Ff-7. GEOCENTRISM VERSUS HELIOCENTRISM!


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Ff-7. GEOCENTRISM VERSUS HELIOCENTRISM!


For those of you who are not familiar with these two terms in the title they simply mean does the sun revolve around the earth? That is called geocentrism. Or does the earth revolve around the sun? That is called heliocentrism. Now, the science of geocentrism goes much deeper to say that the whole universe revolves around the earth. But many who believe in geocentrism do NOT believe that the earth is FLAT. But rather, geocentrism teaches that all the PLANETS and the stars are spherical in shape and they ALL revolve around the STATIONARY earth as being the CENTER of the entire universe which is ALSO SPHERICAL in shape. In other words. ONLY “flat earthers” believe that the earth is flat. And to them, it is the FLAT earth that is the center of the universe. 

But then there is another problem among “flat earthers”. For you see, not all “flat earthers” agree with each other. Some “flat earthers” believe that ONLY the sun and the moon are under the hard solid transparent DOME covering the flat earth and all the other celestial bodies in the universe are OUTSIDE the dome covering the flat earth. And thus the stars, planets, solar systems, and galaxies revolve in a circle above the dome of the flat earth where nothing but the bottomless pit is below the flat earth. And the “flat earthers” that try to squeeze the entire solar system of the earth inside the dome of the earth create all kinds of problems with their theory.

Now, the purpose of this study in God’s word is NOT to disprove geocentrism or heliocentrism because I believe that both sciences can blend together to prove that the heliocentric solar system in the Milky Way galaxy is really close to the REAL center of the entire universe which is the THRONE of Almighty God our creator. To me, Yahweh our creator is the God of gods of the whole universe. Yahweh is the creator of the universe and I myself believe that the center of the universe is God’s throne and NOT the SUN or the EARTH. 

There can be many secondary centers of rotation and circular movement. Scientists can see that each galaxy spins or moves in a spiral circular pattern. Now, I am no scientist but I know that science is ever-evolving and CHANGING with new and better information about the universe. In other words, scientists have had many theories in the past that other scientists have proven to be wrong. So who is to say that the scientists are not wrong about the center of the universe being trillions of light year miles away from the earth? Perhaps the earth is much CLOSER to the center of the universe and all three THEORIES, the Ptolemy theory, the Thyconian theory, and the Copernican theory are ALL correct IF they are blended together. Isaac Newton conceded that other theories COULD work IF there was some OTHER FORCE working with gravity. So for us as Christians why could that other force not be the spoken word of Almighty God himself ordaining the courses of the stars and the planets?


Please read Isaiah 40:26.


Lift up your eyes on high, and behold WHO has created these things, that brings out their host by number: he calls them ALL by NAMES by the greatness of his might, for that he is strong in power; not one fails.”


So why are Christians DIVIDED on this subject that only ONE theory can be correct? In other words, why do some Christians believe in heliocentrism while other Christians believe in geocentrism? Why can we not all believe in BOTH the earth revolving around the sun while our solar system revolves within the Milky Way galaxy which is CENTER of the entire universe? I myself believe that the entire universe revolves around the THRONE of Almighty God himself, the CREATOR of the universe and all that is within it? We do not have to believe some of the theories of some scientists that claim the earth is located in some distant obscure corner of the vast universe. Why not believe both science and the Bible and explore the possibility that both heliocentrism and geocentrism can be blended together. For you see, with God ALL things are POSSIBLE! So again, I am not trying to disprove either of these sciences called geocentrism and heliocentrism.

But rather, the purpose of this study in God’s word is to show WHY the “flat earther” Christians are in error to even use the science of Geocentrism to try and prove that the earth is FLAT. You see, Geocentrism teaches that WHILE the sun is revolving around the earth the sun is ALSO DRAGGING many other heavenly bodies along with it. 

So then, IS SO BE that the SUN is INSIDE the DOME of the earth then that means that a whole lot of other celestial bodies such as all the planets and the moons around those planets that are in our solar system are ALSO INSIDE the DOME of the earth.

Now the ONLY argument from the Scriptures as to why the entire universe revolves around the earth is the LITERAL INTERPRETATIONS made by both geocentric Christians and “false earther Christians. Here is how they usually quote the five verses they use to try and prove that the earth does NOT MOVE, spin, rotate on its axis or revolve around the sun.


1 Chronicles 16:30 “He has fixed the earth firm, immovable.”

Psalm 93:1Thou hast fixed the earth immovable and firm ...”

Psalm 96:10 “He has fixed the earth firm, immovable ...”

Psalm 104:5 “Thou didst fix the earth on its foundation so that it never can be shaken.”

Isaiah 45:18 “...who made the earth and fashioned it, and himself fixed it fast...”


My short quick answer is that the words Fixed and immoveable simply means to REMAIN and God will change the surface of the earth like a GARMENT. NONE of these verses mean or even imply that the earth is MOTIONLESS. Let us take each verse and interpret them in their CONTEXT in the LIGHT of the WHOLE word of Almighty God.


Please read 1 Chronicle 16:30-33.


“Fear before him, all the earth: the WORLD also shall be STABLE, that it be not MOVED. 

31.  Let the heavens be glad, and let the earth rejoice: and let men say among the nations, The LORD reigns. 

32.  Let the sea roar, and the fulness thereof: let the fields rejoice, and all that is therein. 

33.  Then shall the trees of the wood sing out at the presence of the LORD, because he comes to JUDGE the earth.”


This verse has nothing to do with the creation of the earth not moving. But rather this passage of Scripture is speaking of the WRATH and the JUDGMENT of God who will lift his wrath lest no flesh be left alive. Jesus said that had not the days be shortened that no flesh would be alive, But for the elect's sake, God shortened the days of the great tribulation. Also, the earth will MOVE in the day of God’s wrath.


Please read Isaiah 24:17-22.


“Fear, and the pit, and the snare, are upon you, O inhabitant of the earth. 

18.  And it shall come to pass, that he who flees from the noise of the fear shall fall into the pit; and he that comes up out of the midst of the pit shall be taken in the snare: for the windows from on high are open, and the foundations of the earth do shake. (Or even the righteous will shake) 

19.  The earth is utterly broken down, the earth is clean dissolved, the earth is MOVED exceedingly

20.  The earth shall reel to and fro like a drunkard, and shall be REMOVED like a cottage, and the transgression thereof shall be heavy upon it, and it shall fall, and not rise again. 

21.  And it shall come to pass in that day, that the LORD shall punish the host of the high ones that are on high and the kings of the earth upon the earth. 

22.  And they shall be gathered together, as prisoners are gathered in the pit, and shall be shut up in the prison, and after many days (Speaking of the 1000 years bound in the pit during the Millennial reign of Jesus) shall they be visited.”


Let s look at the next verse.


Psalm 93:1.


“The LORD REIGNS, he is clothed with majesty; the LORD is clothed with strength, wherewith he has girded himself: the WORLD also is established, that it cannot be moved. (Again, this verse is speaking of the second coming of Jesus to execute the WRATH of God and establish his throne upon the earth. Keep in mind that in both the Hebrew and the Greek word translated as the earth ALSO mean the world, as in, the inhabitants dwelling the earth. They also mean the LAND, the ground, and a country. So the translators could have made an error in some verses to say the earth when it should read the WORLD.)

2.  Your throne is established of old: you are from everlasting. (In other words, God's throne will not END. So again, the earth being immovable simply means that God did not create the earth in VAIN. God created the earth to REMAIN and be INHABITED. In Genesis 1 God created the heaven and the earth and then the earth BECAME VOID, and EMPTY and chaos, war and darkness were upon the FACE of the now FLOODED earth. The Genisis account is God RECREATING the SURFACE of the earth to REPLENISH the earth that was made EMPTY of its previous inhabitants. God then ORDAINED or laid the foundation, the RULES and the OUTCOME of Satan, the fallen angels, darkness, sin, and the LIGHT which will inherit the new earth when all that God sid in done at the end of the 1000 year reign of Jesus)

3.  The floods have lifted up, O LORD, the floods have lifted up their voice; the floods lift up their waves. (The word floods is the prophetic language for armies. Revelation 11:15 teaches us that Jesus is coming to destroy them that are DESTROYING the world. So the earth NOT being MIVED simply means that God is NOT going to allow men to DESTROY the earth)

4  The LORD on high is mightier than the noise of many waters, yea, than the mighty waves of the sea. (Waters speaks of PEOPLE and the sea speaking of the WICKED people)

5.  Your testimonies are very sure: (Or your FOUNDING of the earth declaring the END from the beginning are VERY SURE) holiness becomes your house, O LORD, forever.”



Let us go ahead and read Revelation 11:15-18.


“And the seventh angel sounded; (The LAST trumpet) and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world have become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ, and he shall reign forever and ever. (Speaking of the second coming of Jesus)

16.  And the four and twenty elders, which sat before God on their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshipped God, 

17.  Saying, We give you thanks, O Lord God Almighty, which are, and was, and are to come; because you have taken to you your great power, and have reigned

18.  And the nations were angry, and your WRATH has come, and the time of the dead, that they should be JUDGED, and that you should give reward unto your servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and should destroy them which destroy the earth.”



God prophesied after the restoration of the earth in Genesis 1 that the earth world not be MOVED, as in, the earth would not be DESTROYED. God did not create the earth in vain. But rather, God created the earth to be INHABITED.


Please read Isaiah 45:18.


“For thus says the LORD that created the heavens; God himself that formed the earth and made it; he has established it, he created it not in vain, he formed it to be inhabited: I am the LORD, and there is none else.”


In other words, God created the earth to REMAIN and to NOT be MOVED. Let us move on to the next verse that the “flat earthers” interpret as the earth being MOTIONLESS.


Psalm 96:10.


“Say among the heathen that the LORD reigns: the WORLD also shall be established that it shall not be moved: he shall JUDGE the people righteously. (Meaning Jesus will not slay ALL the wicked and the unsaved. A REMNANT shall not be MOVED, as in, destroyed and made EMPTY of all its INHABITANTS And if radical Muslims in their hatred of the Jews use nuclear weapons then the whole population of the earth could be exterminated, But God will NOT ALOOW that to happen. Jesus will return just in the nick of time to destroy those who are DESTROYING the earth)

11.  Let the heavens rejoice, and let the earth be glad; let the sea roar, and the fulness thereof. 

12.  Let the field be joyful, and all that is therein: then shall all the trees of the wood rejoice 

13.  Before the LORD: for he comes, for he comes to JUDGE the earth: he shall judge the WORLD with righteousness, and the people with his truth.”


 

Again, this passage of Scripture is speaking about the WRATH and the JUDGMENT of God at the second coming of Jesus and has nothing to do with the creation of God creating the earth MOTIONLESS. Let us move on to the next verse that the “flat earthers” use to try and prove that the earth has a LITERAL foundation and thus the earth is FIXED firmly in a stationary place and the entire universe circles above the dom of the flat earth.


Please read Psalm 104:5.


“Who laid (Or who ORDAINED) the foundations (Or the ABODE of the inhabitants) of the earth, that it (The INHABITABLE part of the earth) should not be removed forever.”


The Hebrew word translated as laid also means ordained, established, and appointed. And the Hebrew word translated as foundations also means ABODE or the dwelling places on the earth would not be destroyed by men that the earth would become inhabitable due to nuclear fallout radiation. God did NOT create the earth in VAIN. God created the earth to be INHABITED. Also, another meaning of the Hebrew word translated as removed means not fallen into decay. People die from generation to generation but the earth REMAINS. This earth is not MOVED. The earth will never fall in to decay to become uninhabitable.


Please read Psalm 119:90,91.


“Your faithfulness is unto all generations: you have established the earth, and it ABIDES. (Or it REMAINS. It is not moved. Again, the earth not being moved and made immovable does NOT mean that the earth is MOTIONLESS. It simply means that the earth will REMAIN inhabited)

91.  They continue this day according to your ordinances: for all are your servants.” 


Let us take a look at the last verse used by “flat earthers” to try and prove that the earth does not revolve around the sun. But let me quote this verse OUT of its CONTEXT first jut like the “flat earthers” do because they do not want you to see the TRUE meaning of this verse. You might start THINKING for yourself and see that they are DECEIVING you.


Here is how the “flat earthers quote Isaiah 45:18.


Isaiah 45:18 “...who made the earth and fashioned it, and himself fixed it fast...”


 Now let us read the WHOLE verse along with verse 17.


Isaiah 45:17,18.


“ But Israel shall be saved in the LORD with an everlasting salvation: you shall not be ashamed nor confounded world without end. (And NOT world without MOVEMENT. But rather, the earth, the solar system, the galaxy, and the entire universe will remain without FAILING because God created all things NOT to FAIL)

18.  For thus says the LORD that created the heavens; God himself that formed the earth and made it; he has established it, (Or God has ORDAINED the earth and the inhabitants)  he created it not in VAIN, he formed it to be INHABITED: I am the LORD, and there is none else.” 


Let us read that verse in Isaiah 40:26 again.


Isaiah 40:26.


Lift up your eyes on high, and behold WHO has created these things, that brings out their host by number: he calls them ALL by NAMES by the greatness of his might, for that he is strong in power; not ONE fails.”


We as Christians have our faith in God’s word. We know that God loves us and he is keeping us by the power of the gospel of salvation. So let the scientist argue how the universe works leaving our Almighty creator out of THEIR equations. I KNOW in WHOM I have believed and I am fully persuaded the HE is able KEED that which I  have committed to Him against the day of our Lord’s return. We do not have to know HOW the universe works and which THEORIES the scientists come up with as to how the universe works are correct or incorrect.

So if you are a heliocentric Christian the prove you faith in that theory BY using the word of Almighty God ALONE.

And if you are a geocentric Christian then prove your faith in that THEORY BY using the word of Almighty God ALONE.

Let us leave the opinions of scientists out of our equation and use ONLY the Bible to govern what we believe. And then lets us chose the BEST scientific theory that AGREES with what the WHOLE word of Almighty God teaches us.

Now in the remainder of this study I what to point out some CONTRADICTIONS that I came across while watching a geocentric teaching video on YouTube by Robert Sungenis called the Journey to the Center of the Universe a Scientific Documentary. It is a long 2 hour plus video so I do not want to waste your time to have you watch the whole video. So I have made some notes on the places in this video where the contradictions are and where Dr, Robert Sungenis has taken the words of scientist OUT of their CONTEXT.

The first CONTRADICTION is that Robert Sungenis says that the earth turns or rotates to explain that the Foucault Pendulum works of BOTH the heliocentric model AND the geocentric model. If you want to hears his words with your own hears then click on the link above and skip to 1 hour 12 minutes and 8 seconds and listen closely. Watch as he ROTATES his hands. He is telling you that the earth is a SPHERE that ROTATES on its axis just like in the heliocentric view. Now skip to the end of the video presentation where he answers questions by Christians. Slide the red dot on the time bar to 2 hours and 31 minutes, 2:31:00 and listen closely to the question he is asked. This man asked him point-blank this question. Does the earth SPIN on its axis and Dr. Robert Sungensis quickly and abruptly answered NO! The universe goes around the earth CARRYING the PLANETS WITH IT.

So how can “flat earthers” even think of using the geocentric THEORY to try and prove that the earth is flat and it is covered by a hard solid transparent DOME with the SUN and the moon INSIDE the DOME over the FLAT earth? For you see, geocentrism teaches that the earth is a SPHERE and that the sun revolves around the entire SPHERICAL earth DRAGGING the planets with it. In other words, the theory of geocentrism DISPROVES the FLAT earth theory.

Before I end this study in God's word, I would like you to imagine a spherical dome with a ball suspended inside and a line is drawn around the spherical dome that represents the equator. Imagine all the stars on the outside of this spherical dome covering the earth. Imagine all the stars circling the spherical dome of the earth. Now, if so be the firmament of the earth is indeed SPHERICAL then you could see ALL the stars circling the earth. And on our real genuine spherical earth, we can indeed see all the visible stars in heaven. BUT we cannot see ALL the stars on the FLAT earth model. In THEORY, you can but in reality, you cannot. In other words, in theory, you could see the North Star from Australia on a flat earth. BUT in real life, you can NOT see the North Star from Australia.

Please watch these two very short two minute videos and notice that the stars rotate in the OPPOSITE direction in the southern hemiSPHERE than they do in the northern hemiSPHERE. This would be IMPOSSIBLE on the FLAT earth.

Here are links to two videos, very short vides on YouTube, just 2 minutes long showing the stars rotating from different cardinal points on EACH of the hemispheres of the earth. And as you can plainly see, the DIFFERENT stars in each hemisphere rotate in the OPPOSITE direction. And that would be IMPOSSIBLE if the earth was flat. Please take less than five minutes to watch BOTH videos.


MOVING STARS OF THE NORTHERN HEMISPHERE


MOVING STARS OF THE SOUTHERN HEMISPHERE

 

Now again, on the flat earth model, the stars would ALWAYS rotate in the SAME direction no matter WHERE you are on the earth. So the rotation of the STARS rotating in OPPOSITE directions from one hemisphere to the next hemisphere proves beyond any shadow of a doubt that the earth is a SPHERE just like the Bible ITSELF teaches us when you CORRECTLY interpret the Scriptures.

Also, please consider closely that on our REAL GENUINE SPHERICAL earth that the Bible ACTUALLY teaches us, the NORTH star can NOT be seen when you cross into the southern hemiSPHERE. Here is a quote from a website called EARTH SKY that you can check out for yourself. The emphasis is mine.

 

As you travel northward, Polaris climbs higher in the sky. If you go as far north as the North Pole, you’ll see Polaris directly overhead.

As you travel south, Polaris DROPS closer to the northern horizon.

If you get as far as the equator, Polaris SINKS to the horizon.

South of the equator, Polaris DROPS OUT of the SKY.

 

And if you do not trust the information then you can do your own research. If you know someone who lives in the southern hemisphere that you trust then you can send them the information on the website where I got this quote and ask them if they can see the BIG DIPPER and the NORTH STAR. Or you can do the experiment yourself if you TRULY desire to know the TRUTH of the WHOLE word of Almighty God that teaches us that the earth is a SPHERE that HANGS upon NOTHING and fly to Australia and see if you can see the NORTH star. You should be able to if so be the earth is flat.

So then, is NASA and SCIENCE the ones that are lying and DECEIVING Christians? OR is it the Illuminati, the hand behind the UNITED NATIONS pushing for a ONE world government that is NOT prophesied in the Bible. In other words, is the Illuminati responsible for reviving the ancient teaching of the FLAT earth in order to DECEIVE and DIVIDE Christians? Please visit these two websites so you can see with your own eyes that the EMBLEM and SEAL of the United Nations are the same images that the “flat earthers” use. And after you have clicked on both links to see for yourself that the Illuminati is the hand behind the United Nations, then we will continue covering the rest of the verses used to try and prove that the earth is flat.

I want all my readers to CLOSELY consider the following questions? WHAT is the DECEPTION? Is the teaching that the earth is “SPHERE” the deceptions? OR is it the teaching that the earth is FLAT that is the deception? I want my readers to examine the FACTS real close so you can see which is the TRUE deception and WHO it is that founded this deception. Please closely consider what God led me to find while doing my OWN research on whether the earth is flat or whether the earth is a sphere. Here is a quote from another website called Art Sign Works Incorporated. I want to read the quote first and then I want you to click on the LINK and go to that website and look at the LOGO emblem SEAL of the UNITED NATIONS.

 

“On the right is shown a design for a carved wall plaque of the emblem/seal/crest for the United Nations (UN).”

 

Did you see that? It is the SAME picture of the FLAT earth that “flat earthers” use in their model of the flat earth. WHY would the UNITED NATIONS use this image of the FLAT earth as their SEAL, logo, and emblem? Now please read a quote from another website called Queens Museum and you will see WHY the United Nations uses the FLAT earth model as their SEAL. Again, please read the quote first and then click on the LINK and go to that website and view ANOTHER picture used by the UNITED NATIONS and you will see WHO is BEHIND the United Nations.

 

The People’s United Nations (pUN) is an event and exhibition by Mexican artist Pedro Reyes. The event takes place on November 23-24, 2013, and the exhibition runs from November 9, 2013-March 30, 2014. Pedro Reyes: The People’s United Nations (pUN) is a playful homage to the United Nations, inspired by the fact that the global body’s General Assembly met from 1946-1950 in the building that later became the Queens Museum...This experimental gathering will test Reyes’ hypothesis that, since diplomacy has not yet solved the world’s problems, conflict-resolution techniques proven in other fields should be tried instead...Welcome to the People’s United Nations (pUN)an exhibition and performance by Pedro Reyes!...pUN is made up of over 150 citizen-delegates from the 195 member and observer states of the (real) United Nations. They’re with us today to use popular theater and other techniques to grapple with real-world problems from a personal, playful perspective.”

 

Now please click on the LINK and go to that website and view the PICTURE used by the UNITED NATIONS (pUN). Did you see the all-seeing EYE in the HAND that is behind the UNITED NATIONS? Most Christians know and understand that the image of the all-seeing eye is the logo and emblem of the Illuminati. So anyone with eyes to see and ears to hear can clearly see that it is the ILLUMINATI that is behind the DECEPTION of the FLAT earth and NOT some so-called deception of the earth being a SPHERE as the flat earthers CLAIM.

Please consider reading all the studies I have written on this subject on whether or not the BIBLE teaches us that the earth is FLAT or whether the earth is SPHERICAL in shape. Please click on the following link to find a list of links to all the studies showing the ERRORS of INTERPRETATION made by “flat earther” Christians to try and prove the earth is flat. >>>DOES THE BIBLE TEACH THE EARTH IS FLAT?<<< I have added several more studies since the first five-part series.

Thanks for reading and may God bless you richly as you continue to seek the TRUTH of the WHOLE word of Almighty God.



Your Brother in our Lord Jesus Christ,

Brother Mark.




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