W-18. All the “No God BESIDE ME” VERSES!


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W-18. ALL THE “No GOD BESIDE ME” VERSES!

 

 

What do the “NO GOD BESIDE ME” verses of Scripture TRULY mean in the LIGHT of the WHOLE word of Almighty God? Do they mean that Yahweh is ONE God in ONE person?  Do they mean that Yahweh is the ONLY TRUE God who is the ALMIGHTY God over and above all other gods? Do they mean that in the beginning there was only Yahweh and no other God was with Yahweh in eternity past?

And the question that causes the greatest controversy is WHO is Jesus? Is Jesus the One God is ONE person? Is Jesus it ONLY TRUE God? Ia Jesus the ALMIGHTY God above and over and above all of the other gods? Did Jesus ALWAYS exist as God?

Or did Jesus BECOME a God under and subject to his God and Father after the cross?

What do the “NO GOD BESIDE ME” verses truly teach us in the LIGHT of the WHOLE word of Almighty God?

Let us begin this study in God’s word with the first of the Ten Commandments.

 

Deuteronomy 5:7.

 

“You shall have none, other gods, before me.” 

 

The Hebrew word that is translated as You shall not have any other Gods “BEFORE” Yahweh means ABOVE, OVER, and AGAINST Yahweh. What Christians have failed to see when interpreting the Scriptures is that God is at war with Lucifer who is now called Satan the “god” of this present world who wants to be worshipped ABOVE Yahweh. And God is warning us to NOT choose Satan or any of the fallen angels as our God because our God is ONE Lord according to this next verse of Scripture.

 

Please read Deuteronomy 6:4.

 

“Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:”

 

This verse literally reads “PERCEIVE O Israel, Yahweh our Elohim is ONE Yahweh”

 

Remember that God HIDES prophecy of future NEW THINGS while at the SAME time tells us the HISTORY of the FORMER things. So the HISTORY side of this verse is saying that the One God of the Old Testament was ONE God in ONE PERSON. And the PROPHECY side of this verse is saying pay attention and PERCEIVE that Yahweh our Elohim is ALTOGETHER Yahweh. For you see, the Greek word “echad” means BOTH one single person as well as meaning unity as altogether the Father and His FUTURE Son are Yahweh TOGETHER ruling side by side. Here is how E-Sword defines the Hebrew word “echad”.

 

H259

אֶחָד

'echâd

ekh-awd'

A numeral from H258; properly united, that is, one; or (as an ordinal) first: - a, alike, alone, altogether, and, any (-thing), apiece, a certain [dai-] ly, each (one), + eleven, every, few, first, + highway, a man, once, one, only, other, some, together.

 

Some Christians try to force only ONE meaning of “echad” to either mean one God in ONE person all the time. Or one God in three persons all the time, as in, there was never a time when God was ONE PERSON. Now to ME, Trinitarians have a problem using the meaning of three Gods in UNITY to try and prove that Yahweh is ONE God is THREE separate persons but NOT three separate Gods. BUT If Jesus is truly a separate God then the Hebrew word “echad” would fit the true Jesus. Yahweh IS One God is ONE PERSON who created another God that He NAMED Yahweh AFTER the cross.

Now, I myself believe this to be the true sound Biblical meaning of Deuteronomy 6:4 because the very next verse has a HIDDEN prophecy of Jesus. It is hidden because the two Hebrew letters, the Aleph and the Tav, are NOT translated. Let us read the context of verse 4 by reading Deuteronomy 6:1-5 with the Aleph and the Tav in view. And when you read the Aleph and the Tav try seeing that Yahweh is prophesying His yet future Messiah Jesus while hiding it from Satan His enemy.


Deuteronomy 6:1-5.

 

 “Now these are the commandments, the statutes, and the judgments, which the LORD your God commanded to teach you, that ye might do them in the land whither ye go to possess it: 

2.  THAT (Or so THAT) you might fear the (ALEPH TAV- Messiah Jesus) LORD your God, to keep (ALEPH TAV- Messiah Jesus) all his statutes and his commandments, which I command you, you, and your son, and your son's son, all the days of your life; and that your days may be prolonged. 

3.  Hear (Or pay attention and PERCEIVE) THEREFORE, (Or for this very reason of WHY I and giving you these commandments as your SCHOOLMASTER to lead you to your Messiah Jesus so that you will NOT take my NAME in VAIN but rather that you will obey his commandment that I will put in his mouth for you to keep under the NEW COVENANT that I will make with you) O Israel, and observe to do it; that it may be well with you, and that you may increase mightily, as the LORD God of your fathers has promised you, in the land that flows with milk and honey. 

4  Hear, (Or pay attention and PERCEIVE) O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD: 

5.  AND you shall love (ALEPH TAV- Messiah Jesus) the LORD your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your might.”

 

So you can see from these two verses that it is NOT about having any other Gods but rather to not have any other God ABOVE, OVER, and AGAINST Yahweh. And Jesus as being ANOTHER God does not make Jesus a violation of the first commandment because in this second verse we can clearly see from the HIDDEN prophecy that God is teaching us of a second Yahweh that will rule for Yahweh in the NAME OF Yahweh in the world yet to come. Let us continue to take a closer look at some more of the famous Oneness and Trinitarian verses of Scripture in the Old Testament that are used to try and FORCE Jesus to BE Yahweh Himself.


Deuteronomy 32:39.  

 

“See NOW that I, even I, am he, and there is no god with me: I kill, and I make alive; I wound, and I heal: neither is there any that can deliver out of my hand.”

 

Both Oneness Christians and Trinitarian Christians take verses out of the context and string several verses together and when you listen to the Oneness Christians then the Oneness argument seems right. But when you listen to the Trinitarian Christians then the Trinitarian argument seems right. And when you listen to the argument against the Oneness doctrine then the Oneness doctrine seems to be in error. And when you listen to the arguments against the doctrine of the Trinity then the doctrine of the Trinity seems to be in error. 

Now, I believe that the reason why this debate between Oneness Christians and Trinitarian Christians has gone on for well over 1000 years is that BOTH Oneness Christians and Tritarain Christians seem to think that they MUST believe in ONE of these TWO doctrines and there is NO other OPTION. Both sides have spent so much time trying to FORCE Jesus to be Yahweh Himself that they have not TRULY taken a close look at the possibility that Jesus just might be ANOTHER God. Not another creator God, but rather, another God by TITLE who was FORMED by Yahweh to replace Lucifer as the God, “by TITLE”, of the whole earth so THAT God can JUDGE Lucifer and the fallen angels BY the MAN Jesus Christ. And then God can DESTROY Lucifer and the fallen angels to END sin for all eternity.

So another possible meaning of Deuteronomy 32:39 that we just read is that there are no ELOHIM or no further angel gods WITH Yahweh anymore, as in, on Yahweh’s side. Lucifer convinced ONE-THIRD of the Elohim to make war with Yahweh. And God’s people Israel have gone after these false gods who seek to be worshipped. Some false gods are “superstitious false idol gods” but there is also worshiping of angels and devils which are “real” gods who are AGAINST Yahweh. They used to be good Gods that Yahweh set to be mighty rulers but back before the rebellion began they did NOT seek to be worshipped. But now, they are NO FURTHER Gods WITH Yahweh, they are gods AGAINST Yahweh. Please understand that the word God is a TITLE and ONLY the Almighty God is the ONLY TRUE God who is the God OF all other Gods.

 

Here is Deuteronomy 32:39 again.  

 

“See NOW that I, even I, am he, (Or See, NOW that I, I,[and] he), and there is no god WITH me: (Or no FURTHER God WITH me) I kill, and I make alive; I wound, and I heal: neither is there any that can deliver out of my hand.” 

 

In the Hebrew and Greek languages, this would read in English something like “Look as see! Now THAT I Yahweh, I [and] he [My King Jesus], I am putting to death and I am making alive, I transfixed or astonished [with my wrath] and I will heal, and there is no from the hand of me rescuing, and NO FURTHER god with me.” Or no further fallen gods with me.

When we read this verse in context as prophecy we can see verse 40 speaking of Yahweh lifting up his “hand” referring to highly exalting the Son of MAN, Jesus up into heaven and Yahweh saying to him LIVE forever. And then in verses 41, 42, we can see Yahweh’s vengeance being executed by His “sword” referring to the now highly exalted Jesus along with Yahweh’s “arrows” referring to us, the SAINTS.

 

Deuteronomy 32: 40-43.

 

“For I lift up my hand to heaven, (Or I exalt my hand to be seated with me in heaven on my throne) and say, I live forever. (Or I say to him LIVE forever) 

41.  If I whet my glittering sword, and my hand take hold on judgment; (Yahweh made Jesus to be His new threshing instrument. Jesus is the glittering sword in Yahweh’s hand. It is Yahweh’s vengeance but Jesus will execute the wrath of god because Yahweh the Father COMMITTED all judgment to the now highly exalted Son of MAN, Jesus) I will render vengeance to my enemies, and will reward them that hate me. 

42.  I will make my arrows drunk with blood, and my sword shall devour flesh; and that with the blood of the slain and of the captives, from the beginning of the revenges upon the enemy

43.  Rejoice, O you nations, with his people: for he (Our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ being backed by Yahweh) will avenge the blood of his servants, and will render vengeance to his adversaries, and will be merciful unto his land, and to his people.”

 

And it will be all to the glory of Yahweh the Father who provided or GAVE us His Son, Jesus, who in turn gave his own life of his own free will on the cross to become our Lord and Savior. Let us move on to another famous Oneness and Trinitarian verse of Scripture in the Old Testament that is used to try and force Jesus to BE Yahweh Himself.

 

2 Samuel 7:22.  

 

“Wherefore you are great, O LORD God: for there is none like you, neither is there any God beside you, according to all that we have heard with our ears.”

 

You already know the Oneness and Trinitarian interpretation of this verse OUT of its CONTEXT so allow me to give you my interpretation of this verse IN its CONTEXT. I will first give you my interpretation of 2 Samuel 7:22 being alone and then we will read the context.

 

Here is my own paraphrased interpretation of 2 Samuel 7:22.  

 

“Wherefore you are great, O LORD. Until my Lord there is none in the past like You, According to all that we have heard [In the past] with our ears, none is God except You,”

 

Now let us read the context to see if this interpretation agrees with the context and the rest of God’s word as well. We will begin with verse 11 where Yahweh is speaking to King David in a vision. There are also several Aleph Tav hidden prophecies of Messiah Jesus who is My Lord or whom Yahweh MADE Lord after the cross.

 

2 Samuel 7:11-22.

 

“And as since the time that I commanded judges to be over my people Israel, and (I, Yahweh) have caused you (Speaking of King David) to rest from all your enemies. Also, the LORD tells you that he will make you a house. (I will dwell in the house of Yahweh forever. This last phrase LITERALLY reads “Yahweh tells you THAT HOUSE he SHALL MAKE for you Yahweh” So we see TWO persons named Yahweh. In other verses we find that Yahweh GIVES His Son Jesus His very one name Yahweh AFTER the cross to rule for Yahweh in the NAME OF Yahweh)

12.  And when your days are fulfilled, and you shall sleep with your fathers, I will SET UP your (ALEPH TAV Messiah Jesus) seed after you, which shall proceed out of your bowels, and I will establish (ALEPH TAV Messiah Jesus) his kingdom. (You can see how Jesus is Yahweh’s WORKMANSHIP as opposed to being Yahweh Himself)

13.  He shall build a house for my name, (Or to my glory) and I will establish the (ALEPH TAV Messiah Jesus) throne of his kingdom forever. 

14.  I WILL BE his Father, and he SHALL BE my Son. If he commits iniquity, I will chasten him with the rod of men, and with the stripes of the children of men: (Jesus LEARNED obedience. Jesus was TAUGHT how to refuse evil and choose the GOOD during his childhood. All children under the age of accountability are not accountable for their sins. We know for certain that Jesus did NOT sin during the days of his ministry)

15.  But my mercy shall not depart away from him, as I took it from Saul, whom I put away before you. 

16.  And your house and your kingdom shall be established forever before you: your throne shall be established forever. 

17.  According to all these words, and according to all this vision, so did Nathan speak unto David.

18.  Then went king David in, (Speaking of in the VISION) and sat before the LORD, (Yahweh) and he said, Who am I, O Lord GOD? (Or who, I,  my Lord, Yahweh. Or Yahweh who is he that is your Lord speaking PROPHETICALLY) and what is my house, that You have brought me hitherto? (David is asking Yahweh what this vision means, as in, why. Yahweh, am I being compared to my Lord who will be with You in the future?)

19.  And THIS (Speaking of the yet future of making a human being Lord) was yet a small thing in Your sight, O Lord GOD; (My Lord, Yahweh. The word God is the four Hebrew letters YHWH. So this phrase could read An THIS my Lord was yet a small thing in your eye Yahweh) but You have SPOKEN also in Your servant's house for a great while TO COME. And is THIS the manner of man, O Lord GOD? (Or And THIS succession of MAN [To be made] my Lord, Yahweh [Is also for a great while to come. The Hebrew word translated as “manner” means custom and its root meaning is SUCCESSION)

20.  And what can David say more unto You? For You, Lord GOD, know Your (ALEPH TAV Messiah Jesus) servant

21.  For Your word's sake, and according to Your own heart, have You done (ALEPH TAV Messiah Jesus) all these great things, to make (ALEPH TAV Messiah Jesus) Your servant know them. (Or Yahweh, You have done THIS to make You Messiah Jesus Your servant known to them. Now read my own paraphrase version of verse 22 again)

22.  WHEREFORE (Or for this reason) O LORD. Until my Lord there is none in the past like You, According to all that we have heard [In the past] with our ears, none is God except You,” 

 

And as you continue reading the context below verse 22 as prophecy you will see a prophecy prophesying to Yahweh’s yet future Messiah to read this prophecy as a PRAYER to Yahweh. You will see that King David said to Yahweh that Yahweh REVEALS the God of Israel to him. Remember that the name Israel means he shall RULE AS God. Let us go ahead and read 2 Samuel 7:26-29. Again, I will translate Aleph Tav as ALEPH TAV Messiah Jesus.

 

2 Samuel 7:25-29.

 

“And now, O LORD God, the word that You have spoken concerning Your servant, (The LITERAL translation reads “And now Yahweh, ELOHIM the word which You spoke ON your servant.” In other words, in the beginning, was the word and the word was TOWARD God and ELOHIM was the word spoken by Yahweh ON His Servant, Messiah Jesus to be MADE Lord and God of the whole earth during the world yet to come) and concerning his house, establish it forever, and do as thou hast said. 

26. And let Your NAME be magnified (Or and he shall be magnified NAME of You) forever, saying, The LORD of hosts is the God over Israel: (Or the SAYING shall be Yahweh of the host, Elohim over Israel. Meaning Yahweh over the host in Heaven and Messiah Jesus God over Israel. To THIS END was Messiah Jesus BORN)) and let the house of Your servant David be established before You. (NOT King David, but rather, Your servant Messiah Jesus be established before You. The LITERAL reads he shall become established to face of You. Meaning that Jesus is exalted to be seated at the right hand of Yahweh’s side on Yahweh’s throne. Never before Jesus did Yahweh share His glory to such a degree. Nor will Yahweh ever do it again because there will be no need. Jesus is the FIRST and the LAST to be exalted to such a high position as second in command to only have Yahweh Himself above him)

27.  For You, O LORD of hosts, God of Israel, have revealed to your servant, (Or You Yahweh have REVEALED God of Israel Your servant to [me] Your servant [King David]) saying, I will build you a house: THEREFORE, have Your servant found in (ALEPH TAV Messiah Jesus) his HEART to PRAY this prayer unto You

28.  And now, O Lord GOD, You are that God and Your words be true, and You have promised (ALEPH TAV Messiah Jesus) this goodness unto Your servant: (Or You have promised this goodness unto (ALEPH TAV Messiah Jesus) Your servant)

29  THEREFORE now let it please you to bless the house of your servant, that it may continue forever before you: for you, O Lord GOD, hast spoken it: and with your blessing let the house of your servant be blessed forever.”

 

I am going to skip 1 Chronicles 17:5 because it is the same as 2 Samuel 7:22 that we just covered. And I am also going to skip all of the “Holy One of Israel” verses in this particular study but I will cover them in another study. For you see, most of the “Holy One of Israel” verses actually refer to the future Messiah Jesus as being the Holy One of Israel. This brings us to Psalm 86:10 on the list of the 25 verses used by Oneness Pentecostal Christians to try and prove that Jesus IS the ONE God in ONE person of the Old Testament.

 

Psalm 86:10.  

 

“For You are great, and do wondrous things: You are God alone.”

 

Again, as I have said many times when we read verses of Scripture OUT of their context they may SEEM to be saying something that they are NOT TRULY saying. Or more precisely, verses of Scripture can be FORCE to say something that they are NOT TRULY saying.

Yes, this Scripture IS, INDEED, saying that Yahweh is God ALONE but it is NOT saying that Jesus IS Yahweh. For you see, the one praying this prayer TO Yahweh that IS God ALONE is King David who is also a PROPHET. And Psalm 86 is a PROPHECY of Jesus praying this same prayer TO his God and Father Yahweh who is God ALONE. So Jesus is praying TO Yahweh his God and Father saying YOU are great and do wondrous things, YOU are God ALONE. And this agrees with Jesu clearly identifying the Father as the ONLY TRUE God in John 17:1-3.

So then, this verse actually PROVES that Jesus is NOT Yahweh Himself in the flesh, as in, the PERSON of Jesus himself is NOT Yahweh. Yes, Yahweh did, indeed, come and DWELL IN the flesh OF Jesus but God Himself is NOT a MAN or the Son OF MAN according to Numbers 23:19 and Hosea 11:9. In the CONTEXT of Psalm 86:10, we also see that Yahweh is AMONG the Gods as being God ALONE. So what this verse is saying is that Yahweh is the Almighty crater God and none of the other Gods are like Yahweh who ALONE in ONE person is THE ONLY TRUE God.

Please read Psalm 86:8-13,  

 

Among the gods, there is none like unto You, O Lord; neither are there any works like unto your works. (Now, IF there are no other gods, then how can the one TRUE God be AMONG the gods? These are the ELOHIM gods or the angles that Yahweh SET to be gods over different parts of His creation)

9  All nations whom You have made shall come and worship before thee, O Lord; and shall glorify Your name

10.  For You are great and do wondrous things: You are God alone.

11.  Teach me Your way, O LORD; I will walk in Your truth: unite my heart to fear thy name. (Or make our heart ONE. In another psalm Yahweh says, I have found my servant David, a MAN AFTER my own heart which is ALSO a PROPHECY of Jesus. For you see, it was Jesus whose SOUL was NOT left in Hell, according to the fulfillment of these prophecies in Acts 13:33-37, another Psalm 16:10, and Acts 2:27-31)

12.  I will praise You, O Lord MY God, with all my heart: and I will glorify Your name forevermore. 

13.  For great is Your mercy toward me: and You have delivered my SOUL from the lowest hell.”

 

 

Let us move to the next verse which is Isaiah 37:16. And as you read the verses in the Old Testament read them as BOTH history AND as being PROPHECY. For you see, in eternity PAST Yahweh was ALONE and by Himself. Yahweh has always been and will ALWAYS be one God in ONE person. But the Father has BEGAT Himself a Son who has JOINED Him on His throne.  So the “history” side of Isaiah 27:16 is Yahweh being called the God of Israel. But the “prophecy” side of Isaiah 37:16 is TWO God ruling together in UNITY as one God. This is NOT the doctrine of the Trinity because the doctrine of the Trinity wrongly teaches that the Father and the Son ALWAYS existed and that is NOT what the Bible ITSELF teaches us.

 

Please read Isaiah 37:16.

 

O LORD of hosts, God of Israel, that dwells between the cherubims, YOU are the God, even you alone, of all the kingdoms of the earth: You have made heaven and earth.”

 

The pronoun “YOU” that I highlighted in blue is speaking of BOTH Yahweh of host AND the God of Israel as being TWO separate PERSONS united as God. Then the next pronoun “you” highlighted in yellow is referring to the now highly exalted Son of MAN, Jesus who was MADE Lord or God of Israel and all the kingdoms of the earth during the world yet to come. And the third pronoun “You” that I highlighted in orange is Yahweh the Father who is the creator of (ALEPH TAV Messiah Jesus) heaven and (ALEPH TAV Messiah Jesus) earth. The LITERAL translation reads “you, he” as opposed to using the pronoun “YOU”. The pronoun “you” refers back to Yahweh of host and the pronoun “he” refers back to God of Israel one dwelling the cherubims. TWO Gods working together as ONE but NOT always two Gods in eternity past. In the next verse, we can see that Yahweh is being asked to hear the prayer of the people, and also the God of Israel, Messiah Jesus, is being asked to hear the prayer of the people as well.

 

Isaiah 37:17.  

 

“Incline Your ear, O LORD, and hear; open Tour eyes, O LORD, and see: AND hear (Or and ALSO hear you) (ALEPH TAV Messiah Jesus) all the words of Sennacherib, which has sent to reproach the living God.”

 

Now, this next verse is probably the most famous verse of all that is used by both Oneness Christians and Trinitarian Christians to try and prove that Jesus IS Yahweh Himself. But again they have taken this verse OUT of its CONTEXT and they have INCORRECTLY INTERPRETED Isaiah 42:8 to mean that Yahweh would NEVER share His Glory with anyone EVER.

 

Isaiah 42:8.  

 

“I am the LORD: that is my name: and my glory will I not give to another, neither my praise to graven images.” 

 

Can you not see that the “interpretation” of this verse to mean that Yahweh will NEVER share His glory with anyone CONTRADICT the FULFILLMENT of this prophecy of Yahweh SHARING His glory in the future with His chosen servant, the Son of MAN, Jesus? So this verse should be interpreted that Yahweh will not give His glory to any OTHER person than His chosen servant whom He upholds and whom He has ANOINTED. For you see, that is what the CONTEXT of Isaiah 42:8 clearly teaches us.

 

Please read Isaiah 42:1-9.

 

“BEHOLD my SERVANT, whom I UPHOLD; my ELECT, (Or my CHOSEN one) in whom my soul delights; (To all Oneness Christians, Yahweh has a soul and Jesus has a soul) I have put my spirit upon him: he shall bring forth judgment to the Gentiles. (Yahweh COMMITTED all judgment unto the Son of man, according to John 5:22-17 and Jude 1:15)

2.  He shall not cry, nor lift up, nor cause his voice to be heard in the street. 

3.  A bruised reed shall he not break, and the smoking flax shall he not quench: he shall bring forth judgment unto truth. 

4.  He shall not fail nor be discouraged, till he has set judgment in the earth: and the isles shall wait for his law. 

5.  Thus says God the LORD, He that created the heavens, and stretched them out; He that spread forth the earth, and that which comes out of it; He that gives breath unto the people upon it, and spirit to them that walk therein: (Now we see that Yahweh changes from talking ABOUT Messiah Jesus to now talking TO Messiah Jesus to teach the Son of MAN that the Scriptures testify of him as being the Messiah prophesied to come)

6.  I the LORD have called you in righteousness, and will hold your hand, and will keep you, and give you for a covenant of the people, for a light of the Gentiles

7.  To open the blind eyes, to bring out the prisoners from the prison, and them that sit in darkness out of the prison house. 

8.  I am the LORD: (Or I am Yahweh the one who CALLED you in righteousness) that is my name: (Or I am Yahweh and THAT one whom I have called in righteousness is my NAME) and my glory will I not give to another, neither my praise to graven images. 

9.  BEHOLD, (Or pay attention and understand) the former things are come to pass, (Or the way things used to be in the PAST are coming to an END) and NEW THINGS do I declare: before they spring forth I tell you of them.”

 

And one of those NEW THINGS is Yahweh SHARING His GLORY with the SERVANT after His own heart whom Yahweh has CHOSEN to highly exalt to make His FIRSTBORN Son higher than the Kings of the earth. To this END Jesus was BORN to be made the King of Israel. Yahweh DECLARED or prophesied the END from the beginning. So read John 1:1 as PROPHECY. 

In the beginning, was the word of prophecy and the word of prophecy was TOWARD God or withing God as God plan of salvation toward a certain goal and the word of prophecy was the word “God”. The prophecy is Isaiah starts with a CHILD being BORN first. And THEN a Son is GIVEN. And then the END of the prophecy is the Son being GIVEN a NAME to be called the mighty God WHEN the government will be LAID upon his shoulders in the world to come. 

So then, the spoken word of prophecy was made flesh FIRST. Then the Son of MAN was MADE Christ or the anointed servant of Yahweh at his baptism by John the Baptist. And then the Son of MAN was GIVEN to suffer and die on the cross. And then the Son of MAN, Jesus was MADE Lord AFTER the cross to become the God of the whole earth in the world yet to come. It was AFTER the cross that Thomas CALLED Jesus by the TITLE of Lord and God. It was AFTER the cross that the Son of MAN, Jesu OBTAINED a NAME more excellent than the angels. It was AFTER the cross that Jesus JOINED Yahweh on Yahweh’s throne. Let us move on to the next Oneness and Trinitarians verse of Scripture in the Old Testament.

 

Isa 43:10,11.  

 

“You are my witnesses, says the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that you may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me, there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me. 

11.  I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me, there is no savior.”

 

Again, if you have been told over and over that the ONLY thing that this verse can mean is that Yahweh alone is the ONLY God and the ONLY Savior then it is hard to see any other interpretation of these two verses of Scripture when viewed out of their context and the rest of God’s word. BUT if that is your “interpretation” of this passage of Scripture then you must concede the Yahweh was FORMED.

So please bear with me while I show you that there is ANOTHER interpretation of these verses that does NOT make Yahweh BE a MAN which contradicts Numbers 23:19 and Hosea 11:9, I will explain verse 10 first, and then we will read some more CONTEXT.

 

Isaiah 43:10.  

 

“You are my witnesses, says the LORD, and My servant whom I have chosen: that you may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: (Remember that I said that the verb “am” is NOT in the original text. So to me, this verse is speaking of TWO separate persons where the one person was FORMED to become [A] God BY Yahweh doing the forming of Messiah Jesus to rule FOR Yahweh during the world yet to come for 1000 years. So this verse should read “That you may know and believe Me and understand I [and ALSO know, believe and understand] he”) before me there was no God FORMED, neither shall there be after me.”

 

The Hebrew word translated as “before” also means “FACE”. In other words, to the face of Yahweh, as in, to sit at the right hand of Yahweh on Yahweh’s throne the was no God FORMED to be in this high of a position, and neither will there be again. The pronoun “me” is not in the original text. Also, this verse could read Before “him” there was no God FORMED neither shall there be after “him”. 

Let us read Isaiah 43:10 in its immediate context and allow me a little freedom to explore OTHER meanings of these Hebrew words in these verses so you can see the TRUE sound biblical mean of ALL the “I AM HE” and the “I AM” verses of Scripture. For certain we know that this verse is talking about a God being FORMED and we know that Yahweh was NOT formed.

 

Please read Isaiah 43:10-15.

 

“You are my witnesses, says the LORD, and My servant whom I have chosen: that you may know and believe me, and understand that I [am] he: (And we know that the SERVANT that Yahweh chose is Jesus. So Yahweh is saying “That SERVANT that I have chosen I want you to believe ME. For you see, my servant will speak MY words, in MY name. So I not only want you to believe ME I also want you to understand and believe my SERVANT. Believe I Yahweh and believe he my servant”) before me (Or before him) there was no God FORMED, neither shall there be after me. (Or neither shall there ever be another God formed after him The Hebrew word translated as “BEFORE” also means FACE, as in, no God formed this CLOSE to me. No matter how you interpret this verse there IS a God being FORMED)

11.  I, even I, am the LORD; (Or I Yahweh and I AlSO Yahweh) and beside me, there is no savior. (Meaning I Yahweh, the FIRST Yahweh am the CREATOR of the LAST Yahweh, the God I FORMED for you and apart from me without me that is NO Savior. I have CHOSEN my Servant whom I have raised in righteousness to BE your Savior. Know, understand, and BELIEVE your Messiah for he will speak my words in my name. I speak, He speaks. I and he are ONE Yahweh. I Yahweh in heaven and he Yahweh on the earth. He is my Son so HONOR him EVEN as you honor ME)

12.  I have declared, and have saved, (Or and I have SAVED BY way OF what I have DECLARED to come to pass) and I have shown, when there was no strange god among you: (Or I have declared and shown you in my word of prophecy BEFORE there was not yet a strange God among you whom I have FORMED from the womb) THEREFORE, you are my witnesses, says the LORD, that I am God. (Or I Yahweh am that strange God that I FORMED by performing my own word of PROPHECY. Here him because you desired a King that you could see. Obey him for he is my servant whom I have EXALTED to be your King and your God)

13.  Yea, before the day was I am he; (Or before the day became that I FORMED you a visible God, I was alone, and now I command you to hear him. I am the FIRST Yahweh who had in my mind and plan BEFORE the day was to FORM the LAST Yahweh, a MAN whom I would highly exalt to rule FOR me in MY NAME for 1000 years. Behold your God that I FORMED from the womb of the Virgin Mary) and there is none that can deliver out of My hand: I will work, and who shall let IT? (Speaking of the WORKMANSHIP of Yahweh the ONLY TRUE God who ALONE is the Father, the ONE God in ONE person who exalts and SETS the ones He chooses to be Gods under and subject to Him. Figuratively, Jesus is the hand of Yahweh. Jesus is pictured as the “instrument” in God’s hand. Jesus is Yahweh’s sword and new threshing instrument to cut down evil)

14.  Thus says the LORD, your redeemer, the Holy One of Israel; For your sake, I have sent to Babylon, and have brought down all their nobles, and the Chaldeans, whose cry is in the ships. (Or Thus says Yahweh, For your SAKE I have sent your redeemer, the Holy One of Israel to Babylon [And through My hand, Jesus, I] have brought down all their nobles and the Chaldeans whose cry is in the ships)

15.  I am the LORD, your Holy One, the creator of Israel, your King.”

 

Or I am Yahweh the CREATOR of your Holy one, ISRAEL your King. Remember that I said that the name “Israel” means one who RULES AS God? Here is how E-Sword defines the name “Israel”.

 

H3478

יִשְׂרָאֵל

yiśrâ'êl

yis-raw-ale'

From H8280 and H410; he will rule as God; Jisrael, a symbolical name of Jacob; also (typically) of his posterity: - Israel.

 

So both the name Israel and the name Jacob mean “He will RULE AS God”. There are two verses in the Bible where God changed Jacob’s name to Israel to no more be called Jacob. And both of those verses are what I call the ALEPH and TAV verses. The Aleph and Tav are the first and the last letters of the Hebrew alphabet. Jesus said that he is the FIRST and the LAST. Could have Jesus been referring to the untranslated Aleph and Tav as TESTIFYING of him since Jesus also said that the Scripture testifies of him? I believe that this is one of the meanings of Jesus saying “I and the FIRST and the LAST”. The Aleph and the Tav are found together by themselves some 7,000 times in the Bible and they are rarely translated. And many times you can simply translate the Aleph and the Tav as Messiah, Jesus, because you can clearly see that the verse is a type or a figure pointing to Jesus. Let us go ahead and read the verse in Genesis 35:9-12 where God changes the name of Jacob to Israel.

 

Genesis 35:9-12.

 

“And God appeared unto Jacob again, when he came out of Padanaram and blessed him. 

10. And God said unto him, Your name is Jacob: Your name shall not be called any more Jacob, but Israel shall be your name: and He called (ALEPH TAV or Messiah, Jesus) his name Israel. (Or He shall call his NAME He shall rule AS God which is what the name Israel means) 

11.  And God said unto him, I am God Almighty: be fruitful and multiply; a nation and a company of nations shall be of you, and kings shall come out of your loins; 

12.  And the land which I gave Abraham and Isaac, to you (Speaking of Jacobe whom Yahweh gave a NEW NAME, Israel which means he who shall rule AS God) I will give it, and to your seed after you will I give (ALEPH TAV or Messiah, Jesus) the land.”

 

And the CONTEXT of Isaiah 43:10,11 in Isaiah 43:1 says that God NAMED His SERVANT Israel. Read the Old testament as BOTH the history and as PROPHECY. There are many types, shadows, and figures in the Old Testament “history” that point prophetically to Messiah Jesus in the future.

 

Please read Isaiah 43:1,18,19.

 

 “1. But now thus says the LORD that created you, O Jacob, and He that FORMED you, O Israel, (Prophetically speaking, Jacob represents Yahweh first begetting Himself a HUMAN Son and then Yahweh MADE or FORMED His human Son to be ISRAEL, he who shall RULE AS God in the world yet to come. Remember that Jesus is reading the Scripture as testifying of him. So Yahweh is speaking TO His Messiah Jesus through the Scriptures saying) Fear not: for I have redeemed you, I have called you by your name; (Or by your NEW NAME, Israel who will rule as God for me as the God of Israel) you are mine... 

 ...18. Remember you NOT the former things, neither consider the things of old

19.  BEHOLD, I will do a NEW THING; now it shall spring forth; shall ye not know it? I will even make a WAY in the wilderness, and rivers in the desert.”

 

Jesus is the WAY that Yahweh made. Jesus is the Lamb that Yahweh provided. Jesus is the NAME that Yahweh gave to be saved. When you understand the bigger picture that ONE-THIRD of the ELOHIM is NO FURTHER Elohim Gods WITH Yahweh because they rebelled AGAINST Yahweh then you can see OTHER meanings of these Old Testament verses of Scripture. Again, I am skipping over the “I AM HE” verses because I have already covered them in the studies THE 'I AM HE' VERSES OF THE OLD TESTAMENT” and “THE 'I AM HE' VERSES OF THE NEW TESTAMENT!” 

 

Isaiah 44:8.  

 

“Fear you not, neither be afraid: have not I told you from that time, and have declared it? You are even my witnesses. Is there a God beside me? Yea, there is no God; I know not any.” 

 

To me, the translator incorrectly added the word “yea” and the whole last phrase is a question and NOT as questions AND and answer. The subject matter is about NOT being afraid to TRUST Jesus as their God which they asked for. Here is my own paraphrase translation of Isaiah 44:8.

 

 

My own paraphrase translation of Isaiah 44:8.

 

“Fear you not, neither be afraid: have not I told you from that time, and have declared it? You are even my witnesses. Is there a DEITY APART FROM me [is there] no ROCK that I do not KNOW?” 

 

And the obvious answer is NO, so do not FEAR to obey my Messiah Jesus. In the verses that follow, Yahweh goes on to talk about how foolish man-made idol gods are before He introduces the REAL God that He Himself FORMED from the WOMB speaking of Jesus. Let us skip down to Isaiah 44:24.

 

Isaiah 44:24.

 

“Thus says the LORD, your redeemer, and He that formed you from the womb, I am the LORD that makes all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens ALONE; that spreadeth abroad the earth BY MYSELF;” 

 

And we know that Jesus was FORMED from the WOMB of the Virgin Mary. As we continue reading in verse 26, the context of verse 24, we can see that Yahweh CONFIRMS the word of His “servant” speaking of Jesus and that Yahweh PERFORMS the council of His messengers speaking of the saints in Jesus Christ. And in verse 28, Yahweh calls His servant Cyrus His SHEPHERD. In the next chapter of Isaiah, we can see even more so that King Cyrus is a type or figure of Jesus. But before we read Isaiah chapter 45 let us read the five famous Oneness and Trinitarians verses of Scripture out of their context first.

 

Isaiah 45:5.

 

“I am the LORD, and there is none else, there is no God beside me: I girded you, though you have not known me:”

 

Isaiah 45: 6.

 

“That they may know from the rising of the sun, and from the west, that there is none beside me. I am the LORD, and there is none else.” 

 

Isaiah 45:18.

 

“For thus says the LORD that created the heavens; God himself that formed the earth and made it; he hath established it, he created it not in vain, he formed it to be inhabited: I am the LORD, and there is none else.”

 

Isaiah 45:21.

 

“Tell you, and bring them near; yea, let them take counsel together: who has declared this from ancient time? Who has told it from that time? have not I the LORD? and there is no God else beside me; a just God and a Savior; there is none beside me.” 

 

Isaiah 45:22.

 

“Look unto me, and be you saved, all the ends of the earth: for I am God, and there is none else.”

 

 

Again, when you read these verses out of their context and you are told over and over that they mean that is no other God but ONE God. Therefore Jesus MUST BE the ONE God of the Old Testament then it can be hard to see any other meaning to all the “NO God BESIDE ME” verses of Scripture in the Old Testament. But when you read the CONTEXT we can clearly see that there IS another God, as in, there is another God being PROPHESIED to come into being. And there are also Elohim Gods that are no longer UPRIGHT Gods speaking of Lucifer and the fallen angels. So then, let us read these five verses that are used by both Oneness Christians and Trinitarian Christians to try and FORCE Jesus to BE Yahweh Himself so that you can see that King Cyrus is a type or figure of Jesus. In the last chapter, Yahweh called King Cyrus His SHEPHERD who will perform all of Yahweh’s pleasures. And we know that Jesus is called Yahweh’s shepherd as well. And in verse 1 in Isaiah chapter 45, we see King Cyrus being called Yahweh’s ANOINTED and that Yahweh will hold his right hand.

 

Isaiah chapter 45:1-25.

 

“Thus says the LORD TO His ANOINTED, to Cyrus, whose right hand I have holden, to subdue nations before him; (Here we see Yahweh talking TO His ANOINTED King Cyrus to reassures him that his God is with him which agrees with the prophecies of Jesus in Isaiah 41:13 and Isaiah 42:6) and I will loosen the loins of kings, to open before him the two leaved gates; and the gates shall not be shut; 

2.  I will go before you, and make the crooked places straight: I will break in pieces the gates of brass, and cut in sunder the bars of iron:  

3.  And I will give you the treasures of darkness, and hidden riches of secret places, (The treasures of the unjust are laid up for the just in the world to come) that you may know that I, the LORD, which call you by your name, am the God of Israel. (The verb “am” is not in the original text. The LITERAL translation reads I Yahweh, the one calling in NAME of YOU the God of Israel”. Yahweh is prophesying TO His ANOINTED Shepherd calling his NAME the God of Israel)

4.  For Jacob my servant's sake, and Israel mine elect, I have even called you by your name: I have surnamed you, though you have not known me. (To me, this verse proves that Jesus did not literally pre-exist in eternity past because Jesus did not know Yahweh. Jesus was TAUGHT the Scriptures morning by morning as the Yahweh visited him through through Holy Spirit, according to Isaiah 50:4-6 and Hebrews 2:6)

5.  I am the LORD, and there is none else, there is no God beside me: I girded thee, though you have not known me: (This verse LITERALLY means that there are NO FURTHER Elohim except me, I am girding you though you have not known me. Remember and be aware of the fact that Lucifer and ONE-THIRD of the Elohim rebelled and made war against Yahweh. So Almighty God is in the process of dethroning Satan and PROMOTING another to take the palace of Lucifer as the God of the whole earth)

6.  That they may know (Speaking of the fallen Elohim) from the rising of the sun, and from the west, that there is none beside me. I am the LORD, and there is none else. (The phrase “none beside me” means that there will be no God APART FROM and without Yahweh and therefore the fallen Elohim will be NO FURTHER)

7.  I form the light, and create darkness: (Or more precisely, I Yahweh FORM the LIGHT Speaking of Messiah Jesus and I Yahweh CUT DOWN darkness speaking of Lucifer and the fallen angels) I make peace, and create evil: (Or I Yahweh make PEACE or I bring WAR to an END for all eternity future And I Yahweh CUT DOWN and destroy EVIL for all eternity) I the LORD do all these things. 

8.  Drop down, you heavens, from above, and let the skies pour down righteousness: (Speaking of the second coming of Jesus which all his saints and his army of angels to execute the WRATH of Yahweh) let the earth open, and let them bring forth salvation, and let righteousness spring up together; I the LORD have created it. (Yahweh begat, formed and created Jesus FROM the womb to be the salvation of whosoever believes in the Son of the living God as the atonement for their sins)

9.  Woe unto him that strives with his Maker! Let the potsherd strive with the potsherds of the earth. Shall the clay say to him that fashions it, What make you? Or your work, He has no hands? (Remember the prophecy in Jeremiah 1:5,6 saying I can not speak I am just a CHILD and Yahweh says do not say you are a child, I am sending you and you are to speak the words that I will instruct you to speak. I believe that Yahweh is speaking TO His shepherd Jesus in these verses when Jesus was a child)

10.  Woe unto him that says unto his father, What beget you? Or to the woman, What have you brought forth? (I can see Jesus as a child when he first found out the Joseph was not his biological father and Yahweh is comforting him and at the same time teaching Jesus as a child to NOT strive with his Maker)

11.  Thus says the LORD, the Holy One of Israel, and his Maker, (Or thus says Yahweh [TO] the Holy One of Israel, the one making of him) Ask me of things to come concerning my sons and concerning the work of my hands command you, me. 

12.  I have made the earth, and created man upon it: (Or I Yahweh have made the earth and I have created a HUMAN upon it or I have created a MAN upon it) I, even my hands, have stretched out the heavens, and all their host have I commanded. 

13.  I have raised him up in righteousness, (Speaking of the MAN that Yahweh created upon the earth to BE the God of Israel to rule FOR Yahweh fro 1000 years in the world to come) and I will direct all his ways: he shall build my city, and he shall let go my captives, not for price nor reward, says the LORD of hosts. 

14.  Thus says the LORD, The labor of Egypt, and merchandise of Ethiopia and of the Sabeans, men of stature, shall come over unto you, and they shall be yours: they shall come after you; in chains, they shall come over, and they shall fall down unto you, they shall make supplication unto you, saying, Surely God is IN you, and there is none else, there is no God. (Or surely EL is IN YOU My Messiah Jesus whom I have SET to be God of Israel and NO FURTHER the Elohim fallen gods no more)

15.  Verily (Or TRULY) you are a God that hides yourself, O God of Israel, the Savior. (To me, this verse could be interpreted as Jesus being a HUMBLE God as opposed to Lucifer being a BOASTFUL God and Yahweh is well pleased with His workmanship of raising up a righteous God. Or the first half of the verse could be interpreted as the “invisible hidden” Yahweh and the last have  of verse 15 as being Jesus the Savior and the God of Israel that Yahweh made Lord and Savior)

16.  They (Speaking of the FALLEN Elohim, Lucifer, and the fallen angels) shall be ashamed, and also confounded, all of them: they shall go to confusion together that are makers of idols. (Speaking of the devils causing or deceiving humans to make idols to the devils)

17.  But Israel shall be saved IN the LORD with an everlasting salvation: (When a person is saved IN Jesus they are ALSO IN Yahweh the Father as well) you shall not be ashamed nor confounded world without end. 

18.  For thus says the LORD that created the heavens; God Himself that formed the earth and made it; He has established it, He created it not in vain, He formed it to be inhabited: I am the LORD, and there is none else. ( Yahweh is one God in ONE PERSON and Yahweh ALONE created the universe and there was no other being with Yahweh in eternity past. But to me, this verse was intended to be speaking of the RE-CREATION of the earth in view of the following verses. So again, Yahweh in one person restored the earth alone and by Himself)

19.  I have not spoken in secret, in a dark place of the earth: I said NOT unto the seed of Jacob, Seek you me in vain: I the LORD speak righteousness, I declare things that are right. 

20.  Assemble yourselves and come; draw near together, you that are escaped of the nations: they have no knowledge that set up the wood of their graven image and prays unto a god that cannot save. 

21.  Tell you, and bring them near; yea, let them take counsel together: who has declared this from ancient time? Who has told it from that time? Have not I the LORD? and there is no God else beside me; a just God and a Savior; there is none beside me. (This verse is saying that Yahweh Himself has DONE all of this. We KNOW that there IS a God beside Yahweh after the cross so this verse is saying I Yahweh have prophesied this from the foundation of the earth and APART FROM me there is no God without me. Philippians 2:8-11 teaches us that Yahweh gave Jesus a NAME and every knee will bow and every tongue confess that Jesus is Lord TO the GLORY of Almighty God Yahweh the Father)

22.  Look unto me, (Or look unto him the Savior I raised up for you) and be you saved, all the ends of the earth: for I am God, and there is none else. 

23.  I have sworn by myself, the word is gone out of my mouth in righteousness, and shall not return, That unto me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear

24.  Surely, shall one say, in the LORD have I righteousness and strength: even to him shall men come; and all that are incensed against him shall be ashamed. 

25.  In the LORD shall all the seed of Israel be justified, and shall glory.” 

 

Yahweh glorified the Son of MAN, Jesus, and in the world yet to come the NOW eternal Son of God will bring GLORY to his God and Father Yahweh. And this next verse in Isaiah 46 is about Messiah Jesus bring Yahweh GLORY but both Oneness Christians and Trinitarian Christians use Isaiah to try and force Jesus to be Yahweh Himself.

 

Isaiah 46:9-13.

 

“Remember the former things of old: (Or more precisely, be mindful of ancient times. In other words, be aware that there were ancient times before the human race was created) for I [am] God, [and there is] none else; [I am] God, [and there is] none like me, (There are a lot of added words by the translators. A word-for-word translation is “For I El or I God none else God none like me.” But the two Hebrew words translated as “none” are two completely different Hebrew words. So to me, this literally reads “For I God none further Elohim no further like me.” In other words, Yahweh is talking about Lucifer and the fallen Elohim. Let us read it all together. “Be aware of FORMER things of ancient times that I [am] God [and] no further the ELOHIM [are] no further like me”)

10.  Declaring the end from the beginning and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure: (In other words, Yahweh is making some changes from the ancient times. And that PROCESS of making changes will continue to the final Day of Judgment. Lucifer is being dethroned and another is being PROMOTED to replace him. Jesus will execute the wrath of God)

11.  Calling a ravenous bird from the east, the MAN that executes my counsel from a far country: (Or calling the Eagle from the East risen far off the earth, the MAN that executes my counsel [as in, Yahweh’s commands are his commands) yea, I have spoken it, I will also bring it to pass; I have purposed it, I will also do it. (Or what Yahweh has PROPHESIED Yahweh will PERFORM and bring it to pass)

12.  Hearken unto me, you stouthearted, (Or hearken unto me you bulled headed. The word “heart” carries the meaning of the “mind”, the way of thinking) that are far from righteousness: 

13.  I bring near My righteousness; it shall not be far off, and My salvation shall not tarry: and I will place salvation IN Zion for (Or OF, IN)  Israel (Meaning He who will RULE AS God)  my glory.”

 

Jesus is Yahweh’s GLORY. And that last verse in Isaiah to try and make Jesus be Yahweh Himself teaches us that 

 

Isaiah 48:11.  

 

“For mine own sake, even for mine own sake, will I do it: for how should my name be polluted? (Or To the END, [even] to the END for how should my name be SLAIN) [and] I will not give my glory unto another.”

 

In other words, Yahweh is saying that he will refine Israel to the end, to the end for how should His name speaking of Yahweh human Son, Jesus is SLAIN in vain? I will give my glory to no other [but my Son in whom I am well pleased].

So, in conclusion, there is but ONE TRUE Almighty creator God in ONE PERSON who NOW has His FIRSTBORN Son among MANY brethren. And Yahweh the Father has highly exalted the Son of MAN, Jesus to JOIN Him on His throne to for FOR Him in Yahweh’s NAME for 1000 years in the world yet to come. You can read the true sound Biblical means of all the “I AM HE” verses of Scriptures which include the “I AM” verses as well in the following two studies. “THE 'I AM HE' VERSES IN THE OLD TESTAMENT!” and  “THE 'I AM HE' VERSES IN THE NEW TESTAMENT!”

To me, the best way to know the ONE true God in ONE person is to know >>>WHO IS JESUS ACCORDING TO THE BIBLE?<<<

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Your brother in our Lord Jesus Christ,

Brother Mark.

 

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