A NEW LOOK AT THE 2300 DAYS IN DANIEL!




A NEW LOOK AT THE 2300 DAYS

IN DANIEL!


WHEN DO THE 2300 DAYS BEGIN?


When do the 2,300 days written by Daniel the prophet BEGIN? Like the title of this study in God's word says, this study is going to take a FRESH NEW look at the 2300 day prophecy. I am about to share something with you that some of you may have never heard before from other prophecy teachers.

Let us begin this study in God's word by reading two verses in from Isaiah so you can see how God HIDES things in his prophetic word.

Please read Isaiah 9:6,7.


For unto us a child is born,(speaking of the virgin birth of Jesus taking place first and then) unto us a son is given:(Now we all know and agree that ONLY the first part of this prophecy speaks of the FIRST coming of Jesus, which has now in our day ALREADY been fulfilled in HISTORY. And we also know and agree that the REST of this prophecy has NOT YET been fulfilled and thus it is FUTURE and will be fulfilled at the SECOND coming of Jesus) and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

7. Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will perform this.”


To say this another way, this whole prophecy here in Isaiah was ALL future at the time WHEN it was given to the prophet Isaiah, but the FIRST part of this prophecy we all agree has already been fulfilled at the FIRST coming of Jesu. However, the second part of this prophecy is still yet future. This is what some prophecy teachers call DUEL prophecy.

Now, for ME, I believe that the errors made by prophecy teachers in the past are that they went too far in ONE direction.

What I mean by this is that some prophecy teachers dogmatically teach that much of Daniel's prophecies have NOT been fulfilled and they are yet to be fulfilled in the FUTURE.

While other prophecy teachers have gone to the extreme the other way dogmatically demanding that ALL of Daniel's prophecies have ALREADY been fulfilled.


But I say, why not compromise by taking a fresh NEW and even closer look at all of the prophecy by taking a little teaching from BOTH sides of the controversy and allow SOME prophecy to be already fulfilled, BUT also leaving a yet FUTURE fulfillment in a MIRROR-like fashion.

Now, this is going to take both sides of this controversy between Preterism and Futurism to lay down their teachings on the table so some revisions can be made by taking out the errors and replacing those errors with the truth of the whole word of God. Again this means that we need to closely consider BOTH sides of this controversy between Preterism and Futurism to keep what is truth and throw out what is contrary to the rest of God's word.

And in order to do this, there is a need to understand the God has hidden things in his prophetic word which Bible scholars have labeled as being DUAL fulfillment.

Now again, what I myself mean by dual fulfillment can easily be explained by looking at Isaiah 9:6,7 which is a prophecy of the coming Messiah but yet it has TWO FULFILMENTS; one in HISTORY and one yet to be fulfilled in the FUTURE. In other words, Isaiah 9:6,7 is a prophecy of BOTH the FIRST and the SECOND comings of Jesus. ONE prophecy has hidden within it a DUAL fulfillment.

I know that prophecy can be a bit complicated for some, so I want to try and simplify God's prophetic word as much as I can without writing an entire book explaining every term used by prophecy teachers. And for some of you who have a dogmatic view of prophecy already, then at first, it may appear that I am trying to change the word to fit my own personal point of view. But if you are patient and bear with me it will all come into place and may even agree with what you already believe coming at it from a DIFFERENT approach.

So starting off this study in God's word with this different approach and then starting over with a more conventional method I want you to read just the first part of the angels revelation of Daniel's vision first and then we will focus on one verse that to ME seems out of place, and yet not out of place at the same time. You will see what I mean by this when we get to verse 10.

Please read Daniel 8:9-14.


And out of ONE of THEM came forth a little horn, which waxed exceeding great, toward the south, and toward the east, and toward the pleasant land (the pleasant land refers to the land of Israel. There has already been the first fulfillment in history, but the remains a future fulfillment in the latter END of this prophecy. It should be noted that the word “land” is not in the original text, but was added by the translators. So in truth, the word “PLEASANT” speaks more of God's PEOPLE but also includes referring to the land of Israel. I say this because God people Israel were scattered all over the earth. Also when God turned to the Gentiles, then those of us that are Gentiles who believe became a people of God as well. ).

10. And IT (speaking of one coming OUT of THEM. Later the angel tells us that the THEM was the Grecian Empire and by history, we know that the Roman Empire came out of the Grecian Empire. In other words, the little horn represents the antichrist coming out of THEM or THAT REGION of the world. Remember that the antichrist comes along with a KINGDOM. So then, the Roman kingdom was the FIRST antichrist SYSTEM and IT that kingdom which arose out of THAT REGION of the world) waxed great (or became strong), even to the host of heaven;(Keep in mind that John teaches us in the New Testament in 1 John that there are MANY antichrists come into the world. So then, this prophecy concerns ALL the antichrist kingdoms arising in THAT region of the world) and IT (the LAST antichrist kingdom) cast down some of the host and of the stars to the ground, and stamped upon them. (Now to ME, it can only be the last antichrist kingdom who fights against Jesus at his second coming. Now when you see the conjunction “and”, then this could mean two different fulfillments. In other words, some of the host is speaking of God's people being trodden under foot all through history, but in the last days, there will be a war in the heavens between the angels that are represented by the STARS. See the study “WHAT DOES THE BIBLE SAY ABOUT UFO'S?”, but for now, this LAST antichrist kingdom is the one who fights against Jesus at his second coming.)

11. Yea, he magnified himself even to the prince of the host,(Speaking of the antichrist little horn magnifying himself even to MESSIAH the Prince of the host. As I have already said, prophecy often contains TWO fulfillments; the first fulfillment in HISTORY, and then a yet FUTURE fulfillment in the last days.) and by him, the daily sacrifice was taken away (speaking of the FIRST antichrist kingdom that came before antichrist kingdom that received a womb by the sword and did live to become the LAST antichrist kingdom. Then in the last days, Satan will be cast down out of his sanctuary in the heavens down to the earth. To say this another way, the phrase “and BY HIM” is referring to ALL three antichrist kingdoms, but it was only DURING the FIRST Roman antichrist kingdom that was the one which took after the daily sacrifice. And it will be DURING the LAST antichrist kingdom when Satan is cast down out of heaven to the ground and at the very end of that kingdom Satan will be bound a thousand years), and the place of his sanctuary was cast down.

12. And a HOST (A host can and may mean that God's people were given to all three of the antichrist kingdoms, but here it seems to make more sense that the host represents an army given to the first Roman antchrist kingdom which took away the daily sacrifice. Remember that there are MANY anhtichrist even withing each of the three anitchrist kingdoms where all three kingdoms were given a HOST or an ARMY) was given him (again referring to only the FIRST antichrist kingdom, which was the Roman Empire) against the daily sacrifice by reason of transgression, and IT (the HOST of many antichrists throughout history and yet in the future) cast down the TRUTH to the ground; and it practised, and prospered.

13. Then I heard one saint speaking, and another saint said unto that certain saint which spoke, How long shall be the vision CONCERNING daily sacrifice,(Remember that there is a DUAL fulfillment in much of what Daniel has seen in his visions. So Daniel is asking the angel how long it will be before God's people are CLEANSED. That is the bottom line in which Daniel is concerned. This verse does not give us a definite BETWEEN this point in time and the end when God's people are cleansed. Now it may SEEM that verses 13and 14 here is marking a period of time beginning when the daily sacrifice is taken away to the time of the second coming of Jesus. And that is because many of us including myself have been reading into these verses that interpretation. In truth, Daniel is asking how long shall be the VISION of what the first antichrist kingdom arises to the time when the host of God's people is CLEANSED. Daniel summarizes the vision saying concerning the daily sacrifice) and the transgression of desolation, to give both the sanctuary and the host to be trodden under foot?

14. And he said unto me, Unto two thousand and three hundred days; THEN (at the time of the END) shall the sanctuary be CLEANSED.


Now let us take this same sound Biblical principle of God HIDING a dual fulfillment in his prophetic word that we just learned from Isaiah 9:67 and use it with the prophecy of Daniel. Let us not be like the many Jews who missed the FIRST coming of Jesus because to THEM Jesus did not meet ALL the prophecies at his FIRST coming. But had they correctly interpreted the scriptures understanding the HIDDEN things in God's prophetic word where with the same prophecy there were TWO fulfilments separated by many years, then they would have known that the promise Messiah was coming TWO times instead of Jesus have one coming.

With that being said let me jump right in with both feet, so to speak, and say something that some of you may have never heard before by other prophecy teachers. Not that I am a prophecy teacher, but I myself personally do not believe that God wants us to know the exact STARTING point of the 2300 days. The reason I say this is because if I am right about the hidden spiritual meaning being hidden in this prophecy where the 2300 days POINT to the TIME of the RAPTURE of the church, then the second coming of Jesus could have been calculated and KNOWN way too early in church history.

You see my dear brothers and sister in our Lord Jesus Christ, some Christians have already TRIED to pinpoint a starting date and have gotten into error by trying to set an exact date of the return of Jesus. And then, when that date they set came and went by not being fulfilled, some Christians fell away from the faith entirely, while others claimed that Jesus came spiritually or unseen and have deceived their followers to believe their false teaching.

Please do not misunderstand what I am saying. I am not saying that the 2300 days does not have an exact specific starting date, but rather I am saying that God has HIDDEN that starting date from us for a REASON. And that reason is that the TIME of the second coming of Jesus is known only to the Father until the appointed time that he desires to reveal to us our Lord's coming by our watching the SIGNS that he told us to watch for so that we would know that our redemption draws NEAR.

Now I do believe that a general SPAN of time can be determined as the starting date of the 2300 days if we make some assumptions based upon some other things we know or think that we know. If you are interested in the APPROXIMATE starting date, then keep reading.

Basically I am going to start over this study and take a more conventional approach but still hold to the hidden DUEL fulfillments as well.

In other words, I am going to interpret the 2300 days as 2300 YEARS as some Christians have done in the past. But I am going to count BACKWARD from some dates or more specifically from some YEARS that some Christians are SPECULATING to be the YEAR that Jesus will return. To say this another way, this present year that I am writing this study is 2017 and we know that Jesus has not already returned if you as a Christians are ready this study.

So then, we will use the year 2017 as the EARLIEST possible year of our Lord's coming seeing that it is only the 1st of June right now. As far as the latest possible year it could be any year, but many Christians believe in the 7000 year plan of God so we will add 2000 years to the latest possible year of the crucifixion of Jesus being 34 AD, which gives us the year 2034 being the latest possible year of the second coming of Jesus.


Now with that being said let us begin this second portion of this study in God's word by reading the entire chapter of Daniel chapter 8 first and then we will break it down into smaller sections. During this first reading I will emphasize some things and give a few comments by some of the verses like always and then we will piece them all together.

Daniel 8:1-27.


In the third year of the reign of king Belshazzar a vision appeared unto me, even unto me Daniel, after that which appeared unto me at the first. (this tells us that Daniel had more than just one vision. And this is what Daniel specifies to the angel the VISION CONCERNING the daily sacrifice and everything else in this same vision to the time the sanctuary is CLEANSED.)

2. And I saw in a vision (Daniel is going to relate the whole vision or perhaps visions. I say visions because all of Daniels visions are connected. In Daniel chapter 2 God gave to Daniel in a night vision the dream and the interpretation of the dream that God gave to king Nebuchadnezzar. Now we are not specifically told, but Daniel may have received this vision in chapter 8 in two parts. Or Daniel is contemplating this vision in two parts already understanding the rising of other kingdoms in the future. You will see what I mean by this as we continue.); and it came to pass, when I saw, that I was at Shushan in the palace, which is in the province of Elam; and I saw in a vision, and I was by the river of Ulai.

3. Then I lifted up my eyes, and saw, and, behold, there stood before the river a ram which had two horns: and the two horns were high; but one was higher than the other, and the higher came up last.

4. I saw the ram pushing westward, and northward, and southward; so that no beasts might stand before him, neither was there any that could deliver out of his hand; but he did according to his will, and became great.

5. And as I was considering, behold, an he-goat came from the west on the face of the whole earth (the whole earth is speaking of the whole land or the whole of that particular region of the earth and not the entire earth), and touched not the ground: and the goat had a notable horn between his eyes.

6. And he came to the ram that had two horns, which I had seen standing before the river, and ran unto him in the fury of his power.

7. And I saw him come close unto the ram, and he was moved with choler against him, and smote the ram, and brake his two horns: and there was no power in the ram to stand before him, but he cast him down to the ground, and stamped upon him: and there was none that could deliver the ram out of his hand.

8. Therefore the he-goat waxed very great: and when he was strong, the great horn was broken; and for it came up four notable ones toward the four winds of heaven.

9. And out of ONE of THEM came forth a little horn, which waxed exceeding great, toward the south, and toward the east, and toward the pleasant land (the pleasant land refers to the land of Israel in the latter END of this prophecy, but also has a deeper spiritual meaning referring to God's PEOPLE).

10. And IT (the FIRST kingdom AND the TWO remaining kingdoms that will follow the Roman kingdom) waxed great, even to the host of heaven; and IT cast down some of the host and of the stars to the ground, and stamped upon them.

11. Yea, he magnified himself even to the prince of the host,(As I have said in some of my other studies on the end times that prophecy often contain TWO fulfillments; a first fulfillment in HISTORY, and then a yet FUTURE fulfillment in the last days.) and BY HIM the daily sacrifice was taken away, and the place of his sanctuary was cast down. (Again the phrase “and BY HIM” is speaking of the FIRST antichrist kingdom being the ROMAN Empire that came before antichrist kingdom that received a womb by the sword speaking of the Islamic Muslim OTTOMAN Empire and did live to become the LAST antichrist kingdom which is presently arising to power being the revival if the Islamic Muslim Ottoman Empire. Then in the last days, Satan will be cast down out of his sanctuary in the heavens down to the earth. To say this another way, the phrase “and BY HIM” is referring to ALL three antichrist kingdoms, but it was only DURING the FIRST Roman antichrist kingdom that was the one which took after the daily sacrifice. And it will be DURING the LAST antichrist kingdom when Satan is cast down out of heaven to the ground and at the very end of that kingdom Satan will be bound a thousand years), and the place of his sanctuary was cast down.

12. And a HOST (A host can and may mean that God's people were given to all three of the antichrist kingdoms, but here it seems to make more sense that the host represents an army given to the first Roman antichrist kingdom which took away the daily sacrifice. Remember that there are MANY antichrists even withing each of the three antichrist kingdoms where all three kingdoms were given a HOST or an ARMY) was given him (again referring to only the FIRST antichrist kingdom, which was the Roman Empire) against the daily sacrifice by reason of transgression, and IT (the HOST of many antichrists throughout history and yet in the future) cast down the TRUTH to the ground; and it practised, and prospered.

13. Then I heard one saint speaking, and another saint said unto that certain saint which spoke, How long shall be the vision CONCERNING daily sacrifice,(Remember that there is a DUAL fulfillment in much of what Daniel has seen in his visions. So Daniel is asking the angel how long it will be before God's people are CLEANSED. That is the bottom line in which Daniel is concerned. This verse does not give us a definite BETWEEN this point in time and the end when God's people are cleansed. Now it may SEEM that verses 13and 14 here is marking a period of time beginning when the daily sacrifice is taken away to the time of the second coming of Jesus. And that is because many of us including myself have been reading into these verses that interpretation. In truth, Daniel is asking how long shall be the VISION of what the first antichrist kingdom arises to the time when the host of God's people is CLEANSED. Daniel summarizes the vision saying concerning the daily sacrifice) and the transgression of desolation, to give both the sanctuary and the host to be trodden under foot?

14. And he said unto me, Unto two thousand and three hundred days; THEN (at the time of the END) shall the sanctuary be CLEANSED.

15. And it came to pass, when I, even I Daniel, had seen the vision, and sought for the meaning, then, behold, there stood before me as the appearance of a man.

16. And I heard a man's voice between the banks of Ulai, which called, and said, Gabriel, make this man to understand the vision.

17. So he came near where I stood: and when he came, I was afraid, and fell upon my face: but he said unto me, Understand, O son of man: for at the time of the end shall be the vision.

18. Now as he was speaking with me, I was in a deep sleep on my face toward the ground: but he touched me, and set me upright.

19. And he said, Behold, I will make you know what shall be in the last end of the indignation: for at the time appointed the end shall be. (the angel does not show Daniel the LAST END of this vision until chapter 9 where the angel explains about the seventy weeks of God's people Israel, where the LAST END, is during the SEVENTIETH WEEK. The angel BEGINS by explaining Daniel's vision of the he-goat and ram, which we all agree has already been fulfilled in history. But what some Christians have missing is the meaning of some of the phrases the angel gave to Daniel like the phrase in verse 9 “ And out of ONE of THEM came forth a little horn”, the phrase in verse 22 “Now that being broken, whereas four stood up for it, four kingdoms shall stand up OUT OFthe nation, but not in HIS power.”, and the phrase in verse 23And IN (or WITHIN, or DURING) the LATTER time of THEIR kingdom”. All of these verses teach us that OUT OF the LAND or the region of the Grecian kingdom shall arise more kingdom, which we know from Revelation 17 to be three other kingdoms after the Grecian kingdom.)

20. The ram which you saw having two horns are the kings of Media and Persia.

21. And the rough goat is the king of Grecia: and the great horn that is between his eyes is the first king (According to history this first king of this Grecian kingdom that conquered the Medo-Persian kingdom would be Alexander the Great).

22. Now that being broken (speaking of the death of Alexander the Great bring his reign over the Grecian Empire to and end), whereas four stood up for it, four kingdoms shall stand up out of the nation, but NOT in HIS power. (Please notice that this verse says four KINGDOMS and NOT four kings over the SAME Grecian kingdom. The next phrase, and NOT in HIS power is another clue pointing to ANOTHER kingdom after the Grecian Empire that is NOT ruling IN the power of that Grecian kingdom, which is the Roman Empire. And history teaches us that it was DURING the Roman Empire that the DAILY SACRIFICE was taken away. First by Antiochus IV surname Epiphanes and then the city of Jerusalem and the temple being destroyed in 70 AD to scatter the Jews and END the daily sacrifices to this ver day.)

23. And IN (or WITHIN, or DURING) the latter time of THEIR kingdom, (again the first part of this verse has a DUEL fulfillment; one in HISTORY during the Roman Empire, and one in the latter days during the last 3 1/2 years of great tribulation. The remaining portion of this verse and the rest of this chapter 8 of Daniel seems to only fit the end of days beginning with the last 3 1/2 years of great tribulation and including the second coming of Jesus) when the transgressors are come to the full, a king of fierce countenance, and understanding dark sentences, shall stand up.

24. And his power shall be mighty, but not by his own power: and he shall destroy wonderfully, and shall prosper, and practice, and shall destroy the mighty and the holy people.

25. And through his policy also he shall cause craft to prosper in his hand; and he shall magnify himself in his heart, and by peace shall destroy many: he shall also stand up against the Prince of princes; but he shall be broken without hand. (This can only take place AT the second coming of Jesus)

26. And the vision of the evening and the morning which was told is true: wherefore shut you up the vision; for it shall be for many days. (this tells us a number of things; that the fulfilment of the vision will span many days, that the fulfillment of the vision will not be fulfilled until after many days, and that the fulfillment of part of the vision will SPAN many days AND part of the vision will not be fulfilled until AFTER many days.)

27. And I Daniel fainted, and was sick certain days; afterward, I rose up, and did the king's business; and I was astonished at the vision, but none understood it.”


Let us begin with verse 14 where the angel gives us the ANSWER to Daniel's QUESTIONS being plural.

Daniel 8:14.


And he said unto me, Unto two thousand and three hundred days; THEN (at the time of the END) shall the sanctuary be CLEANSED


Again, for ME, I believe that the errors made by prophecy teachers in the past are that they went too far in ONE direction.

What I mean by this is that some prophecy teachers dogmatically teach that much of Daniel's prophecies have NOT been fulfilled and they are yet to be fulfilled in the FUTURE.

While other prophecy teachers have gone to the extreme the other way dogmatically demanding that ALL of Daniel's prophecies have ALREADY been fulfilled.


But I say, why not compromise by taking a fresh NEW and even closer look at all of the prophecy by taking a little from BOTH sides and allow SOME prophecy to be already fulfilled, BUT also leaving a yet FUTURE fulfillment in a MIRROR-like fashion.

Now, this is going to take both sides to lay down their teachings on the table so some revisions can be made by taking out the errors and replacing those errors with the truth of the whole word of God. Again this means that we need to closely consider BOTH sides of this controversy between Preterism and Futurism to keep what is truth and throw out what is contrary to the rest of God's word.

And in order to do this, there is a need to understand the term DUAL fulfillment.

Now I know that I have already said this before, but it bears worth repeating, because some are so dogmatically set against duel fulfilments of prophecy. So again what I myself mean by dual fulfillment can be explained by looking at Isaiah 9:6,7 which is a prophecy of the coming Messiah but yet it has TWO FULFILMENTS; one in HISTORY and one yet to be fulfilled in the FUTURE. In other words, Isaiah 9:6,7 is a prophecy of BOTH the FIRST and the SECOND comings of Jesus. ONE prophecy has hidden in it a DUAL fulfillment. A duel fulfillment is NOT that the exact same thing is fulfilled twice, but rather that SOME of the prophecy is fulfilled EARLIER than the REST of the prophecy.

Isaiah 9:6,7.


For unto us a child is born,(speaking of the virgin birth of Jesus taking place first and then) unto us a son is given:(now we all know and agree that ONLY the first part of this prophecy speaks of the FIRST coming of Jesus, which has now ALREADY been fulfilled in HISTORY. And we also know and agree that the REST of this prophecy has NOT YET been fulfilled and thus it is FUTURE and will be fulfilled at the SECOND coming of Jesus) and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

7. Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will perform this.”


The whole prophecy was ALL future WHEN it was given to the prophet Isaiah, but the FIRST part of this we all agree has already been fulfilled at the FIRST coming of Jesus.

So now let us take this same sound Biblical principle of God HIDING a dual fulfillment in his prophetic word and use it with the Prophecy of Daniel.

Going back to Daniel 8:14 we see TWO things.

And he said unto me, Unto two thousand and three hundred days; THEN (at the time of the END) shall the sanctuary be cleansed”


This tells ME that the 2300 days covers a LONG span of time because will now know and understand that God's people the Jews were NOT CLEANSED in 2300 literal 24 hour DAYS. Now one could interpret this being literal days if they place the fulfillment of the 2300 days in the future during the last days. A literal 2300 days is just a little over 6 years whether they be solar days or lunar days. To ME this interpretation does not seem to fit the REST of Bible prophecy. So I myself interpret the 2300 days as 2300 YEARS.


Now let us back up a few of verses to see some more detail concerning these two things. We already know from reading the whole chapter the identity of the he-goat and the ram. The ram represents the Medo-Persian Empire and the he-goat represents Grecian Empire. The battle represents the Grecian Empire conquering the Medes and the Persians. And we know that this PART of prophecy has already been FULFILLED. But let us not forget about God hiding things in prophecy, because part of the end time prophecy will often MIRROR parts of the already fulfilled prophecy in history.

Please read Daniel 8:9-14.


And out of ONE of THEM came forth a little horn, which waxed exceeding great, toward the south, and toward the east, and toward the pleasant land (Now we know that the phrase “and out of ONE of THEM” is referring to out of one of the four kings that ruled the Grecian Empire after Alexander the Great, but God wants us to see more because the Grecian Empire is NOT the last kingdom that will be fighting against Jesus at the second coming. I pointed out earlier that verse says four KINGDOMS and NOT four kings. And I also pointed out the phrase, “and NOT in HIS power”, which teaches us TWO things. One thing is that the phrase, “And OUT OF ONE OF THEM” speaks of not being out of the Grecian empire nor out of the Roman Empire, but rather out of the LAND or region in which ONE of the four kings in the Grecian Empire ruled. We do not need to know the specifics of history yet, because this verse teaches us that he grows strong against the EAST and the SOUTH. So this narrows it down to the antichrist kingdom coming out of either the WEST or the NORTH. And we know that other prophecies identify him coming out of the kingdom of the NORTH. This is IMPORTANT because it helps us see BOTH the fulfillment in HISTORY where it was the ROMAN Empire that destroyed the city of Jerusalem and the temple in 70AD, which took away the daily sacrifices unto this present day. AND it will be a NORTHERN kingdom, as in, from THEIR kingdom or out from the same LAND or region of the world that ALL these prophesied kingdoms have ruled over. In other words, the LAST kingdom will NOT be Russia or the United States or China, but rather the LAST kingdom will cone OUT OF THEIR kingdom. Now the pleasant land refers to the land of Israel in the latter END of this prophecy, but also has a deeper spiritual meaning. That deeper meaning relates only to the verses below that have TWO MEANINGS. Not two fulfilments but two MEANINGS. You will understand what I mean by this in a moment).

10. And IT waxed great, even to the host of heaven; and IT cast down some of the host and of the stars to the ground, and stamped upon them.(the last part of this verse can only be fulfilled AT the second coming of Jesus. You see my dear brothers and sister in the Lord, when Jesus returns he will not only fight against the earthly Islamic Muslim armies that will be fighting against Israel, but he will also be fighting the fallen angels and cast them down to the ground and stamp upon them.)

11. Yea, he magnified himself even to the prince of the host,(As I have said in some of my other studies on the end times that prophecy often contains TWO fulfillments; the first fulfillment in HISTORY, and then a yet FUTURE fulfillment in the last days. We have already shown this to be a sound Biblical teaching from Isaiah 9:6,7 being a DUAL prophecy of the FIRST and SECOND coming of Jesus hidden in the one prophecy) and by him, the daily sacrifice was taken away, and the place of his sanctuary was cast down.

12. And a host was given him (the ROMAN Empire) against the daily sacrifice by reason of transgression, and IT (still yet referring to the ROMAN Empire that destroyed Jerusalem in 70AD scattering both the Jews AND the Christians) cast down the truth to the ground; and it practised, and prospered.(speaking of the persecution of the Christians under the Roman Empire)

13. Then I heard one saint speaking, and another saint said unto that certain saint which spoke, How long shall be the vision concerning the daily sacrifice, (Remember that there is a DUAL fulfillment in much of what Daniel has seen in his visions. Do not be like the JEWS who MISSED the FIRST coming of Jesus by not understanding DUAL fulfillment where God HIDES two fulfillment within one prophecy. The word “AND” following the question of How long separated the TWO fulfillments. In other words, the vision CONCERNING the daily sacrifice being taken away has already been FULFILLED in HISTORY by the ROMAN Empire destroying the city of Jerusalem and the temple) AND the transgression of desolation, to give both the sanctuary and the host to be trodden under foot? (the last part of this verse is yet future having both a literal and spiritual meaning that I will explain later at the end of this study.)

14. And he said unto me, Unto two thousand and three hundred days; THEN (at the time of the END) shall the sanctuary be cleansed”


So then, if the 2,300 DAYS is interpreted to be literal 24 hours DAYS, then we can look for something that happened in the ROMAN Empire 2,300 DAYS before the destruction of the city Jerusalem and the temple BY the Roman Empire. Now for me personally I could not find anything that it a literal 2300 days at any point in time. So I started looking for a 2300 YEAR span of time that would END at the second coming of Jesus.

Hers is what I found reading some history. The emphasis is mine.


In the year 66 AD the Jews of Judea rebelled against their Roman masters. In response, the Emperor Nero dispatched an army under the generalship of Vespasian to restore order. By the year 68, resistance in the northern part of the province had been eradicated and the Romans turned their full attention to the subjugation of Jerusalem. That same year, the Emperor Nero died by his own hand, creating a power vacuum in Rome. In the resultant chaos, Vespasian was declared Emperor and returned to the Imperial City. It fell to his son, Titus, to lead the remaining army in the assault on Jerusalem.”


Remember back to the FOUR horns and OUT of ONE of THEM rose up another. Again there are more that just one fulfillment relating to that REGION of the world where once ruled the Grecian Empire having FOUR kings in their latter end. We also read in prophecy the words, “and NOT of HIS power”. This also has many meanings.

One meaning is that the final Antichrist will be GIVEN his power by Satan and another meaning is NOT of the Grecian Empire, which points to the next kingdom being the ROMAN Empire that also had FOUR kings. Please read another quote from history.


The Flavian dynasty was a Roman imperial dynasty, which ruled the Roman Empire between 69 AD and 96 AD, encompassing the reigns of Vespasian (69–79), and his two sons Titus (79–81) and Domitian (81–96). The Flavians rose to power during the civil war of 69, known as the Year of the Four Emperors. After Galba and Otho died in quick succession, Vitellius became emperor in mid 69. His claim to the throne was quickly challenged by legions stationed in the Eastern provinces, who declared their commander Vespasian emperor in his place.”


Now ONE of the FOUR horns of the Roman empire was Vespasian who ruled in the EASTERN province of the Roman Empire. This EASTERN province of the Roman Empire is also the SAME region of the world called THEIR kingdom in Daniel 8:23 which is speaking of the final Antichrist and his kingdom. So then, the eastern province is also identified as coming out of THEM or THEIR kingdom in the latter days. Here is a quote from history showing us that this eastern province or the Byzantine Empire that was once ruled by one of the FOUR horns was conquered by the Islamic Muslim OTTOMAN Empire to become the SEVENTH kingdom in that region of the world.


The Byzantine Empire, also referred to as the Roman Empire, was the continuation of the Roman Empire in the East during Late Antiquity and the Middle Ages, when its capital city was Constantinople (modern-day Istanbul, which had been founded as Byzantium). It survived the fragmentation and fall of the Western Roman Empire in the 5th century AD and continued to exist for an additional thousand years until it fell to the Ottoman Turks in 1453."


So then, we know from history that the city of Jerusalem and the temple was destroyed in 70AD by the Roman Empire under the reign of the FOURTH king named Vespasian, who ruled in the EASTERN part of the Roman Empire now called Modern day Turkey. Now as I have said in some of my other studies on the end times, I believe that the LAST kingdom spoken of in prophecy that will fight against Jesus at his second coming will be an Islamic Muslim kingdom ruling in the SAME geographical area of the WHOLE Roman Empire. And the SEAT of this Islamic kingdom will be Turkey. Also, the focus of their kingdom will be to convert ALL people to Islam with the threat of death.

Here is a map showing the AREA that the Roman Empire ruled over at its height.


You can see that much of Europe and part of Great Britain was controlled by the Roman Empire. The Islamic Muslims are growing in strength and number in many parts of Europe and the United Kingdom in our present day. In Revelation chapter 17 we are told that the EIGHTH and final kingdom come out from among the SEVEN. This has two meanings. The first meaning being that the eighth final Islamic Muslim kingdom will be given power over ONE FOURTH of the earth's land mass, which is the sum of the land mass ruled over by all seven previous kingdoms. For example, Egypt did not rule over the United Kingdom but they ruled over more land in northern Africa than the Roman kingdom. So the eighth kingdom will rule over all the combined land ruled over by each of the previous seven kingdoms. The second meaning is that the eight kingdom will have the same policies as the seventh Islamic Muslim Ottoman Empire. This is why I myself do not see a revival of the old Roman Empire where the whole world will be under a one world government divided into ten regions. Revelation says that the ten kings have no kingdom as yet and they only receive power as a kingdom for one hour when Satan will give them power. I personally do not believe that Isalm will ever rule the entire world. 

Please see Revelation 6:8.


And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over THE FOURTH PART of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth.”


If you remember the seed of Esau are likened to wild beasts, but they are none the less part of the seed of Abraham. In other words, not ALL of Israel is Israel because there is the seed of promise and the seed of the flesh. Jesus was talking to some JEWS in John 6, but he perceived that these Jews were of the seed of flesh and he told them that ANOTHER they would hear. I believe Jesus was prophesying of the prophet Muhammid who these Jews of the seed of Esau and Ishmael would hear rejecting Jesus as the Christ, the SON of the living God.

Please read John 5:43.


I have come in my Father's name, and you receive me NOT: if ANOTHER shall come in his own name, him you will receive.”


SOME Jews, who were a part of Israel that was not the seed of promise, rejected Jesus as their Messiah. Then when Muhammid came many years later, then some of those of the seed of FLESH of Abraham received Muhammid as their prophet. I say SOME because the who of God says WHOSOEVER will believe in Jesus shall be saved. There are many Muslims converting to Christianity in our time.

Getting back on track, the eighth or last earthly kingdom will rule over the land mass that ALL seven previous kingdoms combined ruled over in the region of the world. The second meaning is the eighth and last kingdom is a revival of the SEVENTH kingdom the was wounded with a sword and did live or rise to power again.

Please read Revelation 13:3


And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death (or ONE of the seven kingdoms was wound by the sword or brought to an end by war as IF it was dead); and his deadly wound was healed (or this kingdom that appeared dead, revived): and all the world wondered after the beast.”


This is speaking of all the world wondering after the REVIVED Islamic Muslim Ottoman kingdom that received a wound and appeared dead. The seventh kingdom was the Islamic Muslim Ottoman Empire. They did not have television, radio, and the Internet back then. Today it seems that the whole world is wondering what is going on with Radical Islam and terrorism? Who can make war with those that use their OWN woman and children as human shields?

Now we know that the Roman Empire did not come on the scene as a world Empire in the region of the world of the Grecian Empire instantaneously, but rather it grew in power over time. So what we are interested is WHEN did the Roman Empire become a threat to the surrounding kingdoms to start conquering the EASTERN Province, which is now modern day Turkey?

Also, we need to understand that John teaches us that there are MANY antichrists come into the world. Some preterist prophecy teachers view Antiochus Epiphanes IV who came out from among the four kings of the Grecian empire to be the antichrist, but was IN or under the Roman Empire. In other words, the Roman persecution against the Jews began much earlier than 70AD and one NOTABLE persecution of the Jews was Antiochus IV surnamed Epiphanes.

Here are some quotes from 1 Maccabees from the King James Version WITH the Apocrypha books or the books of the Bible that are not widely accepted by the mainstream church of today, but were indeed included as accepted books in early church history.


Maccabees 1:7-10

So Alexander reigned twelves years, and then died.

8. And his servants bare rule every one in his place.

9. And after his death they all put crowns upon themselves; so did their sons after them many years: and evils were multiplied in the earth.

        10. And there came out of them (this agrees with Daniel 8:9 And out of one of them came forth a little horn, which waxed exceeding great, toward the south, and toward the east, and toward the pleasant land.”) a wicked root Antiochus surnamed Epiphanes, son of Antiochus the king, who had been an hostage at Rome, and he reigned in the hundred and thirty and seventh year of the kingdom of the Greeks.”


Notice that Antiochus was the son of a previous king which tells us that this antichrist Roman kingdom actually began a little earlier. Anyway, Antiochus fits the prophecy of coming out of one of them, but he did not fulfill ALL the prophecy of the FINAL antichrist. Thus Antiochus IV surnamed Epiphanes was one of MANY antichrists. He did indeed change the LAWS of the land forbidding the Jews to keep the law of Moses.


1 Maccabees 1:41-50.


Moreover king Antiochus wrote to his whole kingdom, that all should be one people,

42. And every one should leave his laws: so all the heathen agreed according to the commandment of the king.

43. Yea, many also of the Israelites consented to his religion, and sacrificed unto idols, and profaned the sabbath.

44. For (or because) the king had sent letters by messengers unto Jerusalem and the cities of Juda that they should follow the strange laws of the land,

45. And forbid burnt offerings, and sacrifice, and drink offerings, in the temple; and that they should profane the sabbaths and festival days:

46. And pollute the sanctuary and holy people:

47. Set up altars, and groves, and chapels of idols, and sacrifice swine's flesh, and unclean beasts:

48. That they should also leave their children uncircumcised, and make their souls abominable with all manner of uncleanness and profanation:

49. To the end, they might forget the law, and change all the ordinances.

50. And whosoever would not do according to the commandment of the king, he said, he should die.”



My point is this, while Antiochus was indeed AN antichrist, who met many of the prophecies, he did NOT meet them ALL. So let us take a NEW look at the antichrist and see him as Satan ruling as the prince of the air over those KINGDOMS that came OUT OF THE nation or geographical region of the world which ALL the seven kingdoms ruled.

#1 Egypt.

#2. Assyria.

#3. Babylon.

#4. Medo-Persia.

#5. Grecian Empire.

#6. Roman Empire.

#7. Ottoman Empire. And the EIGHTH and LAST empire in THAT region of the world will come out from the seven empires having ruled over the land mass which all seven ruled over and also be a revival of the SEVENTH Islamic Muslim Ottoman empire that had a wound of a sword and did live or did revive.

So rather than looking for a particular person or king to be the antichrist let us see if we can find some significant turning point when the Roman Empire became an EMPIRE to start conquering that same region of the Grecian Empire. Once we know the antichrist kingdoms, then it will be much easier to identify the last Antichrist.

If we count the 2,300 days to be literal 24 hour days, then I myself do not find any starting period that fits any MAN or kingdom being the antichrist. Antiochus Epiphanes is the closest MAN that fits much of the description of the antichrist, but the 2,300 literal days is way too short and 2,300 years is way too long, because the YEAR that he changed the law to stop the sacrifices was around 168 BC. and would thus place the second coming of Jesus around 2133 over 100 years in the future. Here is a quote from another website giving us some historical facts. The emphasis is mine


Antiochus IV (175-164 BC), was the 8th ruler of the Seleucid empire. He gave himself the surname "Epiphanes" which means "the visible god" (that he and Jupiter were identical). He acted as though he really were Jupiter and the people called him "Epimanes" meaning "the madman". He was violently bitter against the Jews, and was determined to exterminate them and their religion. He devastated Jerusalem in 168 BC, defiled the Temple, offered a pig on its altar, erected an altar to Jupiter, prohibited Temple worship, forbade circumcision on pain of death, sold thousands of Jewish families into slavery, destroyed all copies of Scripture that could be found, and slaughtered everyone discovered in possession of such copies, and resorted to every conceivable torture to force Jews to renounce their religion. This led to the Maccabean revolt, one of the most heroic feats in history.”


So again Antiochus IV Epiphanes definite fits much of the prophecy concerning the little horn or the antichrist, but again he did NOT fulfill ALL prophecy. First of all he only TEMPORARILY stopped the sacrifices. The sacrifices were not permanently stopped until 70 AD by the Roman HOST or Roman ARMIES. Now I am going with the conclusion that the END of the 2,300 days marks the SECOND coming of Jesus.

So if we take a day representing a year and count the 2,300 days as 2,300 Solar years and we simply pick a year in our time at random like this year 2017 and count backward 2,300 years we come to 284 BC. If we use the 7000 year theory for the ages and we count 2000 years from the crucifixion we arrive at anywhere from 2030 to 2034 being the latest possible year of the return of Jesus. And if we do the same thing counting backward from 2034 we arrive at 267 BC being the latest start date of the 2300 years using SOLAR years. So then is there any significant event in the Roman Empire between 284 BC and 267 BC?

What I found was that from 280 BC to 275 BC Rome controlled the Italian Penisula. And then began its long period of conquest into the Grecian Empire.

So then, for ME, the 2,300 years began with the Roman Empire broadening its conquest of the Grecian Empire beginning around 284 BC to 280 BC and ending around 275 BC to 267 BC. Therefore to ME, there is no PRECISE starting date, which stands out to ME, that begin the 2300 years that I myself have found. But we do know that it was the Roman Empire that actually ENED the offering of sacrifices and scattered the Jews by destroying the city of Jerusalem and the temple in 70 AD, which was IN, WITHIN, or DURING the MIDST of the 70th week of Daniel. Please read the study "WHEN IS THE MIDST OF THE 70TH WEEK?" for all the verses that clearly teach us that the gospel was preached to the ONLY the JEWS FIRST and it was around 3 1/2 years after the crucifixion of Jesus that God turned to the Gentiles.

Then a few centuries later the Islamic Muslim prophet Muhammid started the religion of Islam and around 600 AD an army of Muslims rode into the city of Jerusalem where their prophet Muhammid was taken to heaven according to their faith. Over time the Muslims built a Mosque and also the shrine called the Dome of the Rock. Here is a quote from another website with a little history. Again the emphasis is mine.


The late Rabbi Shlomo Goren, a Temple Mount expert and Chief Rabbi of the IDF and later of Israel, wrote in his classic work “The Temple Mount” (Ha’Idra Rabba Publications, Jerusalem, 2005, 2nd ed., p. 327) as follows:

The Al-Aksa Mosque [at the southern end of the Mount, opposite the Dome of the Rock – HF] was built as a Muslim house of prayer outside the boundaries of the original Temple Mount, and therefore it points southward towards Mecca. And at the request of the Jews, Omar built the Dome of the Rock sanctuary to serve as a house of prayer for the Jews. This was after the Jews showed him the site where the Holy Temple had stood – and it does not point to Mecca.”

Rabbi Goren clearly delineates between the two buildings: One is in the direction of the holy Muslim city of Mecca, and is to serve as a mosque – while the other was built without regard to Mecca, and only at the guidance and request of the Jews.

Rabbi Goren did not list all of his sources, but most certainly one of them was the Byzantine historian Theophanes. In the year 635, he wrote a Greek work entitled Chronographia, an English translation of which was published in Bonn in 1839. The famed English historian Guy Le Strange cited the following relevant passage from the translation in his 1890 work History of Jerusalem Under the Moslems, p.11:

In this year [635 C.E.], Omar began to restore the Temple at Jerusalem, for the building, in truth, no longer then stood firmly founded, but had fallen to ruin. Now when Omar inquired the cause, the Jews answered saying, ‘Unless thou throw down the Cross, which stands on the Mt. of Olives, the building of the Temple will never be firmly founded.’ Thereupon Omar threw down the Cross at that place, in order that the building (of the Temple) might be made firm…”

Le Strange underlines the trustworthiness of this amazing report by emphasizing that the author, Theophanes, preceded the earliest Arab authorities on this topic by more than 50 years. He further highlights that Theophanes lived “considerably under a century and a half [after] the date of Omar’s conquest of Jerusalem.”

It is thus to be seen, based on apparently the earliest account of the building of the Dome of the Rock, that it was built not for Moslems, but for Jews, and was even supposed to be a “more firmly founded” version of the Holy Temple.


As I have said before in some of my other studies on the end times that I personal do not see a new third temple being built by the Jews on the temple mount before the second coming of Jesus to set up his kingdom. I mean it you think about it God ENDED the animal sacrifices for all time by the shed blood of his Son, Jesus. So if the Jews were to rebuild a new third temple, then that would truly be a slap in the face of Almighty God and the greatest abomination of all.

The word of God says, when you see the abomination that CAUSES DESOLATION standing, or set up in the holy place where it out not to be. The key here is something the CAUSES DESOLATION. Well, the Dome of the Rock has certainly been a point of CONTENTION between the Jews and the Muslims. And if the Jews even try to start building a new third temple either where the Dome of this Rock now sits or even beside the Dome of the Rock then a WAR will be CAUSED by such an attempt and the WAR will bring DESOLATION to the city of Jerusalem by Islamic Muslims ARMIES.

In the study I wrote on the abomination of desolation I point out that in Matthew and Mark the words when you see the abomination of desolation, the let those in Judea FLEE. But in Luke right where the word abomination of desolation SHOULD be we see the words when you see Jerusalem SURROUNDED BY ARMIES, the let those who are in Judea FLEE.

So to ME the abomination the CAUSE DESOLATION is going to be the Islamic Muslim ARMIES that will SURROUND the city of Judea at the beginning of the LAST HALF of the 7oth week of Daniel, which will start the 1260 days of great tribulation, also called JACOBS time of trouble.

Jesus also said spoken of by the prophet Daniel. And when we look to see what Daniel wrote we again see a WAR that CAUSES DESOLATION. So for ME, until we SEE and all out WAR between the Jews and the Muslim ARMIES SURROUNDING Jerusalem, then we are NOT IN the period of great tribulation. Please understand that I am not making light of terrorist attacks, but rather showing my readers that Jesus said ARMIES and not just armies but Jerusalem being SURROUNDED by armies.

Also, there will be no less than a 30 day period of CONTINUAL sorrow or persecution of both Jews and Christians in the FOURTH PART of that region of the world preceding the last 1260 days. The start of that continual sorrow and persecution marks the beginning of the 1290 days of Daniel and there may no be and obvious sign that can be clearly seen to point to an exact day. Even the starting of the last 1260 days may not be able to be pinned down to an exact starting date. But we will know that time is short. Now there may or may not be intense persecution all over the entire world. The woman is carried by two wings of and eagle and THEY feed her 1260 days. The has to be a THEY who shelters those who FLEE Judea when world war III breaks out. I personally believe that the two wings of an eagle could be referring to an airlift of the refugees in Judea to the United States where they will be feed and protect during the time of great tribulation over in that part of the world.

We also know from the three remaining FALL feast days that in all probability Jesus will return in the FALL of the years. So this means that the WAR will begin in the SPRING of the year 1260 or 3 1/2 years earlier than the second coming of Jesus.

I say this because some Christians are really stressing out over the speculation that Jesus is returning this fall on September 23, 2017. I myself was looking at this point in time five of seven to eight years ago when there was much speculation about the year 2012 being the end of the world. I had complete peace back then, because no WAR broke out in the SPRING of the year in Israel. There MUST be an ISLAMIC MUSLIM ARMY fighting against Israel BEFORE Jesus returns because he is coming again to FIGHT AGAINST those Islamic Muslim ARMIES at his COMING.

Plain and simple. If there is no war, then there is no coming of Jesus. Here is something I found interesting while doing some research on the Dome of the Rock.


The fact is that if the Jews had retained the Temple Mount in 1967 they would have built a new Temple, and it was not the time for them to do so. The Dome of the Rock IS the abomination of desolation. I do not believe the Antichrist will take his seat in a Temple, but in the Dome, because the Antichrist will be a Muslim, the one they refer to as the Mahdi, and he will take his seat in the Dome. They believe the rider of the first white horse of the apocalypse is their Mahdi. We know this person to be the antichrist.


I had heard this before and thought that it was a very good point. The “temple” can mean the BODY. We are the TEMPLE of God. The “temple” can also mean another religion's temple or SABCUARY.

So when we go back to Daniel chapter 8 and read about the SANCTUARY being CAST DOWN I am seeing that it is HIS Sanctuary that will be cast down.

Please read Daniel 8:11.


Yea, he (the leaders of ALL three antichrist kingdoms one at a time) magnified himself even to the prince of the host, and by him, the daily sacrifice was taken away, and the place of his sanctuary was cast down.”


Now AFTER the cross the BODY of the believer in God's Son became the TEMPLE of SANCTUARY of God. And all through the HISTORY of the church the antichrist system or antichrist kingdom being ruled by the prince of this present world has been TRODDEN UNDER FOOT. So to ME the temple and sanctuary do NOT speak of a new third Jewish temple that MUST be built before Jesus can return so the antichrist can sit in a JEWISH temple to blaspheme God. The temple can be a BODY or a temple of another religion and therefore it is not a must for a new third Jewish temple to be built on the temple mount and the daily animal sacrifices to be resumed before Jesus can return.

 

Please read the studies WHEN IS THE MIDST OF THE WEEK?W” and A NEW LOOK AT THE 70TH WEEK OF DANIEL! for all the verses that clearly teach us that the FIRST HALF of Daniel's seventieth week has already been fulfilled by the CHRUCH preaching the gospel to the JEWS ONLY before God turned to the Gentiles.

The GAP or the MIDST of the week BEGINS when God turned to the Gentiles and CONTINUES up to the abomination of desolation that begins the LAST HALF of the 70th week ending with the second coming of Jesus. 

Here is a timeline that will help you see that the GAP is between the first and last half of the 70th week of Daniel and not between the 69th and 70th week. The 70th week begins four days before the cross and does not end until the second coming of Jesus.

Since I could not find anyone else teaching anything even close to this interpretation that God is showing to me I had to make my own timeline in three separate drawings and put them together. There is one-half of God's wrath before the 1000 years and the last half of God's wrath at the end of the 1000 years. When God turned to the Gentiles that is when the MIDST of the 70th week of Daniel began. The church age CONTINUES right through the time of great tribulation all the way through to the second coming of Jesus. The 3 1/2 years of great tribulation is the last half of Daniel's 70th week AND the last 3 1/2 years of the church age as well.


 DANIEL'S TIMELINE


 






I have also many other studies giving many other verses that show without a doubt that the church will go through the period of great tribulation and thus there is NO PRE-tribulation rapture of the church. There IS indeed a rapture of the church, which takes place AT the SECOND coming of Jesus. Below is a link to the list of studies that I have written about the end times.

PROPHECY---THE LAST DAYS! 

Thanks for reading and may God bless you richly as you continue to seek the truth of the whole word of Almighty God.

Your brother in our Lord Jesus Christ,

Mark.


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