GOD was MANIFEST
What does this statement mean: God was MANIFEST in the FLESH?
Now the mainstream church denominations will tell us that it means that Almighty God himself BECAME flesh and dwelt among men as the man named Jesus. In other words, it means Jesus IS Almighty God according to many of the mainstream denominational churches, whether they teach the doctrine of the trinity or whether they teach the doctrine of oneness, sometimes known as modalism. Both of these mainstream doctrines DOGMATICALLY teach and DEMAND that this statement found in 1 Timothy 3:16, which says, God was MANIFEST in the FLESH, means without fail that Jesus IS God.
"And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was MANIFEST in the FLESH, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory."
Well to ME, to say that Jesus IS GOD, is to say that Jesus IS THE Almighty God. And to ME, to say that Jesus IS THE ONE TRUE and ONLY ALMIGHTY God is to say that Jesus IS the FATHER and the DOCTRINE of the trinity clearly and plainly states that Jesus is NOT the FATHER and that Almighty God the FATHER is NOT the SON Jesus, or in other words, Almighty God is NOT Jesus.
Now WHY do I say, to ME, that if at any time Jesus is said to be GOD, that all I hear is that Jesus IS the FATHER? Well to ME, when I hear those that teach the doctrine of the trinity dogmatically demand that Jesus IS GOD, then in MY mind I hear them saying that Jesus is the ONE TRUE and ONLY ALMIGHTY God. Then to ME, IF this is truly what they are demanding when those who teach the doctrine of the trinity say that Jesus IS GOD, then to ME, this would be the SAME as saying that Jesus IS the FATHER? But yet to ME, I know that the DOCTRINE of the trinity plainly and clearly states that Jesus is NOT the FATHER and that God the Father is NOT the SON Jesus. Can you not see the CONTRADICTION that I have in my OWN mind concerning this DOCTRINE of the trinity? It just does NOT compute with ME in the LIGHT of the WHOLE word of God. So again WHY to a BELIEVE and teach what I do?
Well let me begin to explain why I myself see these man made doctrines as being FALSE teachings by using a method used by those who teach the doctrine of the trinity and the doctrine of oneness to support their theology. They begin by saying if A=B, and B=C, then A=C, and therefore C=A, which is MATHEMATICALLY correct. But then they try to apply this mathematical formula to the word of God and say since John 1:1 tells us that the Word IS God and then John 1:14 teaches us that the word was made flesh, which we all know is referring to Jesus, therefore the Word IS Jesus. Then after making this connection they dogmatically demand that God IS Jesus and or rather that Jesus IS God. In other words:
Word=God, and Word=Jesus, then God=Jesus, and Jesus=God.
Therefore Jesus IS GOD and God IS Jesus, that is to say, ACCORDING to this line of REASONING.
Now this all sounds logical to those who teach the doctrine of the trinity and to those who teach the doctrine of oneness and therefore MUST be the TRUTH, because it is TRUE in mathematics. But can a MATHEMATICAL formula be applied to the word of God and ALWAYS still produce a CORRECT answer?
You see, when I look at this line of reasoning and the dogmatic statement that Jesus IS GOD, then I see that those who teach these doctrines are saying in fact that Jesus IS THE ONE TRUE and ONLY ALMIGHTY God, because the doctrine of the trinity states that Jesus and Almighty God the Father are EQUAL in every way, where neither is greater than nor less than the other, and the doctrine of oneness simply teaches that Jesus IS Almighty God the Father completely ignoring all the verses that clearly teach us that Jesus and Almighty God the Father are two distinct individuals.
My point is this, whenever those that teach the doctrine of the trinity say that Jesus IS GOD all I hear in my OWN mind is that Jesus IS ALMIGHTY God, because HOW can Jesus be said to be God with a CAPITAL "G" be anything other than than the ONE TRUE and ONLY ALMIGHTY God.
BUT then, when I read the scriptures, I MYSELF, only see ALMIGHTY God as being the FATHER. Therefore to ME, when I hear those that teach the doctrine of the trinity dogmatically say that Jesus IS GOD, then all I hear is that Jesus IS ALMIGHTY God the FATHER. In others words, when those that teach the doctrine of the trinity make the CLAIM and dogmatically demand that Jesus IS GOD, then what I myself am hearing is that Jesus IS the FATHER. But yet the doctrine of the trinity plainly states that Jesus is NOT the FATHER.
So then, HOW can those who teach the DOCTRINE of the trinity HONESTLY say that the word of God plainly teaches that Jesus IS God, without making Jesus to be ALMIGHTY God, who to ME, is without question the FATHER? So then, my question to those that believe and teach this doctrine of the trinity is "HOW can YOU, speaking to those of you who believe and teach the DOCTRINE of the trinity HONESTLY teach that Jesus is NOT the FATHER, when to ME, you just got through demanding that Jesus IS GOD and therefore mean by this that Jesus IS the ALMIGHTY God
Well then, IS Jesus God? And then if you say and demand that Jesus IS God, then are you saying and demanding that Jesus IS the ALMIGHTY God? Define what you mean, when you are saying that Jesus IS God, 100% God and 100% man at the SAME time. Are you saying that Jesus is 100% ALMIGHTY God? Or are you saying that Jesus is only "a god", who is under and subject to the ONE TRUE and ONLY ALMIGHTY God the FATHER? What do you mean when you dogmatically teach that Jesus IS GOD?
Now if you say that Jesus IS 100% God, as in, Jesus IS 100% ALMIGHTY God, then to ME, you are saying that Jesus IS 100% the FATHER, because to ME, the word of TRUTH clearly teaches us that ONLY Almighty God IS the FATHER. Therefore, to ME, the DOCTRINE of the trinity is a FALSE teaching and should be rejected.
Please CONSIDER the word of TRUTH, which to ME, clearly and plainly teaches us that the ONE TRUE God is ALMIGHTY, and that Almighty God IS the FATHER. Let us begin this study in God's word by reading Ephesians 4:3-6 which teaches us that Jews and Gentiles alike have but ONE Father who is the Father of us all.
4. There is one body,(even though some of you my dear brothers and sisters in our Lord Jesus Christ may not agree with what I believe the word of TRUTH teaches) and one Spirit, even as you are called in one hope of your calling;
So then, according to this verse of scripture their is but ONE GOD, who IS the FATHER of all and this ONE God, who IS the FATHER is ABOVE ALL, which to ME, means that the ONE God, who IS the FATHER is THE ALMIGHTY or the THE HIGHEST God over ALL. In other words, this ONE God IS Almighty God the FATHER. Now please read Malachi 2:10, which again teaches us that we have but ONE God and ONE Father.
In this verse we learn that this ONE God, who IS the FATHER is the one who CREATED us. Then in 1 Corinthians 8:4-6 we read where the ONE God, who we now know IS the FATHER, is the ONLY God, because we are plainly told that the is NONE OTHER God but ONE. Then further down we see also that there is ONE Lord who is Jesus the Christ.
Now those who teach the ONENESS doctrine just come right out and plainly say that Jesus IS the FATHER. But to ME, I clearly see a DISTINCTION between Almighty God, the FATHER and his SON Jesus the CHRIST. For example, here is verse 6 we see the conjunction AND , which to ME, is CLEARLY showing us that the ONE God THE FATHER is DEFINITELY NOT the ONE Lord, who IS Jesus the CHRIST.
To Me, BOTH the doctrine of the trinity AND the doctrine of oneness are FALSE doctrines. But let us continue in this study of God word and let the word of TRUTH teach us whether or not Jesus IS GOD, which again to ME, would make Jesus to be ALMIGHTY God, which would then consequently make Jesus to be the FATHER. Please read Romans 15:5-7 which teaches us that Almighty God IS the FATHER OF our ONE Lord Jesus Christ.
Now be assured that I RECEIVE my dear brothers and sisters in our Lord Jesus Christ, who believe and teach the doctrine of the trinity, and I RECEIVE my dear brothers and sister in our Lord Jesus Christ who teach the doctrine of oneness. But sometime I have my DOUBTS that YOU receive me as your brother in our Lord Jesus Christ, simply because I will not accept these MAN made doctrines, which to ME, clearly contradict the WHOLE word of Almighty God the Father.
All I am asking is that you HEAR me out and at least CONSIDER what I have to say. Proverbs 18:12,13 teaches us that a man who ANSWERS a matter BEFORE he HEARS it that it is folly and a shame to him.
Please bear with me a little longer and I will show you PLAINLY from the scriptures that the ALMIGHTY God is NOT Jesus, who to ME, is CLEARLY the SON of Almighty God.
And I will plainly show you from the scriptures that Almighty God the Father and Jesus his SON are TWO DISTINCT PERSONS and NOT just two different MANIFESTATIONS of the ONE TRUE and ONLY ALMIGHTY God who is the FATHER.
Let's begin by reading Revelation 1:4-8, where the apostle John is introducing to us, so to speak, Almighty God the Father AND his Son our Lord Jesus Christ.
"John to the seven churches which are in Asia: Grace be unto you, and peace, FROM HIM which is, and which was, and which is to come; AND from the seven Spirits which are before HIS throne (speaking of HIM which is, and which was, and which is to come);
5. AND FROM Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood (speaking of Jesus the Son of God),
Now some read this verse 8 here and make the CLAIM that this verse is speaking of JESUS as being THE ALMIGHTY, the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and the end which is, and which was, and which is to come. And I admit that WITHOUT reading the ENTIRE CONTEXT this verse when viewed ALONE and apart from the WHOLE word of God does SEEM to be Jesus speaking and even is some Bible the text is in red letters which makes it even more confusing. But just bear with me for a little longer and you will CLEARLY see that verse 8 is Almighty God the FATHER who is speaking and NOT Jesus his SON as some FALSELY teach.
Again, when we CONSIDER the CONTEXT we clearly see that John plainly distinguishes between the greetings that are FROM HIM which is, and which was, and which is to come as being a JOINT greeting by using the conjunction AND from JESUS CHRIST, who then is IDENTIFIED as being the faithful WITNESS, the first begotten from the dead, and the PRINCE of the kings of the earth.
Well you may not see what I am saying as yet, but if you keep reading in the book of Revelation it will become CLEAR to you that the ONE who SITS upon the THRONE is ALMIGHTY God the Father OF Jesus Christ our Lord. Please read Revelation 4:1-11, which teaches us again that the ONE who SITS upon the THRONE, the HIM which is, and which was, and which is to come IS THE ALMIGHTY God, who we KNOW is the FATHER OF Jesus our Lord.
"After this I looked, and, behold, a door was opened in heaven (now please keep in mind that what we are being shown here is IN Heaven AFTER Jesus has ALREADY been slain on the cross and is now ascended to Heaven to be WITH his Father to sit one his Father's throne at his right side): and the first voice which I heard was as it were of a trumpet talking with me; which said, Come up hither, and I will show you things which must be hereafter.
8. And the four beasts had each of them six wings about him; and they were full of eyes within: and they rest not day and night, saying, Holy, holy, holy, Lord God Almighty, which was, and is, and is to come. (which is the very SAME choice of words used in the greeting FROM HIM, which is, and which was, and which is to come...AND from Jesus Christ...that we just read in Revelation 1:4-8 where I told you that the HIM is the one who is speaking in verse 8 saying that he is THE ALMIGHTY)
Now here in verse 8 we clearly and plainly see that it is the ONE LORD GOD ALMIGHTY that SITS upon the THRONE in heaven. And as we have already learned there is no doubt the Almighty God IS the FATHER OF our Lord Jesus Christ. Likewise we have clearly seen that John plainly distinguishes HIM that sits on the THRONE from his Son Jesus by placing the conjunction AND between the two when he gave greetings to the seven churches in Asia.
But even with all this there are some who may still not be convinced that Jesus is NOT the ALMIGHTY God who SITS upon the THRONE.
If you are still not convinced please read Revelation 5:1-8, which will prove beyond any shadow of a doubt that there are TWO distinct individuals IN heaven and NOT just the ONE TRUE and ONLY ALMIGHTY God who SITS on the THRONE, who some teach has merely MANIFESTED HIMSELF to a DIFFERENT MANIFESTATION on the earth as Jesus. In other words, KEEP reading and you will CLEARLY see that the ONE TRUE and ONLY ALMIGHTY God who sits upon the THRONE is NOT Jesus the Christ, who was the LAMB that was slain from before the foundation of the world.
6. And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a LAMB as it had been slain, having even horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth.
7. And HE (speaking of Jesus the CHRIST, the LAMB of God, who was slain from before the foundation of the world) came and took the book out of the right hand of HIM (speaking of the ONE TRUE and ONLY LORD GOD ALMIGHTY) that SAT upon the THRONE."
Now to ME, when I read the CLEAR plain an SIMPLE word of Almighty God, then I simply cannot accept these FALSE teachings of MAN that make the CLAIM and dogmatically demand that we believe that Jesus IS GOD, as in, that Jesus is THE ALMIGHTY God, nor can I accept the FALSE teaching that Jesus IS the FATHER.
Now what I can accept and BELIEVE is that Jesus CAME FROM the Almighty God the Father in that God sent his WORD and when the word of God was spoken by the angel Gabriel to the virgin Mary and Mary RECEIVED this word of God by saying, be it done according to your word, then the word of God BECAME or was MADE flesh and this SON of the HIGHEST that was born as a MAN to Mary was given the name Jesus, which means the SALVATION of Yehweh or Yehweh saves, where Yehweh IS the ONLY ONE TRUE ALMIGHTY God and Jesus is his SON.
And I can also accept and BELIEVE that Jesus is the Son of MAN, whom Almighty God HIGHLY EXALTED to be "A" god, with a LOWER case "g", meaning that Jesus is and always will be SUBJECT unto HIS GOD and FATHER, the ONE TRUE and ONLY ALMIGHTY and WISE God who is ABOVE ALL including his SON Jesus, whom he HIMSELF has HIGHLY EXALTED to sit upon his own right hand and rule and reign over the children of men for 1000 years. For a deeper understanding on what I believe and WHY I believe it as the TRUTH of the WHOLE word of Almighty God please read the study "OUR GOD IS ONE" which will direct you to all the studies that I have concerning WHO is Jesus. But for now let us get back to the question at hand, which is "What does the word of God mean when it says, God was MANIFEST in the FLESH?"
The word that is TRANSLATED as "MANIFEST" or "MANIFESTED" is the Greek word "PHANEROO", Strong's number (5319), and means:
To REVEAL, to MAKE KNOWN, to SHOW, to APPEAR, to DISCLOSE, to be DISCLOSED, to be DISPLAYED, to be REVEALED.
And it is translated as MADE MANIFEST, MANIFEST, MANIFESTED, MAKE MANIFEST, MANIFESTED FORTH, MANIFESTLY DECLARED, SHOWED, SHOW, and APPEAR.
Now to ME, if the translators where to have used the translation of MANIFESTLY DECLARED in 1 Timothy 3:16, then this verse would have never been used to try and prove that Jesus IS GOD. So then, let us read this verse with this translation of the Greek word "PHANEROO" being manifestly DECLARED rather than just the word manifest and keep in mind that this Greek word that is found in the original text mean both manifest and manifestly DECLARED.
Here is 1 Timothy 3:16 with another meaning of this SAME Greek word that is TRANSLATED as manifest in the King James Version of the Bible, but here will will use the definition manifestly DECLARED instead.
"And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifestly DECLARED in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory."
Now this definition of manifestly DECLARED clearly harmonizes with what Jesus taught us when he said I SHOW you the Father. Let us read those passages of scripture to refresh your memory and to see exactly what they are truly saying. Please read John 14:5-11, which to ME, is teaching us that when we see the WORKS that Jesus did, we are in all actuality seeing the true nature and working of the INVISIBLE God, Almighty God the Father.
9. Jesus said unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet have you not KNOWN me, Philip? He that has SEEN me (or has KNOWN and UNDERSTOOD me) has SEEN (or has KNOWN and UNDERSTOOD the true nature of) the Father; and how say you then, SHOW us the Father?
Now some will argue and say that Jesus is teaching that HE HIMSELF IS the FATHER because he says that if you have SEEN him, THEN you have SEEN the Father.
But IF this line of REASONING is true, then why would Jesus go on to say in John 16:25-28 that he will SHOW us PLAINLY the FATHER? Think this through for yourself, IF Jesus was truly saying that he himself was the ONE TRUE and ONLY ALMIGHTY God the FATHER, when he said if you have SEEN me then you have SEEN the FATHER, then WHO would he tell his disciples later on in this SAME CONTEXT of John chapters 13-17 that he would SHOW them the FATHER PLAINLY.
Now I want to Go back to 1 Timothy and have you read the rest of what this disciple of Jesus has to say about SHOW us the FATHER and WHO the Father IS according to the WHOLE word of God. Please read 1 Timothy 6:13-16, which CLEARLY teaches us that that Jesus and the Father are two distinct individuals and that Jesus is NOT the ONE TRUE and ONLY ALMIGHTY God the FATHER.
Now some look right past all the CLEAR teaching in these verses and DEMAND that verse 15 is speaking of JESUS, because Jesus is called the King of kings, and the Lord of lords.
But to ME, I clearly see verse 16 as CLARIFYING EXACTLY WHO is the ONLY Potentate, or WHO the ONLY ALMIGHTY is as being the one WHOM no man has SEEN, NOR can EVER SEE, because man in the flesh cannot SEE that which is INVISIBLE, unless of course God OPENS their eyes to see into the spiritual world like as in a VISION.
Again IF Paul were truly saying in 1 Timothy 3:16 that Almighty God HIMSELF was TRANSFORMED into a human form to BECOME 100% ALMIGHTY God in the FLESH rather than meaning by the word MANIFEST that he was simply saying that Almighty God the Father was manifestly DECLARED by the MAN Jesus, as in, Jesus SHOWED us PLAINLY the nature and character of his God and Father Almighty God BY the WORKS that Jesus did THROUGH the Holy Spirit of Almighty God that DWELT IN him, then WHY would Paul open his letter to the Timothy and the church by saying that the ONLY WISE God the King eternal was INVISIBLE?
Now this SIMPLE question set before you who teach these FALSE doctrine of the trinity and oneness is:
Was Jesus INVISIBLE?
The TRUTH of the matter is that since the Jesus was CLEARLY SEEN of MEN, then he is NOT the ONLY WISE ALMIGHTY God whom NO MAN can EVER SEE.
The TRUTH of the matter is that when the disciple saw the WORKS of Jesus, then they were SEEING and UNDERSTANDING the true NATURE and CHARACTER of the ONE and ONLY TRUE ALMIGHTY God the FATHER.
When we compare scripture with scripture and look at other places where this word MANIFEST is used it becomes CLEAR that Almighty God the Father did not literally TRANSFORM HIMSELF 100% into a human form as some falsely teach. Certainly Almighty God is capable of doing this, because he is Almighty and nothing is impossible.
So then, with this same line of thought that nothing is impossible with God, why then is it not possible for God to ELECT or CHOSE to by his spoken word to cause the virgin Mary to be conceived in her womb with a specially conceived unique Son that would be brought into the world and taught by God's Holy Spirit morning after morning as Isaiah teaches us, until he grew in stature and in favor with God, and then be baptized with the Holy Spirit of God to do the WORKS that God showed him through the power of the ANOINTING of the Holy Spirit that DWELT IN him and strengthened him to die as a MAN for our sins and thereby become our Lord and savior?
WHY must these mainline churches insist that it be dogmatically taught that the death of a MAN could never ATONE for the sins of mankind that was supposedly brought upon all of mankind because of a mere MAN.
Why is it dogmatically taught that it MUST be Almighty God HIMSELF that died on that cross in the form of a man in order for the sacrifice to be sufficient to forgive mankind of their sins because of the one MAN Adam's sin?
Why could Jesus not be a MAN who was ANOINTED with the Holy Spirit of Almighty God that went about doing good and healing all who were oppressed of the devil like Acts 10:38 PLAINLY and CLEARLY teaches us with SIMPLE easy to understand teaching.
"How God (speaking of Almighty God the Father) ANOINTED Jesus of Nazareth WITH the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil;(HOW? How did Jesus being a MAN do all these mighty works of healing?) FOR (or by the reason that) God was WITH him."
Can you not see my dear brothers and sisters in the Lord, that Almighty God the Father was WITH his SON Jesus THROUGH the INDWELLING of the Holy Spirit, and that this is HOW Jesus did the mighty works of healing that he did in order to SHOW us the ONE TRUE and ONLY ALMIGHTY God?
To ME, this is far more easier to believe that these complicated man made doctrines of the trinity and oneness.
Now I believe that Jesus was ONE with God as in Jesus laid aside his OWN will and obey the leading of the Holy Spirit that DWELL within him. Jesus and the Father AGREED as ONE, and if you follow through and STUDY to word of God you will clearly see that this is exactly what Jesus meant when he said "I and my Father are ONE" in John 10:30. Please read this verse in the CONTEXT of where it is found and then COMPARE scripture WITH scripture rather than comparing scripture with the teachings and traditions of men. Here is John 10:30 in it's context, simply read the previous verse.
Now WHY would Jesus say here in this previous verse that his Father, which is clearly ALMIGHTY God, is GREATER than he was, IF Jesus TRULY meant that he and Almighty God his FATHER were ONE and the SAME being?
Well some of you who want to cling to the false doctrine of the trinity and the false doctrine of oneness may be thinking, "Jesus was NOT talking about HIMSELF here when he said his Father was GREATER than ALL, but was rather referring to all as in mankind and the devils." And you are partially correct.
However when we compare scripture with scripture and read John 14:28 you will see without a doubt that Jesus considered himself to be UNDER and SUBJECT to his God and Father, when he CLEARLY and PLAINLY says the Father is GREATER than I.
Now those who teach the doctrine of the trinity, HOW can you even begin to use the words of Jesus when he said "I and my FATHER are ONE" and dogmatically demand that Jesus was saying that he himself IS the FATHER, when the DOCTRINE of the trinity plainly states that Jesus is NOT the FATHER and that the Almighty God the Father is NOT the SON.
To ME, EVERY scripture that those who teach the DOCTRINE of the trinity try and use to PROVE that Jesus IS GOD, when you THINK it through for YOURSELF you are in reality making Jesus to be the FATHER, and therefore DISPROVE the DOCTRINE of the trinity which plainly states that Jesus is NOT the Father. Perhaps this is why the doctrine of ONENESS was created?
My point is this, NEITHER of these DOCTRINES of MAN line up with the WHOLE word of God, so WHY cling to them and dogmatically demand other to believe these false teaching out of fear of losing their salvation if they do not?
The TRUTH of the matter is that these false doctrine are causing some to walk away of the word of TRUTH altogether. I have read testimonies of Christians who have converted to ISLAM just because of the doctrine of the trinity. When they could not find any answer but the pat answer we all have heard which is, "IT is a MYSTERY that the MIND cannot comprehend, therefore you just have to ACCEPT it by FAITH."
Now you are under no obligation nor do not half to follow these blind leaders who have NOT searched the word of TRUTH out for themselves, but rather just parrot the words and teaches of others from whom they themselves were taught.
Just THINK about this for a moment. IF these doctrines were TRUE, which they BOTH cannot be TRUE, but for the sake of RATIONAL reasoning, IF one or the other were TRUE, they WHY do we not find CLEAR teaching of EITHER of these doctrines in the word of God?
Now hear me out and let me explain what I mean by this. Jesus was a JEW, was he not? Yes I am sure you will agree that Jesus was a JEW who was sent by God to his OWN people who were of course JEWS as well. Correct me if I am wrong, but did not the JEWS believe in a ONE God? Of course they did.
So then, IF the early Church SUPPOSEDLY came to these JEWS first preaching a GOSPEL of a TRINITY, or a GOSPEL of ONENESS, then would not there be pages and pages of explanation to these JEWS who believed in the ONE INVISIBLE God. Seriously, THINK about this for awhile. There are many pages written over the CONTROVERSY of CIRCUMCISION and the RESURRECTION of Jesus, but I Myself do not find one word of teaching to supposedly CORRECT the JEWS.
The TRUTH of the matter is that we do not see the church writing teachings to CORRECT this doctrine of the trinity until the fourth and fifth centuries. And the reason WHY is that this doctrine of the trinity did not EXIST and a doctrine of the church UNTIL that time in history. Now to ME, this should raise a RED FLAG to every Christian who has ever been taught these doctrines of the trinity and oneness. This LACK of CLEAR PLAIN and SIMPLE teaching by the apostles and the early church should alone prove to you that these were NOT doctrines that Jesus nor the apostles taught.
Anyway, getting back to this question of what does this phrase "God was MANIFEST in the FLESH" truly mean let us now take a close look at HOW this word is used in other places in the word of God. Please read 1 Corinthians 4:2-11 which tells us that Jesus Christ was made MANIFEST in OUR FLESH. So does this mean that Jesus was TRANSFORMED and BECAME OUR FLESH? Why would we believe such foolish REASONING? Yet some believe this very thing when it is applied to Almighty God being MANIFEST in the flesh as dogmatically meaning that Almighty God was TRANSFORMED and BECAME 100% FLESH, bu yet REMAINED 100% God at the SAME time.
"But have renounced the hidden things of dishonesty, not walking in craftiness, nor handling the word of God deceitfully; but by manifestation (or the clear revealing) of the TRUTH commending ourselves to every man's conscience in the sight of God.
4. In whom the god of this world has blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the IMAGE of God, (and NOT the false deceitful gospel that teaches that Jesus IS ALMIGTY GOD the FATHER HIMSELF that the god of this world has blinded the eyes of those that believe such doctrines lest the LIGHT of the glorious gospel of TRUTH) should shine unto them.
6. For God (speaking of Almighty God the FATHER), who commanded the light to shine out of darkness, has shined in our hearts, to give the LIGHT of the knowledge of the glory of God IN the FACE of Jesus Christ.
Now does this mean that Jesus who has now been GIVEN eternal life by his God and Father even as Almighty God the Father has LIFE in HIMSELF is now TRANSFORMED and BECOME OUR MORTAL FLESH? ABSOLUTELY NOT! Even to think such a thing is completely ridiculous.
But yet those that teach the doctrine of the trinity and those that teach the doctrine of oneness will dogmatically demand that this is what this very same word that is TRANSLATED as MANIFEST in both place means in 1 Timothy 3:16, but at the same time would not even dare to say that Jesus has BECOME OUR MORTAL FLESH.
Can you not see my dear brothers and sisters in our Lord Jesus the CHRIST that Jesus was the IMAGE of Almighty God the Father in that what his God and Father was is CHARACTER so was Jesus. What ever the Father said to do, Jesus did through the power of the Holy Spirit of Almighty God the DWELT IN him. This is WHY Jesus is called the CHRIST, because Jesus was ANOINTED with the Holy Spirit of Almighty God.
This word MANIFEST does NOT mean that Almighty God the Father BECAME the SON Jesus. I just merely means that Jesus manifestly DECLARED the GOODNESS of hos God and Father in the LIFE that Jesus himself LIVED. And this SAME life of Jesus should be manifestly DECLARED in OUR MORTAL bodies of FLESH.
In Colossians 1:25-28 we read where this MYSTERY of the ANOINTING of the Holy Spirit DWELLING in the BELIEVER is MANIFEST in us in order that we may be perfect in the sight of God.
27. To whom God would make known (or in other words, to whom God would MANIFEST) what is the riches of the glory of THIS MYSTERY among the Gentiles; which is CHRIST IN YOU (or the ANOINTING of the Holy Spirit of Almighty God DWELLING IN YOU. In other words, the SAME ANOINTING of the Holy Spirit that DWELT IN Jesus, or the SPIRIT of CHRIST now DWELLS IN YOU), the hope of glory:
To get right down to it, THIS is the MAIN reason why I teach what I teach. To ME, as I look around at the body of Jesus the CHRIST, the church, I see many who are STRUGGLING desperately to stay faithful to God. And one of the REASONS to ME, is that they believe that Jesus IS GOD, and that because Jesus while he lived on the earth was GOD in the flesh was the REASON WHY he did all these wonderful WORKS of healing.
In other words, because of the teachings of the trinity and oneness man Christians see Jesus as the ONLY one who can live without sin, and some also see Jesus as the ONLY one to HEAL the sick because they see Jesus himself as being Almighty God.
But to ME. I see Jesus as a MAN just like you and me, who was tempted in every way like we are tempted and yet Jesus did NOT give into these temptations like many of us do. And the REASON to ME, seems to be that many Christians believe that ONLY Jesus was able to RESIST the temptation and NOT sin was because he was literally Almighty God in the FLESH.
Now to ME, this kind of teaching has become nothing more than an EXCUSE to continue to give into the temptation to sin.
The TRUTH of the matter is that we are CALLED to FOLLOW the EXAMPLE that Jesus set for us, which is to live OUR LIVE WITHOUT SIN. Please read 1 Peter 2:21-23, which says,
"For even hereunto were you CALLED: because Christ also suffered for us, LEAVING us an EXAMPLE, that you should FOLLOW HIS STEPS ( so what were the steps of Jesus, what was the example that he left for us to FOLLOW?):
23. Who, when he was reviled, reviled not again; when he suffered, he threatened not; but COMMITTED himself to HIM (speaking of his God and Father the ONE TRUE and ONLY ALMIGHTY God) that judges righteously:"
Jesus HIMSELF committed the KEEPING of himself from giving into the temptation to sin and THROUGH the power of the ETERNAL Holy Spirit of his God and Father that DWELT IN him, Jesus OVER CAME Satan the devil and lived his life WITHOUT SIN. Please read Hebrews 9:14, which clearly teaches us that Jesus THROUGH the Holy Spirit of Almighty God the Father offered himself WITHOUT SIN. In other words, THROUGH the power of the Holy Spirit Jesus lived his LIFE WITHOUT SIN so that he could offer himself as that perfect LAMB of God without spot or blemish for our sins.
"How much more shall the blood of Christ, WHO (clearly speaking of Jesus the CHRIST or Jesus the ANOINTED ONE of Almighty God the Father, Jesus) THROUGH the ETERNAL Spirit offered himself WITHOUT SPOT (or WITHOUT SIN) to God, purge your conscience from dead works to SERVE the living God?"
For a deeper understanding of HOW to live YOUR life WITHOUT SIN please read the study "HOW TO LIVE YOUR LIFE FREE FROM SIN".
To ME, I see that the word of TRUTH teaches us that Almighty God the Father is ETERNAL and that God is SPIRIT. And we have just seen that the SPIRIT is ETERNAL. So then, would it be jumping to conclusions to then say that the Holy Spirit is Almighty God, or at least what God IS.
You see, to ME, I do not see anywhere in the word of God that CLEARLY and PLAINLY says the JESUS was ALWAYS ETERNAL. Some teach that Jesus pre-existed ETERNALLY based on the scriptures that seem to say that Jesus IS the FATHER.
But IF this assumption is true, then WHY did Almighty God GIVEN Jesus LIFE as in ETERNAL LIFE in himself EVEN as Almighty God HAS life in HIMSELF? Please read John 5:14-30 where Jesus refutes the FALSE accusation of the Jesus that by simply calling Almighty God his FATHER that Jesus was MAKING HIMSELF EQUAL with Almighty God.
19. Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing OF himself, but what he sees the Father do: for what things soever he does, these also does the Son likewise. (In other words, what Jesus saw he God and Father do through him either in a vision or a dream, then Jesus then did what he saw the Father do through him when he saw the same circumstance come to pass in his life. PLAIN and SIMPLE Jesus himself was NOT making himself EQUAL with God, but rather was refuting this FALSE accusation from the Jews by telling them that he could do NOTHING in and OF HIMSELF, but it was Almighty God who was healing these people THROUGH him as a man of God whom God loved)
20. For (or because) the Father loves the Son, and shows him all things that himself does: and he will show him greater works than these, that you may marvel.
Now to ME, it does not matter if Jesus pre-existed eternally or not. The thing that matters to me and many others is all the CONTRADICTIONS with the word of God that make the claim and dogmatically teach the Jesus IS GOD, as in, Jesus IS ALMIGHTY God in the flesh.
For the ME, this false teaching CONTRADICTS the word of TRUTH in many places. For Example: here is a list of IF Jesus is TRULY God as some teach, then WHY...
Now you may not agree with anything I have said, and that is your right as a human being. We all have been given by God the right to CHOSE. As I said before, I RECEIVE you as my dear brothers and sisters in our Lord Jesus Christ if you believe in the doctrine of the trinity. And I RECEIVE you as my dear brothers and sisters in our Lord Jesus Christ if you believe in the doctrine of oneness. And I pray the you RECEIVE me as your brother in our Lord Jesus Christ even though I do not accept these man made doctrines of either the trinity nor the oneness teaching that Jesus is the Father.
It is my prayer that you at least CONSIDER what I have said and that you yourself pray and ask God what is the TRUTH in every area of doctrine.
Thanks for reading. May God bless you richly as you continue to seek the TRUTH of the WHOLE word of Almighty God. Below are some other verses that are used to try and support the doctrine of the trinity and the deity of Jesus. There may be other verses which you may be having trouble seeing any other way that what you were dogmatically taught, but I assure you that each and every verse used by those who teach the doctrine of the trinity does indeed have a different meaning that does NOT CONTRADICT any other part of God's word.
Your brother in our Lord Jesus Christ,
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Verses used to try and support the doctrine of the trinity.
Thanks for reading. May God bless you richly as you continue to seek the TRUTH of the WHOLE word of Almighty God.
Your brother in our Lord Jesus the CHRIST.
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