ.”

 

Then in Psalms chapter 2 we learn that Jesus was made or set up or appointed to be the King of the kings of the earth by his God and Father Yahweh.

 

Psalm 2:1-12.

 

“Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing?

2.  The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the LORD, (Yahweh) AND against his ANOINTED (Jesus the SON OF Yahweh who Yahweh ANOINTED to be God and King ABOVE his fellow human beings) saying,

3.  Let us break their (God and Son ruling on the same ONE throne but Yahweh allowing His highly exalted human Son to make the decisions for 1000 years) bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us.

4.  He that sits in the heavens shall laugh: the Lord (Or my Lord Jesus my SON) shall have them in derision.

5.  Then shall he (Jesus the SON OF Yahweh) speak unto them in his wrath, (In truth, it is the Father’s wrath that he will give to His SON Jesus to execute for Him) and vex them in his sore displeasure.

6.  Yet have I SET MY KING upon My holy hill of Zion. (Here we clearly see that Yahweh has SET His SON Jesus up to become His King over the kings of the earth and WE will rule and reign WITH Jesus FOR Yahweh in Yahweh’s NAME for 1000 years/ Remember in Isaiah that Jesus is the ARM of the LORD Yahweh. So Jesus was MADE or ordained By God to be King. Lord and God by TITLE over the earth during the world yet to come for 1000 years)

7.  I will declare the decree: the LORD has said unto me, You are my Son; THIS DAY have I begotten you. (This verse shows us that Jesus was brought into existence on a certain DAY at a specific point in time. The mere FACT that Jesus was BORN demands that the SON has a BEGINNING. But that DAY in which Jesus became God’s ETERNAL Son to be CROWNED with glory and honor ABOVE the angels and to be MADE Lord, King, and God over the earth was the very day God raised the Son of MAN, Jesus from the dead and highly exalted him as a reward from obeying his God and Fathers WILL) 

8.  Ask of me, and I shall give you the heathen for your inheritance, and the uttermost parts of the earth for your possession. (Hebrews chapter 1 teaches us that BY INHERITANCE Jesus OBTAINED a more excellent name than the angels. Jesus was created at first a little LOWER than the angels and then after he was obedient to do all his God and Father's will even to suffer and die on the cross for the sins of the whole world so that whosoever should believe on God's SON might be saved Yahweh HIGHLY EXALTED His human SON and GAVE him a NAME that is ABOVE all other names so that all should bow down to the NAME to the glory of the FATHER)

9.  You shall break them with a rod of iron; You shall dash them in pieces like a potter's vessel. (The execution of the wrath of Yahweh was committed into the hands of his SON Jesus. God will come WITH Jesus, but God himself will not come down to the earth until AFTER the 1000 year reign of his ARM Jesus)

10.  Be wise now, therefore, O you kings: be instructed, you judges of the earth.

11.  Serve the LORD with fear, and rejoice with trembling.

12.  Kiss the Son, lest he is angry, and you perish from the way, when his wrath is kindled but a little. Blessed are all they that put their trust in him.”

 

I am actually surprised that I have never heard a Trinitarian argument using verses 11 and 12 to TRY and prove that the Son is Yahweh Himself saying, Serve Yahweh with fear and rejoice with trembling. Kiss the SON, as in kiss God the Son and, therefore, the SON is Yahweh, Himself as being the second person of the Trinity Godhead. I suppose they realized that the CONTEXT says, lest HE is angry and NOT lest I get angry. I suppose they see that Yahweh SET His Son to be made Yahweh’s King of kings and Lord of lords and that does not FIT their doctrine of the Trinity. Let us move on to the next Trinity argument to TRY and prove that Jesus is Yahweh Himself because to Trinitarian Christians ONLY God Himself can live without sin. And, according to the pre-existing God the Son theory, since Jesus did not sin then he MUST BE Yahweh Himself.


Jesus is sinless.

 

Jesus challenged Jewish leaders: “Which of you convicts Me of sin?” (John 8:46). The apostle Paul referred to Jesus as “Him who knew no sin” (2 Corinthians 5:21). Jesus is one who “loved righteousness and hated lawlessness” (Hebrews 1:9), was “without sin” (Hebrews 4:15), and was “holy, harmless, [and] undefiled” (Hebrews 7:26).

 

Living without sin is the whole point of Jesus being our SALVATION. God needed for a MAN, who was tempted in all points like as all other humans are tempted, but yet NOT SIN, so that this MAN, the SON OF MAN, a spotless LAMB could be crucified as an INNOCENT lamb of God to redeem or buy back mankind from Satan to give back to God. For since BY MAN came death so also BY MAN came the resurrection of the dead.

The word of TRUTH teaches us that God is NOT a MAN and that Jesus is the Son of MAN. We are also taught in God's word that there is the ONE mediator BETWEEN God and men the MAN Jesus Christ.

The Bible itself clearly and plainly teaches us that God HIMSELF cannot be tempted with evil, so it is impossible for Jesus to have been Almighty God because Jesus was tempted in ALL points even as we are tempted. Now Trinitarians argue that it was the HUMAN nature of Jesus that was tempted, but WHERE in the BIBLE ITSELF does it teach us that Jesus had TWO NATURES? This CONCEPT of Jesus having TWO natures was INVENTED to answer the questions like How could Jesus be TEMPTED if he were truly God because the Bible ITSELF says that God CANNOT be TEMPTED. It is like which came first the chicken or the egg or which came first The QUESTIONS, OR the doctrine of the trinity and the deity of Jesus to try and EXPLAIN the QUESTIONS?

 

Please read James 1:13.

 

“Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God CANNOT be tempted with evil, neither tempts he any man:”

 

Now read Hebrews 4:15.

 

“For we have not a high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in ALL points TEMPTED like as we are, yet without sin.”

 

Clearly, Jesus was TEMPTED just like we are tempted with evil and CLEARLY Almighty God Yahweh CANNOT be tempted. Therefore Jesus the SON OF Almighty God Yahweh CANNOT be Yahweh himself in the flesh being FULLY Yahweh and fully a MAN at the same time having two natures one divine and the other human-like the man-made doctrine of the deity of Jesus falsely teaches. The TWO natures of Jesus is NOT taught in the Scriptures but rather was INVENTED to EXPLAIN the QUESTIONS that arose AGAINST the doctrine of the Trinity.

Again, Trinitarians TRY to explain all these clear, plain, and simple verses that need absolutely NO interpretation to understand their crystal clear meaning away by saying things like, 'It was Jesus' HUMAN nature that was tempted and his HUMAN nature that died on the cross and his HUMAN nature that did not know when his return will be.'

But WHERE in the BIBLE ITSELF is it WRITTEN that Jesus has TWO natures? Where is it written in God's word that Jesus had a DIVINE nature? Where is it written in the word of TRUTH that Jesus is THE ALMIGHTY God? The two natures doctrine did not come into existence as church doctrine until the FOURTH-century. And, in my opinion, it was invented to combat all the Scriptural evidence AGAINST the doctrine of the Trinity.

Yes, Jesus NOW has a DIVINE nature at his Father side because his God and Father Yahweh GAVE TO his SON HAVE the DIVINE nature of IMMORTALITY. But during the days of his FLESH, Jesus did NOT have any DIVINE nature whatsoever of his OWN. But rather, Deity DWELT IN Jesus, the HUMAN SON OF the living God. Jesus was a MAN who was BEGOTTEN by God's SPOKEN word, who then was ANOINTED by his God and Father at his baptism This is what the DOCTRINE of CHRIST means in 1 John 1:6-10. The word “Christ” means ANOINTED, so Jesus Christ means Jesus ANOINTED. We will cover the meaning of what ANOINTING means more in detail further on in this study of God's word, but for now, I want to show you from God's word that WHEN Yahweh incarnated himself he stripped himself of ALL his DIVINE nature to take on HUMAN NATURE. And the spoken word of Yahweh BECAME FLESH and NOT the word became flesh and REMAINED fully DIVINE at the same time having TWO natures one divine and one human. This is MAN-MADE teaching that is NOT found in Scripture!

The TRUTH of the matter is that Philippians 2:4-11 teaches us that Jesus was in the beginning in the FORM of God meaning that Jesus was LITERALLY Almighty God Yahweh HIMSELF, as in, ONE and the SELF SAME divine eternal Spirit being, the ONE God, where the ONE God was all ALONE and by himself WITHOUT any other being WITH him at his side. 

Now, more precisely the SON was WITHIN Yahweh, the ONE God as God's IMAGE which God IMAGINED to BE. In other words. Yahweh had an image, a desire WITHIN HIMSELF to have a SON. Then when Yahweh HIMSELF literally BECAME a HUMAN being by SPEAKING forth His word or saying out of his mouth this FORM of God, His living SPOKEN word, STRIPPED ITself of ALL ITS DIVINE nature to take on HUMAN nature. This is why Jesus said that he could do NOTHING OF HIMSELF. In other words, Yahweh stripped His spoken word of ITS divine nature to take on human nature. Another way to say this is that Jesus pre-existed in the mind of Yahweh as an IMAGE. And Yahweh kept changing that IMAGE in His mind until Yahweh decided on His final IMAGE as to HOW He desired His Messiah to be. And then Yahweh SPOKE forth that IMAGE out from His own mouth and PERFORMED His own word of prophecy to bring His Messiah into existence.

Please read the CLEAR, PLAIN, and SIMPLE word of God STATES in simplicity that the word BECAME flesh and NOT that the word became a God/man having TWO natures at the SAME time, one divine, and one human.

 

John 1:14.

 

“And the Word was MADE FLESH, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only BEGOTTEN OF of the Father,) full of grace and truth.”

 

I am sorry, but I myself do NOT see TWO natures here or anywhere else in the entire Bible because this man-made doctrine of Jesus having TWO nature is NOT IN the Bible.

Also, Philippians 2:5-11 clearly teaches us that the FORM, which Jesus WAS in the beginning was indeed DIVINE, but that this DIVINE FORM LAID ASIDE, STRIPPED AWAY, and GAVE UP all his DIVINE NATURE in order to take on the NATURE of HUMAN beings. 

Again, in truth, or more precisely Jesus dwelt WITHIN the God Yahweh as being God's IMAGE, God's desire, God's joy, or as God's dream to one day have a SON to share his glory. Jesus was brought forth into existence as God's LOGOS, His SAYING, or His SPOKEN word of PROPHECY. ALL that Yahweh creates He SPEAKS into existence calling things that are not yet seen into being and Yahweh HIMSELF literally BECOMES what He speaks forth. So in a sense, one could argue that EVERYTHING is DIVINE like the New Age movement but the word of TRUTH teaches us that this divine form called SPIRIT stripped himself of ALL his DIVINE nature when he BECOMES what he desires to be become or be brought into existence. More precisely, Yahweh stripped the MORPHING IMAGE in His MIND until God formed that perfect IMAGE of what He desired His Messiah and King to be like. Here is how E-Sword defines the Greek word translated as the FORM of God.

 

G3444

μορφή

morphē

mor-fay'

Perhaps from the base of G3313 (through the idea of adjustment of parts); shape; figuratively nature: - form.

 

Yahweh kept ADJUSTING the IMAGE in His mind by changing his thoughts to IMAGINE His perfect Son. And rather than starting with a divine all-powerful divine immortal Son, Yahweh FORMED the image of a HUMAN Son FIRST who would be lower and inferior to the angels. God carefully FORMED every step of His cleverly devised PLAN of salvation. And when Yahweh was satisfied with the final FORM Yahweh spoke forth that IMAGE as being stripped of any divine nature so that Yahweh’s FIRSTBORN Son would NOT have any advantage over all of His MANY Sons and daughters that were ALSO in God’s MIND and PLAN to be saved IN His Son, Jesus ANOINTED.

Please read Philippians 2:5-11 from several different translations to see that Almighty God HIMSELF through his SPOKEN word BECAME, as in, TRULY BECAME a HUMAN being, the Son of MAN. 

 

Here is Philippians 2:5-11 from the Complete Jerusalem Bible.

 

“Let your attitude toward one another be governed by your being in union with the Messiah Yeshua:

6. Though he was in the form of God, he did not regard equality with God something to be possessed by force.

7. On the CONTRARY, he EMPTIED himself, in that he took the form of a slave by becoming like human beings are. And when he appeared as a human being,

8. he humbled himself still more by becoming obedient even to death - death on a stake as a criminal!

9. Therefore (Or for this very reason of the Son of God becoming OBEDIENT unto death and OVERCOMING the temptations of the enemy) God raised him to the highest place and gave him the name above every name;

10. that in honor of the name given Yeshua, every knee will bow - in heaven, on earth, and under the earth

11. and every tongue will acknowledge that Yeshua the Messiah is ADONAI - to the glory of God the Father.”

 

Here is Philippians 2:5-11 from the Holman Christian Standard.

 

“Make your own attitude that of Christ Jesus,

6. who, existing in the form of God, did not consider equality with God as something to be used for His own advantage.

7. INSTEAD, He EMPTIED Himself by assuming the form of a slave, taking on the likeness of men. And when He had COME as a MAN in His external form,

8. He humbled Himself by becoming obedient to the point of death-even to death on a cross.

9. For this reason, God also HIGHLY EXALTED Him and gave Him the name that is above every name,

10. so that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow- of those who are in heaven and on earth and under the earth-

11. and every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.”

 

Here is Philippians 2:5-11 from the New Revised Standard Translation.

 

“Let the same mind be in you that was in Christ Jesus,

6. who, though he was in the form of God, did not regard equality with God as something to be exploited,

7. BUT EMPTIED himself, taking the form of a slave, being BORN in human likeness. And BEING found in HUMAN FORM,

8. he humbled himself and became obedient to the point of death— even death on a cross.

9. THEREFORE God also HIGHLY EXALTED him and gave him the name that is above every name,

10. so that at the name of Jesus every knee should bend, in heaven and on earth and under the earth,

11. and every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.”

 

Here is Philippians 2:5-11 from the Message Bible.

 

Think of yourselves the WAY Christ Jesus thought of himself.

6. He had equal status with God but didn't think so much of himself that he had to cling to the advantages of that status no matter what.

7. Not at all. When the time came, he SET ASIDE the privileges of DEITY and took on the status of a slave, BECAME HUMAN!

8. Having BECOME HUMAN, he STAYED human. It was an incredibly humbling process. He didn't claim special privileges. Instead, he lived a selfless, obedient life and then died a selfless, obedient death - and the worst kind of death at that: a crucifixion.

9. Because of that obedience, God lifted him high and honored him far beyond anyone or anything, ever,

10. so that all created beings in heaven and on earth - even those long ago dead and buried - will bow in worship before this Jesus Christ,  

11. and call out in praise that he is the Master of all, to the glorious honor of God the Father.”

 

 Here is Philippians 2:5-11 from the Weymouth New Testament.

 

Let the SAME disposition be in YOU which was in Christ Jesus.

6. Although from the beginning He had the nature of God He did not reckon His equality with God a treasure to be tightly grasped.

7. NAY, He STRIPPED Himself of His glory and took on Him the nature of a bondservant by BECOMING a MAN like other men.

8. And being recognized as TRULY HUMAN, He humbled Himself and even stooped to die; yes, to die on a cross

9. It is in consequence of this that God has also so highly exalted Him, and has conferred on Him the Name which is supreme above every other,

10. in order that in the Name of JESUS every knee should bow, of beings in Heaven, of those on the earth, and of those in the underworld,

11. and that every tongue should confess that JESUS CHRIST is LORD, to the glory of God the Father.”

 

So then, in the LIGHT of the REST of God's word we can clearly see that Yahweh HIMSELF literally becomes who he is becoming BY speaking forth OUT OF his MOUTH the IMAGE in the FROM of his very own self-same word or saying that is WITHIN himself which he desires to BE brought into existence where it has never existed before EXCEPT as Yahweh himself being the desire or IMAGE WITHIN Yahweh as his desire to BE. So what God was his word was. God's word, His saying, His logos, His SPOKEN word has LIFE in itself. God's speech is alive or living or quickens or makes alive. God's word gives life. God creates by speaking or calling things that are not yet existing into existence. God calls things that are not as though they already are by speaking them forth out of his mouth just as though they already are. This is why some of the PROPHECY in the Old Testament about God's yet coming human Son SEEMS as if God's Son was already by His side when God created the foundations of the world. We will cover those verses as well further on in this study of God's word, but for now, let us move on to the next argument used to try and prove that Jesus is fully Yahweh and a man at the same time having TWO natures one divine and one human.

 

Jesus Possesses the Authority of God.


Jesus always spoke in His own divine authority. He never said, “Thus saith the Lord” as did the prophets; He always said, “Verily, verily, I say unto you....” He never retracted anything He said, never guessed or spoke with uncertainty, never made revisions, never contradicted himself, and never apologized for what He said. He even asserted, “Heaven and earth will pass away, but My words will by no means pass away” (Mark 13:31), hence elevating His words directly to the realm of heaven.

 

Yes, it is true that Jesus never used the exact words, “Thus saith the LORD...” but Jesus HIMSELF made it PERFECTLY clear that he was NOT speaking for HIMSELF, or speaking OF himself. But rather, the SON was speaking FOR his God and Father Yahweh who SENT or COMMISSIONED him to reveal to us the FATHER to be the one true and only ALMIGHTY and SOVEREIGN God. Please read the following verses of Scripture. Jesus had no power and authority of his OWN. The power and authority was GIVEN unto him BY his God and Father who alone is the ONLY TRUE God, according to John 17:1-3.

 

John 7:15,16.

 

“And the Jews marveled, saying, HOW knows this MAN letters, having never learned?

16. Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is NOT MINE, but HIS that SENT me.”

 

John 7:28,29.

 

“Then cried Jesus in the temple as he taught, saying, You both know me, and you know whence I am: and I have NOT come OF MYSELF, but HE that SENT me is TRUE, whom you know not.

29. But I know him: for I am FROM Him, and He has sent me.”

 

Please notice that Jesus did NOT say that he himself IS HIM or is Yahweh, but rather that he was FROM Yahweh. In John 16:27 and 17:8 we read that Jesus himself said that he CAME OUT FROM God the Father.

 

John 16:27.

 

“For the Father himself loves you, BECAUSE you have loved me, AND have BELIEVED that I CAME OUT FROM God.

 

John 17:8.

 

“For I have given unto them the WORDS which YOU GAVE ME; and they have received them, and have KNOWN SURELY that I CAME OUT FROM You, and they have believed that you did send me.”

 

Again, please read the entire study “JOHN 16:27,28 JESUS CAME OUT FROM GOD!” for a sound Biblical teaching on HOW the SON OF God CAME OUT FROM God. But for now, let us read yet another verse that Jesus does not say the exact same identical words, “Thus saith the LORD...” but does indeed clearly and plainly in SIMPLICITY with no interpretation needed to teach us that the words of Jesus words were NOT his OWN words, but the very words of YAHWEH HIMSELF the God and Father OF his SON Jesus. 

 

Please read John 14:24.

 

“He that loves me not keeps not MY sayings: and the WORD which you hear is NOT MINE, but the Father's which SENT (or COMMISSIONED) me.”

 

In other words, the words of Jesus are indeed “Thus says the LORD God Yahweh the Father of ALL” even though Jesus never used those EXACT words. Jesus was the PROPHET of God as well as being the Messiah of God and the Son of God. And the PROPHET of God does NOT speak his OWN words. A prophet speaks in the authority of Yahweh and NOT is his OWN authority. So you see dear children of God how cherry-picking only certain verses can be made to say whatever one FORCES them to say when they are viewed ALONE and APART for the REST of God's word.

So then, when Jesus said MY words shall not pass away, Jesus was NOT saying that he himself was Yahweh. For you see, when we interpret this verse in the LIGHT of the WHOLE word of God we can clearly see that the words of Jesus were NOT his OWN words. But rather, the words Jesus spoke were the words of HIS God and Father Yahweh, who alone is the ONE true and ONLY ALMIGHTY God. Jesus came in the NAME of the Lord the same as we come in the NAME of Jesus.

We as Christians have been GIVEN that AUTHORITY to speak the word of God over the enemy and the enemy, Satan, the Devil must obey OUR words coming out of OUR mouth, because in truth they are God's words and NOT our OWN words. We already cover this, but just to refresh your memory Jesus was GIVEN all AUTHORITY and GIVEN all POWER by Yahweh his God and Father AFTER the cross. So NO, Jesus having the authority of God that was GIVEN to him BY God does NOT prove that Jesus is Yahweh Himself any more than it proves WE are Yahweh.

 

Jesus Performs the Works of God.

 

Jesus’ deity is also proved by His miracles. His miracles are often called “signs” in the New Testament. Signs always signify something—in this case, that Jesus is the divine Messiah.

Some of Jesus’ more notable miracles include turning water into wine (John 2:7–8); walking on the sea (Matthew 14:25; Mark 6:48; John 6:19); calming a stormy sea (Matthew 8:26; Mark 4:39; Luke 8:24); feeding 5,000 men and their families (Matthew 14:19; Mark 6:41; Luke 9:16; John 6:11); raising Lazarus from the dead (John 11:43–44); and causing the disciples to catch a great number of fish (Luke 5:5–6).

 

No true born again Christian will ever argue that Jesus worked many miracles. So then, the issue here is not whether or not Jesus worked miracles, but rather, does that fact that Jesus worked miracles prove that Jesus is Yahweh Himself? So the argument here is that if one works miracles then that one MUST, without fail, be ALMIGHTY God HIMSELF, because ONLY God can work miracles. Yes, ONLY Yahweh can work miracles is indeed a true statement but that statement can be very misleading and even deceptive when this argument is used ALONE and APART from the rest of God's word.

WE work miracles but it is not actually us doing the miracles. It is God IN us doing the works of healing. And the SAME is true of Jesus. What I mean by this is that ALL that Jesus did, he did THROUGH the power of the ONE eternal Spirit who DWELT IN him. We have already covered many of these verses, but I will again quote John 5:19,20, and I will add John 8:28. Now some Trinitarians use John 8:28 to try and prove that Jesus is the great I AM THAT I AM Himself and use FEAR to intimidate Christians to believe their man-made doctrines by dogmatically demanding that if we do not believe that Jesus is Yahweh Himself in the flesh being fully God and fully man at the same time having two natures one divine and one human, then we shall die in our sins just like Jesus said in John 8:28.

 

John 5:19,30.

 

“Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The SON can do nothing OF HIMSELF, but what he sees the Father do: for what things soever he does these also does the Son likewise...

30. I can OF MY OWN SELF DO NOTHING: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not my own will, but the will of the Father which has sent me.”

 

John 8:28.

 

“Then said Jesus unto them, When you have lifted up the Son of man, then shall you know that I am he and that I DO NOTHING OF MYSELF; but as my Father has taught me, I speak these things.”

 

Also, read John 10:38, which teaches us that the WORKS Jesus did was a SIGN the Yahweh was WITH Jesus and Jesus clearly and plainly teaches us HOW God was WITH him by stating in SIMPLICITY that the Father DWELT IN him.

 

John 10:38.

 

“But if I do, though you believe not me, believe the WORKS: that you may KNOW, and BELIEVE, (Know and believe WHAT? The man-made doctrine that Jesus IS Yahweh HIMSELF? Or what the word of TRUTH clearly and plainly teach us in SIMPLICITY?) that the Father is IN me, and I in him.”

 

The WORKS were a SIGN that Yahweh DWELT IN His anointed human SON Jesus and NOT that Jesus himself is Yahweh HIMSELF. Jesus said the SAME WORKS that he did WE, who BELIEVE, shall do ALSO, NOT because WE are Yahweh, but rather, because Yahweh DWELLS in us as believers on his SON Jesus.

As I said a moment ago that some trinitarian teachers use John 8:24 and 28 to TRY and prove that Jesus is claiming that he himself is the great I AM THAT I AM of the Old Testament by Jesus saying “...If you do NOT believe I AM, then you shall remain dead in your sins.” 

 

Here is John 8:24 again from the Good News translation which is a very BIAS translation pushing the doctrine of the Trinity.

 

That is why I told you that you will die in your sins. And you will die in your sins if you do not believe that ‘I Am Who I Am’.

 

Some other translations have capitalized these words of Jesus saying “I am he” as “I Am” and “I AM” without indicating that the word he was added by the translators to be better understood in English that Jesus is the ONE prophesied to come. And the reason WHY some translations capitalize I Am or I AM is so that they can try and make Jesus be the great I AM THAT I AM in Exodus 3:14.

This is called TWISTING the scriptures to force them to say what you want them to say. It is NO better than churches like the Jehovah's Witnesses printing their OWN Bibles to fit their own private interpretations.

But when we interpret these words of Jesus being LEFT in their CONTEXT and compare scripture with scripture it becomes very clear that Jesus is NOT claiming to be Yahweh HIMSELF but rather Jesus is saying that those who do not believe that Jesus is the CHRIST, the ANOINTED one,  the SON OF the living God shall die in their sins.

 

Please read John 8:23-32.

 

“And he said unto them, You are from beneath; I am from above: you are of this world; I am not of this world. 

 

Jesus is talking to NON-believers here who were not yet born of God by the word of God. Please see John 17:14-18 where Jesus himself teaches us what he means by saying that he is not of this world.

 

John 17:14-18.

 

 “I have given them YOUR word; and the world has hated them, because they are NOT OF the world, EVEN AS I am not of the world.

15. I pray not that you should take them out of the world, but that you should keep them from the evil.

16. They are NOT OF the world, EVEN AS I am not of the world.

17. Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.

18.  As you have sent me into the world, even so have I also sent them into the world.” (Jesus says that WE, as BELIEVERS in him, are NOT of this world EVEN AS Jesus himself is not of this world. So Jesus is NOT saying here that he descended down out of heaven to be born of a woman, but rather that he was BORN of God from above and born not of a man beneath. You see Jesus knew that the Scriptures spoke of him and that his human BIRTH was NOT like all other humans, but rather that he was born from ABOVE. Please read the three-part study WHEN DID JESUS BECOME GOD'S ETERNAL SON?” and also read WHAT DOES GOD INCARNATE MEAN?)

24. I said therefore unto you, that you shall die in your sins: for if you believe not that I am he, you shall die in your sins. (Now, we can know absolutely for sure that Jesus is NOT claiming that he is the great I AM THAT I AM by reading the CONTEXT so keep reading)

25. Then said they unto him, WHO ARE YOU? And Jesus saith unto them (Or Jesus answered their question as to WHO he was saying), Even the SAME that I said unto you from the BEGINNING.

26. I have many things to say and to judge of you: but HE that SENT me is TRUE; and I speak to the world those things which I have heard of HIM.

27. They understood not that he spoke to them of the FATHER.

28. Then said Jesus unto them, WHEN you have lifted up the Son of man, THEN shall you KNOW that I am he, (He WHO? The one PROPHESIED to come, the CHRIST, the SON OF the living God) and that I do NOTHING OF MYSELF; but as my Father has taught me, I speak these things.

29. And HE that SENT me is WITH me: the Father has not left me ALONE; for I do always those things that please him.

30. As he spoke these words, many believed on him.

31. Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If you CONTINUE in my word, THEN are you, my disciples, indeed;

32. And you shall know the TRUTH, and the TRUTH shall make you free.”

 

You see dear children of God many Christians, who are indeed made free from the dominion of sin by the sacrifice Jesus made for them to be free are NOT continuing in the TRUTH to be made FREE by the TRUTH. In other words. some Christians are still living in the BONDAGE of SIN sinning every day even many multiple times every day because they have been BLINDED by FALSE teaching that ONLY Jesus can live without sin because Jesus is Yahweh himself in the flesh. Nearly every trinitarian I know blames their sinning on being HUMAN not KNOWING the TRUTH that Jesus was HUMAN just as we and that Jesus overcame sin BY or THROUGH the eternal Spirit, who DWELT IN him, which is the SAME ANOINTING, who NOW DWELLS IN US as believers to EMPOWER US to live FREE from sin.

This is one of the very reasons why I have so many IN-DEPTH Bible study here at AmatterOfTruth.com that expose FALSE teachings in the church. It is because false teaching keeps Christians BONDAGE to serve the devil and be oppressed by the devil blindly accepting sickness and disease BLAMING God for sending those oppression of the devil upon them. And then they blame their HUMAN NATURE for why they are still sinning ACCEPTING sinning as a FACT of life ignoring the words of Jesus and his disciples teaching us that we have been made FREE from sin and sin has NO MORE DOMINION OVER US. And a further excuse they use for sinning is that ONLY Jesus could live without sin BECAUSE he is God. Can you not see how false teaching KEEPS Christians under the bondage of sin? Please read the study “HOW YOU CAN LIVE YOUR LIFE FREE FROM SIN!”, but for now, let us move on to the next argument made to try and prove that Jesus is Yahweh himself.

 

Jesus Is Worshiped as God.

 

Jesus was worshiped on many occasions in the New Testament. (11 times) He accepted worship from Thomas (John 20:28), the angels (Hebrews 1:6), some wise men (Matthew 2:11), a leper (Matthew 8:2), a ruler (Matthew 9:18), a blind man (John 9:38), an anonymous woman (Matthew 15:25), Mary Magdalene (Matthew 28:9), and the disciples (Matthew 28:17).

Scripture is emphatic that only God can be worshiped (Exodus 34:14; Deuteronomy 6:13; Matthew 4:10). In view of this, the fact that both humans and angels worshiped Jesus on numerous occasions shows He is God.

 

Even though we have already gone over this point earlier in the study of God's word examining this article on the Trinity in the LIGHT of the WHOLE word of God we will again cover this Trinity and Deity of Jesus argument: that since Jesus was worshiped and ONLY GOD can be worship, then Jesus MUST be Yahweh HIMSELF. For all SIX different Greek words that are TRANSLATED as “worship” please read the study “SHOULD WE WORSHIP JESUS?” Absolutely, because God COMMANDS us to worship His Son. People bowed to people and worshipped them but it was NOT the same kind of worship that they worshipped God.

I also have a study entirely devoted to John 20:28 where Thomas says. “My Lord and my God” which gives an in-depth understanding of all the possible interpretations of this verse. Please read the study “JOHN 20:28 MY LORD AND MY GOD!” for all the verses, but for now, I will give just one of the MANY possible interpretations of this verse that do NOT contradict any other part of God's word. One meaning could very well be that the disciples of Jesus knew from the Old Testament that Jesus was called God by his God and Father and that in the world to come he will be WORSHIPED as God during his 1000 year reign.

Now, from Acts 1:6,7 we see that the disciples did not yet understand WHEN the restoration of all things was going to begin. So in their minds, they were thinking that the kingdom of God was going to be restored to Israel in their day, especially AFTER Jesus was raised from the dead and he was showing himself to be alive forevermore never to die again.

 

Acts 1:6,7

 

“When they therefore came together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, will you AT THIS TIME restore again the kingdom to Israel? 

7.  And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father has put in HIS OWN power.”

 

First of all, this verse again clearly teaches us that Jesus is NOT Yahweh himself clearly seeing in SIMPLICITY that Jesus was NOT given the power and understanding to KNOW when the kingdom of Israel would be restored and that this knowledge was in Almighty God the Father's OWN power.

But my main point is that the disciples were under the IMPRESSION that the world to come was BEGINNING in their day right AFTER Jesus was raised from the dead. So then, AFTER doubting Thomas saw with his own eyes that Jesus had indeed been raised from the dead he said to Jesus my Lord and my God THINKING that the world to come had just begun and Jesus was going to begin his RULE as the God of the earth ruling FOR Yahweh as the ARM of Yahweh as the scriptures prophesied in Isaiah.

 

Please read Isaiah 40:10.

 

“Behold, the Lord GOD will come with a strong hand, and his ARM shall RULE FOR for him: behold, his reward is with him, and his work before him.”

 

The Son of God is the right hand or the right ARM of Almighty God the Father, who will rule and reign FOR Yahweh for 1000 years while the Father rests or ceases for all his works on the seventh 1000 year long day of the Lord. Then after the 1000 year reign of Jesus over his Father's kingdom sitting on this Father's throne Jesus will commit the kingdom of God back into his Father's hands and be subject unto his God and Father so that the Father may be all in all once again.

The disciples of Jesus knew that Jesus was God's SON and that he was NOT Almighty God HIMSELF. They knew the prophecies concerning God's SON and that he would be called God in the world to come and that the Father would have even the angels to worship his SON in the world to come. 

Now. this is NOT the ONLY possible interpretation of this verse, but at least worshiping Jesus as a lesser God who will rule FOR Yahweh during the 1000 year reign of his SON Jesus is NOT the same as giving worship to a mere man off the street so to speak. When I teach that Jesus is a human being ANOINTED by his God and Father please understand that I am NOT saying that Jesus is a “MERE” man just like every other human being. NO many thousands of times no! I teach that Jesus is indeed a UNIQUE human being. Jesus was MADE to become PREEMINENT over and above all human beings and the angels for 1000 years. But this does NOT mean that ONLY Jesus can live without sin. I cover all these things in other studies. I teach that I myself worship Jesus and I try and make it clear to my readers that the Bible itself teaches us that we are to honor the Son of God EVEN AS we honor the Father. We are not worshiping Jesus as a MAN, but rather, as a God, whom his God and Father HIGHLY EXALTED to become a “THEOS” or and “EL” or “ELOHIM” meaning a God UNDER and SUBJECT to Yahweh himself. And we are worshiping Jesus, the SON OF Almighty God TO the glory OF the Father just like the word of truth teaches us

Now, the Bible does teach us that men were worshiped in the Old Testament and that even WE will be worshiped in the world to come. But this is NOT how we are taught in the New Testament to worship Jesus. It is true that men shall worship us in the world to come, but NOT in the same manner as they will worship God's, Son Jesus. First read Revelation 3:8,9 where in the world yet to come Jesus himself will make men WORSHIP US at our feet.

 

Revelation 3:8,9.

 

“I know your works: behold, I have set before you an open door, and no man can shut it: for you have a little strength, and have kept my word, and have not denied my name. (so Jesus is speaking to us as believers saying)

9.  Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them come and WORSHIP BEFORE YOUR FEET, and to know that I have loved YOU.”

 

So NO, the WHOLE word of God does NOT emphatically teach us that ONLY the ONE true and ONLY Almighty God can be worshiped. There are many different forms or levels of worship. Now again let me make this as clear as possible that all the worship given to Jesus is TO the GLORY OF the FATHER, but not all worship of men gives God glory. 

In other words, in the Old Testament kings were worshiped and God did receive glory because he himself set those kings in place. But when a king disobeyed God and they were still worshiped, then God did NOT receive any glory.

My main point is that one MUST INTERPRET the LEVEL of worship given to Jesus and not just dogmatically demand that Jesus was worshiped in the exact same LEVEL of worship that Yahweh is worshiped. You see dear children of God there is nothing in the WORD “WORSHIP” itself that clearly beyond any shadow of a doubt assures us that it is the SAME LEVEL of worship given to Jesus as it is given to Yahweh. It is ONLY one's OWN personal interpretation or OPINION.

Please allow me to explain this further. What I mean by “LEVEL” of worship given to God's SON is NOT a level of DEGREE where our worship to Jesus is less SIGNIFICANT or not as important, or less in QUALITY, but rather what I mean by level is that of authority. Now what do I mean by this? 

By level of authority, I mean that Almighty God himself is OVER his Son Jesus even though the Father GAVE all authority and power TO his SON Jesus and ALSO committed ALL judgment TO his Son so that men would honor his Son EVEN AS they honor the Father. In other words, AS we honor, worship, praise, give glory to, give thanks to Jesus we honor, worship, praise, give thanks to and give glory TO the FATHER

If we have the Son, then we have the Father. And if one does NOT honor the Son then they do NOT honor the Father either. In fact, they DISHONOR Almighty God the Father by NOT honoring and worshiping his Son Jesus.

Now, if you are so stubborn to continue to dogmatically demand that there is absolutely no other way to interpret the worship of Jesus other than being on the exact same level of worshiping Yahweh so you can justify Jesus being Yahweh himself saying that ONLY Yahweh can receive worship, then I implore you to consider that God IS God and he can do whatever HE chooses to do. Therefore if Almighty God HIMSELF has chosen to have a Son and then to highly exalt his Son Jesus giving his Son a name above every other name to be WORSHIPED, then who are YOU to say that Jesus cannot be worship if he was ONLY a MAN, who was highly exalted by his God and Father? 

Please understand that I am speaking to those Christians, who REFUSE to worship Jesus, saying that Jesus is ONLY the SON OF God and only Yahweh is to be worshiped. And I am speaking to ONENESS believers who do NOT see that Jesus is a distinctly DIFFERENT person or being FROM Yahweh. I want my readers who are Oneness believers to ALSO see that I and many other Christians worship Jesus as God SON and NOT as Jesus being Almighty God the Father Himself, but rather we worship Jesus in obedience to God word giving GLORY TO the Father when we worship his SON as a distinctly different person FROM the Father.

And then I am speaking to those who believe in the doctrine of the trinity where Jesus is NOT the Father, but YET ALSO teach that Jesus IS ALMIGHTY God HIMSELF and thereby you are NOT worshiping Jesus TO the GLORY OF Almighty God the Father to hold the distinction of the Son from the Father, but rather you worship Jesus AS one and the self-same being AS Almighty God HIMSELF, who the Bible itself clear identifies as being the FATHER.

Jesus was, IS now, and will be worshiped in the world to come BECAUSE it is Yahweh's WILL for his SON to be worshiped, honored, praised, and glorified even as we worship, honor, praise and glorify the Father. This was PROPHESIED in Isaiah when Yahweh said that he would not share His glory with ANOTHER. Please read Isaiah 42:1-9 where Yahweh is PROPHESYING of doing a NEW THING. In other words, in the OLD Testament under the OLD Covenant ONLY, Yahweh was worshiped and God did NOT SHARE his glory with ANYONE. But God is PROPHESYING that he is going to do a NEW thing in Isaiah 42:1-9.

 

Isaiah 42:1-9.

 

“Behold my servant, whom I  (Yahweh) uphold; mine elect, (Or the one who I Yahweh have CHOSEN) in whom my soul delights; I have put my spirit upon him: he shall bring forth judgment to the Gentiles.

2. He shall not cry, nor lift up, nor cause his voice to be heard in the street.

3. A bruised reed shall he not break, and the smoking flax shall he not quench: he shall bring forth judgment unto truth.

4. He shall not fail nor be discouraged, till he has set judgment in the earth: and the isles shall wait for his law.

5. Thus says God the LORD (Thus he says the El Yahweh or the MIGHTY ONE Yahweh) HE that created the heavens, and stretched them out; he that spread forth the earth, and that which comes out of it; he that gives breath unto the people upon it, and spirit to them that walk therein: (Here we see that it is Yahweh, who created all things and gives life and spirit to all)

6. I the LORD (Yahweh) have called YOU (This is a PROPHECY that came out from Yahweh speaking to his SON Jesus as he reads the scriptures and perceives that the scriptures speak of him knowing and understanding that his God and Father is calling him) in righteousness, and will hold your hand, and will keep you, and give YOU for a covenant of the people, for a light of the Gentiles;

7. To open the blind eyes, to bring out the prisoners from the prison, and them that sit in darkness out of the prison house. (Jesus HIMSELF quoted these verses from Isaiah at the very BEGINNING of his ministry saying this is FULFILLED in your ears. Jesus had just returned from being baptized by John and the Holy Spirit coming down in the form of a dove to REMAIN on Jesus saying that God has ANOINTED him meaning that he was the CHRIST, the ANOINTED one prophesied to come.

 

Please read Luke 4:16- 21.

 

“And he came to Nazareth, where he had been brought up: and, as his custom was, he went into the synagogue on the Sabbath day, and stood up to read.

7. And there was delivered unto him the book of the prophet Esaias. (Isaiah) And when he had opened the book, he found the place where it was written,

18. The Spirit of the Lord is upon me because he has anointed (Or EMPOWERED. Jesus told his disciple not to go out and preach the gospel UNTIL they are endued with POWER from on high) me to preach the gospel to the poor; he has sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised,

19. To preach the acceptable year of the Lord.

20. And he closed the book, and he gave it again to the minister, and sat down. And the eyes of all them that were in the synagogue were fastened on him.

21. And he began to say unto them, THIS DAY is this scripture fulfilled in your ears.”

 

Please read Isaiah 42:8,9.

 

“I am the LORD, (or I am YHWH or I am YAHWEH also known by some as I am Yahoveh, Jahovah, or Jehovah) that is my NAME: and my glory will I not give to another, neither my praise to graven images.

9. Behold, the FORMER THINGS are come to pass, (Or the FORMER things will be coming to an end, and NEW THINGS do I declare: before they spring forth I tell you of them.”

 

One of the FORMER things that would be coming to pass or pass away or end is that God is PROPHESYING here that he is going to SHARE his GLORY with ANOTHER as being a NEW THING that he is telling us that he is going to do BEFORE the NEW THINGS spring forth.

Now, the Old English here may sound to some that God will not share his glory with ANYONE. But in TRUTH the literal meaning of this verse says that one of the NEW THINGS that Yahweh is prophesying is that he is not going to share his glory with any other than his ELECT one, whom he has ANOINTED. Namely the elect in this context is speaking of Yahweh's SON Jesus, but can also be interpreted to include us as believers in the SON OF God as well.

Also, another NEW THING that God is PROPHESYING here is having a SON yet in the future, whom Yahweh will ANOINT and be WITH by DWELLING IN his SON Jesus. Remember that the CONTEXT here says, and NEW THINGS do I declare: BEFORE they spring forth or before they take place I tell you of them.

So then, for Jesus to be worshiped does NOT prove that Jesus is Yahweh HIMSELF, because God is doing a NEW THING that was NOT done under the OLD covenant where Yahweh allowed ONLY HIMSELF to be worshiped. When you read and interpret verses in the LIGHT of the WHOLE word of God it becomes clear that Yahweh created all things FOR the SAKE of his yet unborn Son much like EXPECTING parents plan and prepare a room or place for their yet unborn child.

 

Please take a close look at Proverbs 8:22-31.

 

“The LORD (Referring to YAHWEH the Lord God Almighty who is the FATHER alone) possessed (which means acquired, bought, purchased redeemed, brought forth into existence, formed, or created) ME (Jesus, the SON OF God) in the beginning of his way, (All of these meanings of God ACQUIRING his SON teach us that Jesus not only had a BEGINNING but also that this passage of Scripture is PROPHECY of yet a future fulfillment concerning Jesus and NOT teaching us of a literal PREEXISTING Jesus) before his WORKS of old. (The meaning of the word “WORKS” here LITERALLY means PRECEDING his CONTRIVANCES of old. And this word contrivance means that God had his Son in MIND preceding his CLEVERLY DEVISED ingenious PLAN, which was to have an INNOCENT MAN be SLAIN without cause so he could redeem or but back his NEW creation called the HUMAN that he has not yet created PRECEDING the foundation of the world. You see dear children of God, the creation of a NEW species of being called the humans a little lower or inferior to his previous creation the ANGELS was a NEW thing. You see, 1/3 of the angels rebelled against God under the leadership of Lucifer, now known as Satan or the Devil is WHY God needed an ingenious plan of salvation to RESTORE things back to having NO evil. God’s ingenious PLAN was also to prove that he created Lucifer perfect in all his ways. And thus, God will clear his own name for his own sake that was being defamed by the false accusation from Lucifer BLAMING God for his own prideful sin saying God created him evil and it was not his fault therefore God has no right to judge him. Please read the study UNDERSTANDING WHY? for the BIG picture and all the verses that answer many, many questions Christian have such as WHY does God allow evil in the world? Please understand that this verse like all verses must be interpreted in the LIGHT of the WHOLE word of God and AGREE with the rest of God's word. If one interprets this verse alone and apart from the rest of God's word it may SEEM that Jesus was brought forth BEFORE the foundation of the world and was LITERALLY by the side of God as a SECOND person or being as God's Son. However in the light of the WHOLE word of God which you will see that the correct meaning of this verse is that Jesus is God FIRST DESIRE WITHIN himself to have a SON BEFORE God begins creating or preparing a PLACE FOR his Son, which is the world. You see dear child of God, it is like proud EXPECTING parents awaiting their unborn child who are PREPARING a room for their YET COMING child)

23. I was set up (This word has several meanings which are #1 God INAUGURATE his Son or APPOINTED his Son to be a King of kings) from everlasting, from the beginning, or ever the earth was. (Also, this word translated as set up in the King James version also carries the meaning of being POURED OUT as a drink offering is poured out. So when we take this meaning and compare it to the Scripture that teaches us that Jesus is the LAMB that was SLAIN from BEFORE the foundation of the world we can see that Proverbs 8:22-31 is a PROPHECY about a YET FUTURE fulfillment from the time it was SPOKEN by God and then written down by men of old. We all KNOW that Jesus was NOT LITERALLY SLAIN BEFORE the foundation of the world, and in the same way Jesus did NOT LITERALLY PREEXIST by the side of God BEFORE the foundation of the world. But rather the SON OF God dwelt in God's MIND or WITHIN God before the foundation of the world and it was AS IF his Son was BY his side where God had WITHIN him an IMAGE of his yet FUTURE Son before the foundation of the world So please humor me and read these verse seeing God as a proud parent EXPECTING his yet UNBORN child and God is preparing a place, the world, FOR or FOR the SAKE OF his yet future unborn SON who is yet to be brought into existence)

24. When there were no depths, I was brought forth; (The LITERAL meaning of this word “brought forth” means TRAVAILED as a woman in labor pains about to BIRTH a yet unborn child. This word also means to WAIT PATIENTLY or to look for teaching us again that Jesus, the SON OF God was still yet WITHIN the God who was anxiously AWAITING his Son to be brought forth or born of the Virgin Mary and then to be the FIRSTBORN from the dead to forever be God's Son by his side LITERALLY. So all these words teach us that Jesus was BEING brought forth in the MIND of God as part of God's CONTRIVANCE to prove to Lucifer, the fallen angels and to the good angels that ALL that God creates is PERFECT and he has every right to judge Lucifer and the fallen angels. And all this is taking place in God's MIND BEFORE the recreation of the earth that was destroyed or made waste in the WAR between God and the fallen angels who were trying to take over God's throne. Again please read the study UNDERSTANDING WHY? for all the verses that show what I am saying about this war or rebellion of Lucifer and the fallen angels. But for now please understand that God was TRAVAILING or if you will PREGNANT with his yet unborn SON) when there were no fountains abounding with water.

25. Before the mountains were settled, before the hills was I brought forth: (Same as above, which means that Jesus was yet in the womb of God's MIND and deep DESIRE WITHIN himself BEING brought forth into existence. Remember Exodus 3:14 where God says “I AM THAT I AM”, which LITERALLY means “I SHALL BECOME WHO or WHAT I AM BECOMING”)

26. While as yet HE (Almighty God) had not made the earth, nor the fields, nor the highest part of the dust of the world. (Now those who teach the PREEXISTENCE of Jesus also teach that Jesus HIMSELF created ALL things, but ALL the verses in the OLD Testament CLEARLY and PLAINLY in SIMPLICITY teach us that Almighty God himself ALONE and by HIMSELF created ALL things. Please read the study EPHESIANS 3:9-11---DID JESUS CREATE ALL THINGS? for a sound Biblical teaching letting the Bible speak for ITSELF clearly showing that Almighty God HIMSELF created ALL things FOR or FOR the SAKE of his SON Jesus, just like Proverbs 8:22-31 is teaching us)

27. When HE (Almighty God himself) prepared the heavens, I was there, (Meaning the Jesus was there in his THOUGHTS and DESIRES WITHIN himself as if I was literally by his side while HE was PREPARING a place for ME) when HE set a compass upon the face of the depth: (The LITERAL meaning of God setting a COMPASS upon the face of the deep is INTO DELINEATE OF HIM, which means that God is drawing out, sketching out, making a blueprint, designing WITHIN himself in his THOUGHTS and IMAGINING how he will prepare this place for his yet unborn SON. This word DELINEATE also means to PICTURE is WORDS or to PORTRAY in WORDS. In other words, God was PICTURING in his MIND within himself FORMING words WITHIN himself to portray the IMAGE that was WITHIN himself to bring it forth into existence, and Jesus his yet unborn Son was the CENTER of this IMAGE that God had within himself. God was designing a PORTRAIT of the IMAGE within himself to CREATE)

28: When HE established the clouds above: when HE strengthened the fountains of the deep:

29. When HE gave to the sea HIS decree, that the waters should not pass HIS commandment: when HE appointed (DESIGNED or delineated in himself ) the foundations of the earth:

30. Then I was by him, AS ONE one brought up WITH him: (Now these last two verse clearly teach us that this passage of scripture is a PROPHECY of the future fulfillment of God's SON being brought forth into existence and that it was AS IF Jesus was by his side WHILE God was PREPARING the world FOR or FOR the SAKE OF his yet unborn Son. Please notice in the next verse that Jesus was REJOICING IN the habitable part of the EARTH that had NOT YET been created as yet, but was still yet in the MIND and PLAN of God WITHIN himself yet to be brought forth into existence) and I was daily his delight, rejoicing always before him;

31. Rejoicing IN the HABITABLE part of His EARTH and my delights were with the sons of men.”

 

Let us take an even CLOSER look at the LITERAL meanings of some of these words in these last two verses. 

 

The LITERAL translation of Proverbs 8:30, 31 says.

 

“And I was beside him FOSTER CHILD and I was delectation day, day one GAMBOLING to faces of him all of time.

31. One GAMBOLING inhabiting of the earth of him and delectation of me the sons of humans.”

 

So then, ALL OF THE TIME WHILE God was PREPARING the world for his yet unborn SON Jesus, God was PORTRAYING or painting a portrait in his MIND PICTURING his yet future unborn SON GAMBOLING in the EARTH that God is yet PREPARING FOR or FOR the SAKE OF his yet unborn FOSTER child DELIGHTING over his yet coming into being unborn SON.

Let us consider the meanings of these words so we can see that PICTURE or portrait that God was painting in is MIND forming the IMAGE of what he DESIRED to BE brought into existence.

First of all, the word beside has another meaning other than being BY the side of God. When we consider the abundant GREAT JOY and delight that was WITHIN God picturing his Son to BE the word beside can take on the meaning of being beside oneself, which means out of one's MIND with EXCITEMENT or anticipation having extreme agitation. Now this meaning agrees with verse 24 of Jesus being brought forth as in God was TRAVAILING or birthing his Son WITHIN himself. This word “travailing” also has the meaning of being extremely agitated with excitement, shaking or vibrating with excitement.

Next, we see Jesus being a FOSTER child. The word “FOSTER” means to raise up a child that is NOT OF your own blood and in this case a child that is NOT of God's OWN DIVINE NATURE. You see dear children of God when Almighty God Himself brought his Son into existence God stripped himself of ALL his DIVINE nature to take on HUMAN NATURE. Please read the study WHAT DOES GOD INCARNATE MEAN? for what the BIBLE ITSELF teaches and NOT what the mainstream churches teach. For now please know and understand that Jesus did not take on the divine nature of Almighty God Father by becoming IMMORTAL, until AFTER his death and resurrection, when his God and Father GAVE his SON Jesus immortality or eternal life, the same LIFE that the Father has always possessed in himself.

 

Please read John 5:26,27.

 

For AS the Father HAS life IN himself; so has he GIVEN to the Son to have life in himself (Which literally read as to BE HAVING life in himself);

27.  And has GIVEN him (At the SAME time that God GAVE His human Son eternal life God ALSO GAVE the Son of MAN, Jesus)  authority to execute judgment also, BECAUSE he is the Son of MAN.”

 

NOT because Jesus IS Almighty God Yahweh HIMSELF in the FLESH. And NOT because Jesus is the SON OF Almighty God. But rather, BECAUSE Jesus was the Son of MAN all authority to execute judgment was GIVEN TO him by Yahweh the Father. 

Let us get back on the topic of closely examining Proverbs 8:22-31. Then we see God delighting over his Son. The root word from where this Hebrew word translated as “DELIGHTING” in the original text means to DANDLE, which means to bounce up and down on one's knee, or to bounce in one's cradled arms that brought so much JOY to God picturing his yet coming Son WITHIN himself. 

I can envision this excitement within God that he had for his yet unborn FOSTER Son. Jesus says that God loves us because we have loved him and I have FELT the loving arms of God's presence giving me a big hug that overwhelmed me so much that I began to cry out loud trembling with joy, praise, and love for God. It was during a church service and I was worshiping God with my whole being and I did not want the worship service to stop. And when the singing and praise stopped we all sat down and WITHIN myself I kept on worshiping God enjoying his presence and that is when his presence INCREASED BEYOND what I had ever felt before and I could literally feel his arms around me squeezing me, giving me a HUG, showing HIS excitement of my worship to him. Please read the study ALMIGHTY GOD LOVES YOU SO MUCH!

Then we see Jesus GAMBOLING, which means dancing around skipping and playing in the EARTH that God has NOT YET prepared FOR or FOR the SAKE OF his Son Jesus, which clearly and plainly teaches us that Jesus did NOT LITERALLY PREEXIST by his God and Father's SIDE as a separate divine eternal Spirit being called God the SON, who is CLAIMED by trinitarians and some other Christians like the Jehovah's Witnesses to be the one who created ALL things. I say by the Jehovah's Witnesses as well, but they teach that Jesus was created in the eternity past by Yahweh and, then the SON OF God created everything else.

But in TRUTH, we clearly see right here in this passage of scripture that the DESIGNER, architect, builder and CREATOR of all things is Almighty God himself ALONE and by himself HAVING his SON in his MIND doing all of this FOR or for the SAKE OF his SON Jesus.

So then, one can readily see from this passage of scripture that Jesus himself is saying that Almighty God the Father was behind all that was created and that he, God's Son was there with his Father BEFORE the FOUNDATIONS of the EARTH, as in, being there IN God's DELIGHT WITHIN God PICTURING this IMAGE of his SON rejoicing before Almighty God IN the inhabitable part of the EARTH that had NOT YET been CREATED.

So clearly, to ME, Jesus as God's SON was with God at this time before the foundation of the world ONLY in God's THOUGHTS WITHIN God, because HOW could Jesus rejoice before his God and Father IN the inhabitable part of the EARTH when the earth had NOT yet been created as yet EXCEPT in the MIND and the PLAN of ALMIGHTY God.

So you see dear children of God, when Jesus said glorify me with the glory I had with you before the world began to me Jesus was praying to his God and Father, I am getting ready to go through a time very shortly Father that when I take on the sins of the world you are going to turn your back on me, so I pray that you return me to the glorious delight that you had for me before the world began and before I was ever BORN. 

 

I myself believe that Jeremiah 1:5 is a PROPHECY of Jesus.

 

“Before I formed you in the belly I knew you; and before you came forth out of the womb I sanctified you, and I ordained you a prophet unto the nations.”

 

Not just to the nation of Israel, but to the NATIONS. Jeremiah was a prophet to the ONE nation Israel ONLY, but Jesus is God's prophet to ALL nations. You see, Jesus knew the scriptures spoke of him. Jesus knew that he was the chosen one sent by Almighty God to become that sacrifice for mankind because the Spirit of God taught him morning by morning from the scriptures and GAVE Jesus the tongue of the LEARNED.

 

Please read Isaiah 50:1-7.

 

The Lord GOD has GIVEN me the tongue of the learned, that I should know how to speak a word in season to him that is weary: he wakes morning by morning, he wakens my ear to hear as the learned.

5.  The Lord GOD has opened my ear, and I was not rebellious, neither turned away back. 

6.  I gave my back to the smiters, and my cheeks to them that plucked off the hair: I hid not my face from shame and spitting. 

7.  For the Lord GOD will HELP me; therefore shall I not be confounded: therefore have I set my face like a flint, and I know that I shall not be ashamed.” 

 

Jesus saw the END from the Scriptures, but he still had to BELIEVE. And because of the joy that was set before Jesus, he endured the cross for us knowing that his God and Father is FAITHFUL to perform his spoken word. So then, because Jesus became obedient even unto death on the cross Almighty God HIGHLY EXALTED his Son and GAVE him a name that is above every name. Think this through for YOURSELF dear child of God. If so be that Jesus was truly Yahweh himself during his ministry, then WHY would Yahweh HIGHLY EXALT Yahweh himself? There cannot be TWO Yahwehs any more than there can be TWO ALMIGHTY Gods.

This brings us to the third verse in question where some INTERPRET that Jesus MUST have pre-existed as a second person of the Trinity.

John 17:5 in the LITERAL Greek can be translated in a number of ways. First, let us read this verse again from the King James version.

 

John 17:5.

 

“And now, O Father, glorify you me with your own self with the glory which I HAD with you BEFORE the world WAS.”

 

Please notice that I have emphasized three words. The word that is translated as "I HAD" is the Greek word "ECHO" Strong's # 2192, which means to hold, to keep, or to be as a possession or as a condition. In other words, in the light of the rest of God's word Jesus is asking his God and Father to glorify him with the glory, which God has promised and is holding in store for him. Thayer's Greek to English Lexicon defines this word to mean to have in store. Hebrews 12:1-4 teaches us that Almighty God set something that brought JOY in view before his Son Jesus, which gave his SON strength to ENDURE the suffering of the cross.

 

Hebrews 12:1-4.

 

“Wherefore seeing we also are compassed about with so great a cloud of witnesses, let us lay aside every weight, and the sin which doth so easily beset us, and let us run with patience the race that is set before us,

2. Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who FOR (Or BECAUSE OF) the JOY that was SET BEFORE him, he ENDURED the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.

3. For consider him that endured such contradiction of sinners against himself, lest you be wearied and faint in your minds.

4. You have not yet resisted unto blood, striving against sin.”

 

Now, we as Christians have a PRIZE that is set before us to strengthen us to ENDURE unto the end, and this PRIZE of eternal life is RESERVED in heaven for us, so why is it so hard to see that Jesus was simply praying and asking God to glorify his Son with the glory that was being RESERVED in heaven for him. 

The word that is translated as “BEFORE” can also mean previous and the word that is translated as “WAS” also means “TO BE”. Now. some Bible scholars interpret John 17:5 to mean that Jesus was asking to be glorified with the glory which Almighty God the Father was HOLDING IN STORE for him to enjoy prior to the world to come. This interpretation AGREES with the truth of the whole word of God which teaches us that Jesus is in heaven NOW in his glorified state sitting at the right hand of his Father on his Father's throne.

So in the light of the whole word of God and the different ways that John 17:5 can and should have been translated this verse does NOT prove that Jesus preexisted and therefore prove that Jesus is the eternal Yahweh without beginning. 

 

Jesus is everywhere-present.

 

Christ promised His disciples, “Where two or three are gathered together in My name, I am there in the midst of them” (Matthew 18:20). Since people all over the world gather in Christ’s name, the only way He could be present with them all is if He is truly omnipresent (see Matthew 28:20; Ephesians 1:23, 4:10; Colossians 3:11).

 

The FACT of the whole matter is that during the earthly ministry Jesus was NOT Omnipresent or present everywhere like his God and Father has always been and ever shall be. The TRUTH of the matter is the AFTER the cross, Jesus was GIVEN ALL the FULNESS of the Godhead to be dwelling in him BODILY. So AFTER the cross, Jesus was GIVEN all power to send the Holy Spirit and to teach THROUGH the Holy Spirit. So NOW, after the cross, BOTH the Father and His Son speaking to us through Yahweh’s Holy Spirit dwelling in us.

Verses like John 11:15 clearly teaches us that Jesus was not present everywhere at the same time. When Lazarus died Jesus was in ANOTHER PLACE.

 

John 11:15.

 

“And I am glad for your sakes that I was NOT THERE, to the intent you may believe; nevertheless let us go unto him.” 

 

When the Jews tried to kill Jesus he slipped away so clearly Jesus was not in every place at the same time, as in, always being everywhere at the same time in the days of his flesh. If this were true Jesus could not have slipped away when the Jews tried to kill him, because he would have still been there being present everywhere at the same time. The reason why Jesus was able to slip away and not be killed at that time is that his hour to be killed was not yet.

The truth of the matter is that ALL that Jesus is and ALL that Jesus has was GIVEN TO him by his God and Father Yahweh. The DIVINE NATURE to be IMMORTAL was GIVEN to Jesus by Yahweh his God and Father. SO NOW presently AFTER Jesus was GIVEN eternal life in TO BE HAVING in himself, then our Lord and Savior in his HIGHLY EXALTED position of the DIVINE nature of IMMORTALITY it is believed by some Christians that Jesus is now omnipresent, which means to be everywhere at the same time ALL the time.

However the word of TRUTH teaches us that Jesus would MANIFEST himself to US, as BELIEVERS, and NOT unto the world. Jesus said that he would not leave us COMFORTLESS and that he would come to us. Let us read this passage of Scripture to learn what Jesus means by come to us

 

Please read John 14:10-26.

 

“Believe you not that I am in the Father and the Father in me? The words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that DWELLING IN me, HE does the works.

11.  Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works' sake.

12.  Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believes on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do (Now if so be that Jesus is truly Yahweh himself during his earthly ministry then Jesus would be saying here that WE shall do GREAT works that YAHWEH our creator. The truth of the matter is that WE, as in, all of us collectively together shall do greater works than Jesus the SON OF God, because Jesus could NOT be in more than ONE place at a time and WE being MANY members of his body can be many different places at the same time. So the greater works are all of us doing the SAME works in many different places all over the world at the SAME time THROUGH the indwelling power of the Holy Spirit and the AUTHORITY given to us in the NAME of Jesus.) because I go unto my Father.

13.  And whatsoever you shall ask (Or command in authority) in my NAME, that will I do, (being the MEDIATOR BETWEEN God and mankind and by the Spirit of Yahweh now dwelling in us) that (Or so that) the FATHER may be glorified in the Son.

14.  If you shall ask anything in my name, I will do it. (In truth, it is the SPIRIT of CHRIST, the SAME ANOINTING who dwelt in Jesus who does the works. Jesus was GIVEN this eternal Spirit and ALSO given the power and authority to give the eternal Spirit to whosoever believes of the SON OF God)

15.  If you love me, keep my commandments.

16.  And I will pray the Father, and HE shall give you ANOTHER Comforter, that HE may abide with you forever;

17.  Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it sees him not, neither knows him: but you know him; for he dwells WITH you, (Now) and shall be IN you.

18.  I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you. (By sending the same Holy eternal Spirit of Yahweh who dwelt in me. The eternal Spirit knows what I went through because he was IN ME and felt MY pain and suffering)

19. Yet a little while and the WORLD sees me NO MORE, but YOU see me: (We as BELIEVERS him) because I live, you shall live also. (We who live today have NEVER seen Jesus physically, but we SEE Jesus with our Spiritual eyes. And we will see him in the world to come) 

20.  At that day you shall know that I am in my Father, and you in me, and I IN you. (Jesus now POSSESSES as his OWN the Spirit of LIFE in HIMSELF to HAVE even as the Father has always possessed the Spirit of immortal self-existing life in himself. So the SAME Spirit of Yahweh, who dwelt in Jesus is the Spirit of Jesus, who now gives his Spirit to us, which is the same Spirit, who DWELT IN him. Jesus was GIVEN IMMORTALITY by his God and Father as a reward for his obedience to do all the will of his Father AND has GIVEN his SON the power and the authority to give US this SAME IMMORTALITY for our reward of obedience to his words. Please read 2 Peter 1:4 where we are given exceeding precious promise to partake of the DIVINE NATURE life Jesus was GIVEN by his God and Father. “Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these you might be PARTAKERS of the DIVINE NATURE, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.”

21.  He that has my commandments and keeps them, he it is that loves me: and he that loves me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him and will MANIFEST myself to him. (The word “manifest” means to make clearly known. It is NOT that Jesus himself comes to us, but rather it is the presence of his SPIRIT witnessing to us. Even when Jesus appears to believers his appearance is a vision and not his actually appearing to us. Paul said whether in the body or out of the body I CANNOT tell. So visions appear very real. His SPIRIT comes to us, which is the SAME Spirit of Yahweh that was GIVEN to Jesus. The Bible itself teaches us that Jesus MUST REMAIN in HEAVEN UNTIL the fullness of the Gentiles is complete. So no man will actually see Jesus until his SECOND coming. Again one may see a VISION of Jesus like Isaiah saw a VISION of Jesus high and lifted up and his train filled the temple)

22.  Judas said unto him, not Iscariot, Lord, HOW is it that you will MANIFEST yourself unto us, and NOT unto the world? (Where two are gathered together in my name THERE I am in the MIDST of them meaning the SPIRIT of CHRIST the ANOINTING manifesting to do the WORKS that Jesus did in our MIDST. So in truth, Jesus himself is NOT omnipresent even NOW in his HIGHLY EXALTED DIVINE nature after being GIVEN IMMORTALITY by his God and Father Yahweh)

23.  Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man loves me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and WE will come unto him, and make OUR abode with him. (This verse shows us that it is the SAME Spirit of Yahweh given to Jesus NOW dwells in us. Remember the REST of God's word which teaches us that we have been given an EARNEST of the Spirit, which means part of or a portion of the Spirit much like earnest money is a partial down payment where it is expected that the REST will be given at a later time. The Holy Spirit is the SELF-SAME Spirit the Father. But NOW, bother the Father AND His Son can TALK to us THROUGH the earnest of the Holy Spirit dwelling in us. Sometimes Jesus tells the Holy Spirit what to say and sometimes the Father speaks for Himself)

24.  He that loves me not keeps not my sayings: and the word which you hear is NOT MINE, but the Father's which sent me.

25.  These things have I spoken unto you, being yet PRESENT with you. (Jesus is preparing his disciples that he must LEAVE them for a while and go to the Father.) 

26.  But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in you in MY NAME, HE shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.”

 

So then, BOTH the Yahweh the Father and his SON Jesus are present with BELIEVERS by DWELLING IN us AS the divine eternal SPIRIT of Yahweh. But, in truth, it is NOT the Son Jesus, who actually dwells in us, but rather it is the eternal Holy Spirit OF Yahweh the Father, who he GAVE or granted to his SON Jesus to be having LIFE in himself even as the Father has always possessed immortality in himself. So the truth of the matter is that the Father is sitting on his THRONE in heaven and his SON Jesus is sitting on his God and Father's throne at his Father's right hand. But Yahweh is the INVISIBLE SPIRIT that is present everywhere and the SOURCE of ALL things. So in the SAME way that the Father was always IN heaven ON his THRONE and his SPIRIT was DWELLING IN his SON Jesus so is it now that Jesus is WITH US by his SPIRIT DWELLING IN us, which is the SAME eternal Spirit of Yahweh that was GIVEN TO Jesus to possess. Please read Revelation 3:21 where both Jesus and his Father are sitting on the Father's THRONE up in heaven.

 

Revelation 3:21.

 

“To him that overcomes will I grant to sit WITH me in my throne, EVEN AS I ALSO overcame, and am set down WITH my Father in HIS THRONE.”

 

Jesus is NOT INVISIBLE and we will SEE Jesus when he returns. Moreover, the word of truth teaches us that we shall be LIKE HIM for we shall SEE him as he IS now up in heaven at his Father's right hand. So the PRESENCE of God that we as Christians feel under the ANOINTING of God is the SPIRIT of Yahweh and NOW ALSO the SPIRIT of the SON as well, being GIVEN to Jesus to BE HAVING is what we feel when the PRESENCE of God overshadows us. So then, clearly seeing that Jesus manifest himself ONLY to believers and NOT to the rest of the world how can anyone, who is honestly teaching the WHOLE word of God, dogmatically demand that Jesus is omnipresent like Yahweh and therefore must, without fail, be Yahweh himself in the flesh having TWO natures one divine and one human? 

Let us move on to the next point which is Old Testament parallels. The Trinitarian argument is that the things that Yahweh said and things Jesus said matching or being the SAME words spoken MUST mean that Jesus IS Yahweh Himself. In other words, if there is anything in COMMON between Jesus and Yahweh the Father then Trinitarian Christians conclude that Jesus is Yahweh. So, therefore, those who teach the Oneness and Trinity doctrines INTERPRET Jesus saying the same words as Yahweh said to mean that Jesus himself is emphatically saying that he is Yahweh Himself. Those will be some of the kinds of Trinitarian arguments that we will cover in part 4 of this five-part series called IS JESUS YAHWWHE HIMSELF? Part 1.

To continue to read part 4 please click on the link “IS JESUS YAHWEH HIMSELF? Part 4”

And if you need to go back to part two here is the link IS JESUS YAHWWHE HIMSELF? Part 2

Thanks for reading and may God bless you richly as you continue to seek the TRUTH of the WHOLE word of Almighty God,

Your brother in our Lord Jesus Christ,

Brother Mark.

 

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